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Justin Tymes Raymond James Corp 235	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:38:00 - [91] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Got a good lol when he said "they just cry nerf when they can't one shot something that is designed to kill them" AV is designed to take out tanks :P To adapt one must look to other tactics to survive if your current tactics are getting you killed. Try working with infantry instead of just wanting to slaughter them. That's what tanks are designed for, they are the ultimate pushers You talk like infantry matters.. dude with swarms just has to lock on and fire... the fact that there is infantry between the tank and the AVers is irrelevant. Yes, it's not like those Infantry units are keeping you alive from enemy AV. Oh wait, I forgot you just want to solo with your tank. I don't even have a tank (200k SP or so total in vehicles), I'm speaking from AV perspective. Again those Infantry units are keeping you alive, no good AV user with swarms is going to see an Infantry squad and chose to ignore it and solo instead of following behind that squad, because he knows he's nerfed against enemy Infantry.

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 696	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:41:00 - [92] - Quote Good luck and enjoy whatever you are up to next /c

The Attorney General ZionTCD 455	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:41:00 - [93] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Then get a good squad. I'm always repping tanks, even though I get nothing out of it because I know that tank is helping us win, I'm sure plenty of good squad make a priority to protect a well-fit tank from enemy AV. So, if you choose to spec into tanks, you better always have a squad with you. Yeah, that seems reasonable. Thanks for adding a light repper while I am engaged with a squad of AV, because when they can dump out several thousand HP per second, your 100 hp is really going to help. But really, if a tank needs a squad with it, why even have the tank at all? Just bring out an assault suit and be better off.
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 197	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:48:00 - [94] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Got a good lol when he said "they just cry nerf when they can't one shot something that is designed to kill them" AV is designed to take out tanks :P To adapt one must look to other tactics to survive if your current tactics are getting you killed. Try working with infantry instead of just wanting to slaughter them. That's what tanks are designed for, they are the ultimate pushers You talk like infantry matters.. dude with swarms just has to lock on and fire... the fact that there is infantry between the tank and the AVers is irrelevant. Yes, it's not like those Infantry units are keeping you alive from enemy AV. Oh wait, I forgot you just want to solo with your tank. I don't even have a tank (200k SP or so total in vehicles), I'm speaking from AV perspective. Again those Infantry units are keeping you alive, no good AV user with swarms is going to see an Infantry squad and chose to ignore it and solo instead of following behind that squad, because he knows he's nerfed against enemy Infantry. No they arent, being on the front line with swarms is insane. If you are a good swarm user, you are a lone hunter. Using an LAV to get to points of the battlefield that give you the best view of your prey. All running with infantry will do is make sure that you are the first one that gets downed.
Aythadis Smith The Generals EoN. 81	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:51:00 - [95] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Then get a good squad. I'm always repping tanks, even though I get nothing out of it because I know that tank is helping us win, I'm sure plenty of good squad make a priority to protect a well-fit tank from enemy AV. So, if you choose to spec into tanks, you better always have a squad with you. Yeah, that seems reasonable. Thanks for adding a light repper while I am engaged with a squad of AV, because when they can dump out several thousand HP per second, your 100 hp is really going to help. But really, if a tank needs a squad with it, why even have the tank at all? Just bring out an assault suit and be better off. Tanks can't go threw door ways. I can see being in a squad with a tank. Tank leading the charge, being defensive and holding down the fort. Nah... we need more red line snipers.
Justin Tymes Raymond James Corp 237	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:54:00 - [96] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Then get a good squad. I'm always repping tanks, even though I get nothing out of it because I know that tank is helping us win, I'm sure plenty of good squad make a priority to protect a well-fit tank from enemy AV. So, if you choose to spec into tanks, you better always have a squad with you. Yeah, that seems reasonable. Thanks for adding a light repper while I am engaged with a squad of AV, because when they can dump out several thousand HP per second, your 100 hp is really going to help. But really, if a tank needs a squad with it, why even have the tank at all? Just bring out an assault suit and be better off. Yes, the tank is meant to help you win not win on its own. Just your mere presence is forcing the enemy to AV, nerfing their team against your Infantry units. Roll in the tank as a vanguard for your squad, slaughter infantry and lure in the AV users, pull back and let the Logi rep you while providing cover fire if you can for the Infantry that's slaghtering AV squad that can't defend against them.
