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Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 515	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:01:00 - [1] - Quote Yes another CaLogi QQ thread. Yes I know there are a ton of threads like this already. No I don't care. CCP Logibro wrote: Just a small update. It seems we were missing the new CPU and PG values for all the tiers of the Caldari and Amarr Logistics suits. The Dev Blog now has all the values, and I've posted them below Bumped up Amarr Logistics PG: 3 at STD (up to 36 from 33), 4 at ADV (up to 50 from 46) and 6 at PRO (up to 72 from 66) Lower Caldari Logistics CPU: 20 at STD (down to 175 from 195), 28 at ADV (down to 245 from 273) and 40 at PRO (down to 350 from 390) So before we thought it was 20 CPU and were hoping it might just apply to the standard suit. Now it's 40 CPU. That's 40 base CPU, meaning if you have 5/5 in Electronics, it's another 10 CPU and if you used CPU-increasing modules, it's even more. Oh well. EDIT: In case anyone thinks I'm making this up: Link.
Exergonic TeamPlayers EoN. 237	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:04:00 - [2] - Quote ****... The logi suit didn't need that bad of a nerf
Brolaire of Asstoria Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 31	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:06:00 - [3] - Quote My QQ senses are tingling....
DildoMcnutz The Tickle Monsters 156	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:07:00 - [4] - Quote Needed its racial bonus revised is all, what the hell is up with reducing the cpu?
Cosgar ParagonX 3072	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:10:00 - [5] - Quote This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side.
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 505	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:11:00 - [6] - Quote Wow
superjoe360x D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 24	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:16:00 - [7] - Quote Cosgar wrote: This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side. Yeah because they will only give us sidearms right. Cmon man im Amarr and they would give me a sidearm to go with my light weapon which is the defining characteristic of my suit at all levels now. Then steal my light weapon in the future and give me a stick and some pepper spray lmao. Sure man
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 698	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:16:00 - [8] - Quote Cosgar wrote: This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side. Already done, been skilled into Sidearms since early Chromosome.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood 918	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:16:00 - [9] - Quote Good... no more easy mode fitting, welcome to the same world as every other suit lol
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 1058	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:17:00 - [10] - Quote The suit's main use was full extenders and uplinks. This was incredibly CPU-heavy, especially the uplinks. The emphasis on shields means, with the lower CPU availability, you're forced to use equipment such as repair tools (Six Kin Triage Repair Tool: 48 CPU) as opposed to uplinks (All prototype variants of uplinks have equal or higher CPU costs compared to that repair tool). Furthermore, stacking extenders to MAXIMISE THAT BASE SHIELD AMOUNT of 180HP (WHICH HASN'T BEEN NERFED) is now impossible. What does that mean? You need a less CPU-intensive module that compensates. Oh wait, you have a LOW-POWERED MODULE for shields which is a blessing compared to armour users who have no such module which USES LESS CPU and scales VERY effectively with your new racial suit bonus.

Gaechti BetaMax. CRONOS. 87	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:18:00 - [11] - Quote Wait, this means they now need to fit a CPU upgrade module like everyone else, this is.. this is.. good news!!
Cosgar ParagonX 3072	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:22:00 - [12] - Quote superjoe360x wrote: Cosgar wrote: This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side. Yeah because they will only give us sidearms right. Cmon man im Amarr and they would give me a sidearm to go with my light weapon which is the defining characteristic of my suit at all levels now. Then steal my light weapon in the future and give me a stick and some pepper spray lmao. Sure man Worse things have happened, look at the breach AR.
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1376	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:23:00 - [13] - Quote \o/
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 708	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:31:00 - [14] - Quote It could be worse You could be a vehicle pilot
RedRebelCork Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 183	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:36:00 - [15] - Quote It may or may not be a nerf too far. Time will tell. The main difference to my fittings will be that I'll carry less team supporting equipment (nanohives and drop uplinks are demons for CPU), and concentrate on staying combat effective.
White Mortadela The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 42	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:38:00 - [16] - Quote The cpu nerf is there cuz of shield rechargers/energizers, so you cant fit good fits now, what's even worse is that this isnt the end, after the nerfbat to the knees , im guesing calogi is gonna get 1 to the neck
Valkyrja Randgris Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:46:00 - [17] - Quote The changes are actially bigger when we introduce the skill tree. Dropsuit Core Upgrades @ Level 5 = 5% Dropsuit Electronics/Engineering @ Level 5 = 25% Multiplier: (1.05)(1.25)= 1.3125 ~31.25% Lower Caldari Logistics CPU* 20 at STD (down to 175 from 195) = -26.25 ~ -26 28 at ADV (down to 245 from 273) = -36.75 ~ -37 40 at PRO (down to 350 from 390) = -52.5 ~ -53 Bumped up Amarr Logistics PG 3 at STD (up to 36 from 33) = +3.93 ~ +4 4 at ADV (up to 50 from 46) = +5.25 ~ +5 6 at PRO (up to 72 from 66) = +7.87 ~ +8
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 685	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:47:00 - [18] - Quote It's around 50 CPU with skills. No respec, then I'm gone. I won't be the only one. This might be the one. Next they'll nerf AR's Maybe they all want to work on World of Darkness
Rahl Draak Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:49:00 - [19] - Quote It's almost like they are designing the suit for...hmmm...support, and not frontline, shooting people in the face. That's really odd.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 701	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:50:00 - [20] - Quote Rahl Draak wrote: It's almost like they are designing the suit for...hmmm...support, and not frontline, shooting people in the face. That's really odd. IKR

