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Mintqueer
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.07.23 13:44:00 -
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I would give a thumbs up and hopefully catching more people into the following topic
Feedback/Suggestions @Logistics Racial Dropsuits |
Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
29
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Posted - 2013.07.23 13:51:00 -
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I run a basic minmatar light frame and I do fine in it even though the light suits got smashed with that hammer in 1.2.
I don't know, maybe having some actual skill helps once in a while... |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
185
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Posted - 2013.07.23 14:01:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side.
IF they make the dumbass ******** decision to go sidearm only i am personally going into IRC and BOTG chats and spamming the **** out of the morons who advocated that change. I am frankly tired of idiot no nothings who throw random ideas out because they think they know how the logisitics class should function.
We arent PHUCKING Medics and even if we were the limited range of weapons means no chance in hell of us ever coming to the rescue of anyone because they will just be bait for us to get farmed since people will camp out of Sidearm range and wait for some dumb logi to actually try and revive someone. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
58
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Posted - 2013.07.23 14:06:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side.
I am afraid but I think you could be right :( (thank god I started to spec into a SMG scout for fun by now). I see the time where we are at chromosome levels where the only class that was needed was the Assault vk1... |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence.
87
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Posted - 2013.07.23 14:54:00 -
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bump, people need to see this. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1199
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Posted - 2013.07.23 14:59:00 -
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I hoope people realize.. this really doesn't change anything.
All it does is hurt the people who actually ran logi.
The caldari 'logiassaults' will just take off a piece of equipment.
These changes are being made by a dev that has no clue.
Should have just left it the way it was until you could fix it properly in 1.4 remnant. |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
451
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:06:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side. It's entirely possible... at least I'm not actually skilled into any light weapon yet. Might just stick with Scrambler Pistols in case the weapon slot does get downgraded. Would miss being able to occasionally run shotgun on the MinLogi though..
50 CPU, huh. Tank's gonna suffer or equipment's gonna suffer, I think for most it's going to be the latter that goes out on it's arse first. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3091
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:07:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Cosgar wrote:This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side. IF they make the dumbass ******** decision to go sidearm only i am personally going into IRC and BOTG chats and spamming the **** out of the morons who advocated that change. I am frankly tired of idiot no nothings who throw random ideas out because they think they know how the logisitics class should function. We arent PHUCKING Medics and even if we were the limited range of weapons means no chance in hell of us ever coming to the rescue of anyone because they will just be bait for us to get farmed since people will camp out of Sidearm range and wait for some dumb logi to actually try and revive someone. Going sidearm only might be what would make me quit. Funny thing is I like using the SMG on my logi suit at times, but I don't want to be restricted to it. I'm still a masshole to the core. |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
263
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:07:00 -
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I am an assault so the changes dont affect me.
The changes do strengthen the call to have some form of skill reset, or partial tree reset in this game, until CCP knows what it is doing in terms of classes and balances.
taking 50 cpu off a suit is not balancing its is fundamentally changing (whether for the better or not) |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
264
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:11:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Cosgar wrote:This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side. IF they make the dumbass ******** decision to go sidearm only i am personally going into IRC and BOTG chats and spamming the **** out of the morons who advocated that change. I am frankly tired of idiot no nothings who throw random ideas out because they think they know how the logisitics class should function. We arent PHUCKING Medics and even if we were the limited range of weapons means no chance in hell of us ever coming to the rescue of anyone because they will just be bait for us to get farmed since people will camp out of Sidearm range and wait for some dumb logi to actually try and revive someone. Going sidearm only might be what would make me quit. Funny thing is I like using the SMG on my logi suit at times, but I don't want to be restricted to it. I'm still a masshole to the core.
my alt is a minmitar logi
I didnt understand why people were saying logis should be side arm only unitl I played one - and I am startign to agree woth them. They are so OP as suit they are ridiculous. They are not support players/ suits. They do everything including assault - keep themselves and others supplied and revived etc. You can speed mod them - shotgun run them - and so on
the whole class system needs a rethink - especially the logi class |
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Heavy Breaks
Red Star. EoN.
122
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:12:00 -
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The overwhelming supply of delicious tears......
I genuinely don't think I can drink them all. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1745
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:14:00 -
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Yeh screw you Caldar Logi scrubs. You had your easy mode now you pay for that. God thanks that i wont see any Caldari Logis with over 1000 EHP. |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
1899
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:21:00 -
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Gaechti wrote:Wait, this means they now need to fit a CPU upgrade module like everyone else, this is.. this is.. good news!! I already do that. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
687
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:26:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:It's around 50 CPU with skills.
No respec, then I'm gone.
I won't be the only one.