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:34:00 - [97] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Ohh, i don't know...20 Swarm missiles hitting a tank simultaneously, and only a quarter of the shields going down.. that is not OP, right ? Are you referring to militia swarms? Because those aren't very powerful against a well-fit tank.
Svipdagr Hero Molon Labe. League of Infamy 26	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:45:00 - [98] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CoD isAIDS wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Void Echo wrote: yet you have never even skilled into tanks and you think you know everything about them... that makes no sense...but im finished arguing with you anyway... unless you didn't catch that.. Well it seems you have such a hard time keeping one alive you had to resort to using a bug to further your max game edge. Sica for life yo. LOL "using a bug." What should we do, not use vehicles until they "fix" the "bug," because while we're using vehicles we're "cheating?" You're like a child. No, I am like a person that thinks its a bit silly to quit over something that has yet to happen or may not just happen without any level of certainty or any outcome whatsoever. I mean this would be like quitting a job over a rumor you're getting fired when in fact it was a promotion. ahahhahahhahah, I have been thinking the same thing over all the complaints about the tank nerf. I still do believe however, that the information about vehicles should come out sooner rather than later.
Alpha 443-6732 Not Guilty EoN. 44	Posted - 2013.07.21 19:04:00 - [99] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Church The Sniper wrote: Again with the "shield tanks are useless" crap the ONLY time my gunnlogi becomes useless i if im frontlining and a front line rugar catches me or if the enemy team overwhelms me with AV, the latter being an issue for all pilots. Seeing your reasons for leaving and how you argue/what points you bring to the table in the tank petition thread, i say good riddance. Which brings into the question does the Op even play as a tank pilot? Hence the trolling. You are a joke, IWS.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 459	Posted - 2013.07.21 19:05:00 - [100] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Yes, the tank is meant to help you win not win on its own. Just your mere presence is forcing the enemy to AV, nerfing their team against your Infantry units. Roll in the tank as a vanguard for your squad, slaughter infantry and lure in the AV users, pull back and let the Logi rep you while providing cover fire if you can for the Infantry that's slaghtering AV squad that can't defend against them. You don't seem to understand. A player with proto packed AV grenades gives up virtually now effectiveness versus infantry, but becomes absolutely lethal to any tank within throwing range. People don't need swarms, or even forge guns. Two or three guys in a Logi Lav can roll up to any tank and pop it in less than 3 seconds. Given the current bug where you can shoot LAV drivers out very easily will get fixed, and then you are trying to stop a vehicle that WILL get through and drop off their AR armed infantry to pop the tank and then have a fight with your infantry squad, assuming they haven't run them over. In the current iteration of the game, in PC, a tank cannot go anywhere near infantry. Blaster tank, missile tank, doesn't matter. If you are close enough to be supporting your infantry, you are within AV nade range, and in a competitive match, you will get blown up very fast. Your suggestions are not even remotely applicable to how vehicles are in the game right now. They sound great, but with the current balance between AV and vehicles right now, they are simply not possible.

Zekain Kade TeamPlayers EoN. 1285	Posted - 2013.07.21 19:12:00 - [101] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I was going to post something snarky but realized you don't have access to what I have been seeing. perhaps you should stop teasing, because you're only pissing everyone off. Either you tell us what's going on, or you shut the **** up.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 465	Posted - 2013.07.21 19:16:00 - [102] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I was going to post something snarky but realized you don't have access to what I have been seeing. perhaps you should stop teasing, because you're only pissing everyone off. Either you tell us what's going on, or you shut the **** up. The resident hype man apologist that is IWS cannot stop. That is why he was chosen for the CPM. Because CCP can't produce content worthy of being excited about, so they get the fan boys to beat the drum and act as the first line of defense against criticism.
hamual jackson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 34	Posted - 2013.07.21 19:23:00 - [103] - Quote 2Bee Smith wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I was going to post something snarky but realized you don't have access to what I have been seeing. ooo, burn So snarky comments are accept, my snarky comments gets me email warnings for trolling.
hamual jackson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 34	Posted - 2013.07.21 19:27:00 - [104] - Quote sixteensixty4 wrote: dude expects to solo the WHOLE battlefield in his tank Nout wrong with my tank, still having fun in it, i think your doing it wrong Really, you must be the guy that keeps his tanks in ambush. I see you on field i will see how good that tank is......