Cosgar ParagonX 3079	Posted - 2013.07.23 13:03:00 - [21] - Quote So for anyone celebrating that CCP used a nerf hammer instead of a re-balancing wrench... what if they decide they prefer the hammer and continue to use it? You better be careful with what you spec into and how well you do for now on because nothing is safe from Mj+¦lnir.
Mintqueer Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2013.07.23 13:05:00 - [22] - Quote +1 to this Now I would like seeing this implemented on my beloved Minmatar Logistics and the whole Logistics class, so we can remove from our ranks the people that never wanted to do a support role.
Kekklian Noobatronic Goonfeet Top Men. 203	Posted - 2013.07.23 13:07:00 - [23] - Quote Parson Atreides wrote: Yes another CaLogi QQ thread. Yes I know there are a ton of threads like this already. No I don't care. CCP Logibro wrote: Just a small update. It seems we were missing the new CPU and PG values for all the tiers of the Caldari and Amarr Logistics suits. The Dev Blog now has all the values, and I've posted them below Bumped up Amarr Logistics PG: 3 at STD (up to 36 from 33), 4 at ADV (up to 50 from 46) and 6 at PRO (up to 72 from 66) Lower Caldari Logistics CPU: 20 at STD (down to 175 from 195), 28 at ADV (down to 245 from 273) and 40 at PRO (down to 350 from 390) So before we thought it was 20 CPU and were hoping it might just apply to the standard suit. Now it's 40 CPU. That's 40 base CPU, meaning if you have 5/5 in Electronics, it's another 10 CPU and if you used CPU-increasing modules, it's even more. Oh well. EDIT: In case anyone thinks I'm making this up: Link. AHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH Dies laughing Let the FoTM tryhard respec Q_Q flow! THE TEARS MUST FLOW
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 316	Posted - 2013.07.23 13:15:00 - [24] - Quote So.... having more slots than any other suit is just unfair, now you might have to carry around a CPU upgrade and only have 8 other free slots to fill. OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!!
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 708	Posted - 2013.07.23 13:16:00 - [25] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: It's around 50 CPU with skills. No respec, then I'm gone. I won't be the only one. This might be the one. Next they'll nerf AR's Maybe they all want to work on World of Darkness This is a FOTM player
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 871	Posted - 2013.07.23 13:29:00 - [26] - Quote Cal logis already have one more low slot than they should. Just stick a CPU extender on.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic Top Men. 169	Posted - 2013.07.23 13:30:00 - [27] - Quote I don't know why they just didn't remove a low slot, would have been much simpler.
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL EoN. 47	Posted - 2013.07.23 13:32:00 - [28] - Quote I could live with a low slot removed if they gave us an extra equipment slot (and didn't nerf the CPU).
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 99	Posted - 2013.07.23 13:35:00 - [29] - Quote I'm not going to defend the Caldari Logi suit as it was being abused more than any other dropsuit. However just adjusting the suits bonus skills would have been enough. I'm not surprised - look at the dropships STILL nothing has been done to them. No word on what could or may happen. This game...... So right now I am just stockpiling any SP I accrue.
Bendtner92 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 779	Posted - 2013.07.23 13:37:00 - [30] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: I could live with a low slot removed if they gave us an extra equipment slot (and didn't nerf the CPU). Nope. Amarr and Caldari logi are obviously made for more combat oriented logies and Gallente and Minmatar for more logi and logi only work. Giving the Caldari the fourth equipment slot would make it too versatile. It just needs a low slot removed and have it's CPU/PG stay where it is now.



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