This might be the one. Next they'll nerf AR's
Maybe they all want to work on World of Darkness This is a FOTM player
I've been a cald logi and a MD user for 8 months, but yeah thanks. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3095
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:33:00 -
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xAckie wrote:Cosgar wrote:MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Cosgar wrote:This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side. IF they make the dumbass ******** decision to go sidearm only i am personally going into IRC and BOTG chats and spamming the **** out of the morons who advocated that change. I am frankly tired of idiot no nothings who throw random ideas out because they think they know how the logisitics class should function. We arent PHUCKING Medics and even if we were the limited range of weapons means no chance in hell of us ever coming to the rescue of anyone because they will just be bait for us to get farmed since people will camp out of Sidearm range and wait for some dumb logi to actually try and revive someone. Going sidearm only might be what would make me quit. Funny thing is I like using the SMG on my logi suit at times, but I don't want to be restricted to it. I'm still a masshole to the core. my alt is a minmitar logi I didnt understand why people were saying logis should be side arm only unitl I played one - and I am startign to agree woth them. They are so OP as suit they are ridiculous. They are not support players/ suits. They do everything including assault - keep themselves and others supplied and revived etc. You can speed mod them - shotgun run them - and so on the whole class system needs a rethink - especially the logi class Minmatar logi was the original logi and aside from a shield nerf, it's been unchanged since its creation, hacking bonus included. How come nobody complained about it back then? Hell, people wanted it to get a buff. |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
265
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:39:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:xAckie wrote:Cosgar wrote:MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Cosgar wrote:This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side. IF they make the dumbass ******** decision to go sidearm only i am personally going into IRC and BOTG chats and spamming the **** out of the morons who advocated that change. I am frankly tired of idiot no nothings who throw random ideas out because they think they know how the logisitics class should function. We arent PHUCKING Medics and even if we were the limited range of weapons means no chance in hell of us ever coming to the rescue of anyone because they will just be bait for us to get farmed since people will camp out of Sidearm range and wait for some dumb logi to actually try and revive someone. Going sidearm only might be what would make me quit. Funny thing is I like using the SMG on my logi suit at times, but I don't want to be restricted to it. I'm still a masshole to the core. my alt is a minmitar logi I didnt understand why people were saying logis should be side arm only unitl I played one - and I am startign to agree woth them. They are so OP as suit they are ridiculous. They are not support players/ suits. They do everything including assault - keep themselves and others supplied and revived etc. You can speed mod them - shotgun run them - and so on the whole class system needs a rethink - especially the logi class Minmatar logi was the original logi and aside from a shield nerf, it's been unchanged since its creation, hacking bonus included. How come nobody complained about it back then? Hell, people wanted it to get a buff.
I dont know. But the class system is broke. Its not just logis that show that the class system is broke - scouts arent even viable, or have a role, in this game. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
218
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:42:00 -
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Bahhhhhaaaaaahhhhhhhh, may as well be a scout now! Welcome to the club bumblebees! |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3096
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:45:00 -
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xAckie wrote:I dont know. But the class system is broke. Its not just logis that show there the class system is broke - scouts arent even viable, or have a role, in this game. That's because every class does the same thing, just differently: Assault = Balanced slayer Heavy = Slow, tanky slayer Scout = Speedy squishy slayer Logi = Support slayer
As a logi, I'm limited to 2 things- use equipment and shoot people. We need stuff like EWAR modules to mix things up with buffs/debuffs to make indirect combat an option and better define classes. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
714
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:48:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:It's around 50 CPU with skills.
No respec, then I'm gone.
I won't be the only one.
This might be the one. Next they'll nerf AR's
Maybe they all want to work on World of Darkness This is a FOTM player I've been a cald logi and a MD user for 8 months, but yeah thanks.
Cal logi suit hasnt been around for 8months
You just jumped into it as soon as you saw the 5/4 slot layout
Yet you will rage quit after a small change
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1202
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:57:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:It's around 50 CPU with skills.
No respec, then I'm gone.
I won't be the only one.
This might be the one. Next they'll nerf AR's
Maybe they all want to work on World of Darkness This is a FOTM player I've been a cald logi and a MD user for 8 months, but yeah thanks. Cal logi suit hasnt been around for 8months You just jumped into it as soon as you saw the 5/4 slot layout Yet you will rage quit after a small change
-50 CPU and up to 90 shields reduction is a small change?
Yeah you know about as much about this game as remnant.