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1105	Posted - 2013.07.21 19:53:00 - [105] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Then get a good squad. I'm always repping tanks, even though I get nothing out of it because I know that tank is helping us win, I'm sure plenty of good squad make a priority to protect a well-fit tank from enemy AV. So, if you choose to spec into tanks, you better always have a squad with you. Yeah, that seems reasonable. Thanks for adding a light repper while I am engaged with a squad of AV, because when they can dump out several thousand HP per second, your 100 hp is really going to help. But really, if a tank needs a squad with it, why even have the tank at all? Just bring out an assault suit and be better off. My 150k ISK Cal Logi suit with a GEK will always be 100x better at killing infantry than any tank that I could ever hope to bring to the field. Its also better at killing tanks than any tank I could ever hope to bring to the field. So yeah... I fail to see the point of tanks.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1105	Posted - 2013.07.21 19:57:00 - [106] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Again those Infantry units are keeping you alive, no good AV user with swarms is going to see an Infantry squad and chose to ignore it and solo instead of following behind that squad, because he knows he's nerfed against enemy Infantry. Lol the only time I have trouble killing a tank is when the other team has really good infantry. But whos doing all the work? The really good infantry... the tank is literally just there to be a distraction.
sixteensixty4 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.07.21 20:00:00 - [107] - Quote hamual jackson wrote: sixteensixty4 wrote: dude expects to solo the WHOLE battlefield in his tank Nout wrong with my tank, still having fun in it, i think your doing it wrong Really, you must be the guy that keeps his tanks in ambush. I see you on field i will see how good that tank is...... I play skirmish all the time And its not like i dont loose tanks, just very rarely to av, madrugers are my biggest nightmare, forge guns come second And when i do loose my tank to av, i "usually" feel like its my own fault, like if i've been sat in one spot for to long If in skirm all the letters are red and i cant find a pack of blues to help, then im getting the hell outa there and will get the llav out for roadkill instead as i understand the tank isnt and shouldnt be a big "i win" button and it requires a bit of teamplay to keep it alive
Sylwester Dziewiecki BetaMax. CRONOS. 116	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:29:00 - [108] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: Apathy reigns supreme in this game right now. I have 3.5mil unallocated SP because I refuse to invest in anything because it might be the next nerf target. Im one of the guys who are waiting for jets to hit and I probably wont invest in anything until they get here or I quit. I will be happy if they even announce when jets are coming in the next three months but I doubt that will even happen given CCPs superb communication skills. 1.4 or BUSTGäó And I building bunkier below me house in case Zombe-Apocalipsa. I already collect supplies to survive next two years, clean water, paper, beds.. I have even a small module that allow me to grow vegetables. Don't tell anyone but "THE END" is coming, we need to be prepare for the worst! Bury it in the garden as much canned you can!!! PS Void Echo, you will come back, because everyone comes back
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. Top Men. 840	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:42:00 - [109] - Quote I was enjoying your post until you went full dumb with that "Infantry is destroying this Game Rant", it basically became Infantry players are wrong, Vehicle pilots are right type whining at that point. If it wasn't for us Infantry, we'd be playing a game where Zitro's idea of tanking would dominate the entire game. Point is, you can't balance a game without both party's.