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xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
269
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:00:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:xAckie wrote:I dont know. But the class system is broke. Its not just logis that show there the class system is broke - scouts arent even viable, or have a role, in this game. That's because every class does the same thing, just differently: Assault = Balanced slayer Heavy = Slow, tanky slayer Scout = Speedy squishy slayer Logi = Support slayer As a logi, I'm limited to 2 things- use equipment and shoot people. We need stuff like EWAR modules to mix things up with buffs/debuffs to make indirect combat an option and better define classes.
logi isnt supporting anyone but itself. nanohive, remotes for self and injector for WP. Or it can act as a shotgun class say - fast as hell with speed and stamina modules, whilst shield tanking. No support at all
scout has no role at all - speedy and squishy isnt a role |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1203
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:03:00 -
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xAckie wrote:Cosgar wrote:xAckie wrote:I dont know. But the class system is broke. Its not just logis that show there the class system is broke - scouts arent even viable, or have a role, in this game. That's because every class does the same thing, just differently: Assault = Balanced slayer Heavy = Slow, tanky slayer Scout = Speedy squishy slayer Logi = Support slayer As a logi, I'm limited to 2 things- use equipment and shoot people. We need stuff like EWAR modules to mix things up with buffs/debuffs to make indirect combat an option and better define classes. logi isnt supporting anyone but itself. nanohive, remotes for self and injector for WP. Or it can act as a shotgun class say - fast as hell with speed and stamina modules, whilst shield tanking. No support at all scout has no role at all - speedy and squishy isnt a role
That has to do with poor class design.
And the changes in 1.3 aren't going to change it. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
416
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:14:00 -
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If anything the CPU changes will make it less of a support player because they won't be able to run high level equipment without sacrificing a lot of survivability. Which is cool since I'd rather kill red dots, Sorry blueberries no more support from me. |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
186
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:18:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Cosgar wrote:This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side. IF they make the dumbass ******** decision to go sidearm only i am personally going into IRC and BOTG chats and spamming the **** out of the morons who advocated that change. I am frankly tired of idiot no nothings who throw random ideas out because they think they know how the logisitics class should function. We arent PHUCKING Medics and even if we were the limited range of weapons means no chance in hell of us ever coming to the rescue of anyone because they will just be bait for us to get farmed since people will camp out of Sidearm range and wait for some dumb logi to actually try and revive someone. Going sidearm only might be what would make me quit. Funny thing is I like using the SMG on my logi suit at times, but I don't want to be restricted to it. I'm still a masshole to the core.
Really, ive already quit but this would be just the most laughable change ever because ive heard it from its inception, yet another product of the functional EVEtards who have no clue what they are talking about. |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
269
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:21:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:If anything the CPU changes will make it less of a support player because they won't be able to run high level equipment without sacrificing a lot of survivability. Which is cool since I'd rather kill red dots, Sorry blueberries no more support from me.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3103
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:34:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Cosgar wrote:MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Cosgar wrote:This is what happens when the squeaky wheel gets the kick. They're not even done yet either. If you're a logistics class of any race, you better skill into a sidearm just to be on the safe side. IF they make the dumbass ******** decision to go sidearm only i am personally going into IRC and BOTG chats and spamming the **** out of the morons who advocated that change. I am frankly tired of idiot no nothings who throw random ideas out because they think they know how the logisitics class should function. We arent PHUCKING Medics and even if we were the limited range of weapons means no chance in hell of us ever coming to the rescue of anyone because they will just be bait for us to get farmed since people will camp out of Sidearm range and wait for some dumb logi to actually try and revive someone. Going sidearm only might be what would make me quit. Funny thing is I like using the SMG on my logi suit at times, but I don't want to be restricted to it. I'm still a masshole to the core. Really, ive already quit but this would be just the most laughable change ever because ive heard it from its inception, yet another product of the functional EVEtards who have no clue what they are talking about. You know I'm an EVE player too right? Some of us have common sense and some FPS background since you know, FPS started on PC. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
715
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:42:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:It's around 50 CPU with skills.
No respec, then I'm gone.
I won't be the only one.
This might be the one. Next they'll nerf AR's
Maybe they all want to work on World of Darkness This is a FOTM player I've been a cald logi and a MD user for 8 months, but yeah thanks. Cal logi suit hasnt been around for 8months You just jumped into it as soon as you saw the 5/4 slot layout Yet you will rage quit after a small change -50 CPU and up to 90 shields reduction is a small change? Yeah you know about as much about this game as remnant.
As a vehicle pilot who has gone through each build with a few nerfs and no buffs
Yes its a small change |
KingBabar
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
929
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:54:00 -
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Gaechti wrote:Wait, this means they now need to fit a CPU upgrade module like everyone else, this is.. this is.. good news!!
I've always used a CPU upgrade on it, and a PG upgrade aswell for the CB fits. |
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