Zero Harpuia WarRavens League of Infamy 622	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:16:00 - [110] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Aythadis Smith wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Void Echo wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: I just have one think to say..; CoD fanboys don't play Dust 514, they play CoD. listen to the infantry whining all through the forums of nerfing this or that.... then youl see, infantry have complete control over this game.. So Infantry is CoD fanboys ? ....OR, FPS fanboys ? ... BIG difference. CoD brought in a casual play to most FPS. Where anyone with a pulse can win and feel good about it. Which in its self, not bad. The problem with that is, it does punish the hardcore. Who is right and wrong on this, is beyond this discussion. The problem is, the mentality and what it brings here. CCP ( last time I checked) wasn't a "casual" company. Casual is a Borderlands. Fun for the weekend with a few friends and some beers. Here. They are instilling that every action matters. Heck, you can't even join a legit corp with out a DNA sample. To join a team in brand X game. " can you shoot things and KDR of 2.0?" Here its like, can you obey orders? why you leave your last corp? whats your isk income? how do you budget? What is the optimal max range arc for a mass driver? That last one is a trick question, it changes every two patches.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6369	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:20:00 - [111] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: That last one is a trick question, it changes every two patches. You're expected to know for the current patch at all times. p-p
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 4182	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:23:00 - [112] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: I just have one think to say..; CoD fanboys don't play Dust 514, they play CoD. listen to the infantry whining all through the forums of nerfing this or that.... then youl see, infantry have complete control over this game.. Well we can't recall are suits
Cygnus Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 113	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:26:00 - [113] - Quote Please Cygnus Gogela wrote: I cannot recall another ally's vehicle, but if I hack an enemy vehicle I should be able to recall it and add that vehicle to my inventory. There should also be a two prong module ( -- ) that lets you recall an enemy's dropsuit and salvage if you kill him but do not blow him up to a cinder. If he can be revived I should be able to hack his armor and with that module recall some salvage. Can we do this? Who's with me? Send me your stuff OP!!!! ...and thank you.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6369	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:27:00 - [114] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Void Echo wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: I just have one think to say..; CoD fanboys don't play Dust 514, they play CoD. listen to the infantry whining all through the forums of nerfing this or that.... then youl see, infantry have complete control over this game.. Well we can't recall are suits We can't recall the clones! its too late they're out the tubes you can't put them back!
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1823	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:29:00 - [115] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I was going to post something snarky but realized you don't have access to what I have been seeing. Such a tease.
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 4185	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:35:00 - [116] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Void Echo wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: I just have one think to say..; CoD fanboys don't play Dust 514, they play CoD. listen to the infantry whining all through the forums of nerfing this or that.... then youl see, infantry have complete control over this game.. Well we can't recall are suits We can't recall the clones! its too late they're out the tubes you can't put them back! Oh I'm taking damage I will just recall my suit, Can CCP add this
Covert Clay Red Star. EoN. 54	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:01:00 - [117] - Quote OK I just read through this whole topic and another one like this. Is it just me or does Iron Wolf Saber keep hinting that he knows something good that we don't? Like maybe we will get our proto tanks back. Or there is going to be a big buff to tanks? Why would they decide to Nerf the armor repping skill now, now of all times, when tanks are at their weakest. Either CCP is trying to kill of tanks and make this game another ****** bland FPS or they have plans to buff tanks in some sort of way or another. Maybe, just maybe, the reason CCP blam hasn't said a word in 2 months is because he has been hard at work. Now I could be horribly wrong, but its still something cool to think about.
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 638	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:33:00 - [118] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I was going to post something snarky but realized you don't have access to what I have been seeing. Well IWS We do not want to see what your seeing. You see CCP as Gods. You worship faulty humans because they gave you a position of power. SO no we do not have access to seeing your false gods.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6372	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:36:00 - [119] - Quote Caeli SineDeo wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I was going to post something snarky but realized you don't have access to what I have been seeing. Well IWS We do not want to see what your seeing. You see CCP as Gods. You worship faulty humans because they gave you a position of power. SO no we do not have access to seeing your false gods. Ah but the prophecy foretold of many great things to come but come they shall in good time and patience warranted and shall be rewarded.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 491	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:49:00 - [120] - Quote CCP replaced staff making promises with IWS making even more cryptic promises. Welcome to the other side folks. IWS is now officially a puppet.



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