ThereGÇÖs a cap? If so, they should also make it possible to refund some skills.
While not a huge proponent of that at the moment, itGÇÖs because I was under the assumption that given enough time I could get the SP to invest in the skills I actually needed.

I didnGÇÖt make a test-alt, again, under the assumption that if I did some missteps with my main, the worst that would happen is that I wasted some time and SP on the road to better understand the game.
If Now it turns out that one can GÇ£breakGÇ¥ a character by doing a misstep, in a game with very thin tutorial, I hope they will implement something to alleviate that.

Currently this game has a retention problem, many have suggested that getting rid of the cap would solve the problem, however many have also suggested that in doing so you will only give a huge competitive advantage to no life players and long time vets. My solution to both these problems is to uncap players with less than 6-10 mill SP (Up to CCP to decide). It is around this SP amount that players become fully combat proficient for PC battles and are starting to move into small % upgrades and SP investments that do nothing other than provide the player with additional fitting options for slightly different situations.

Please CCP strongly consider this option as it will greatly improve new player retention, and will greatly improve competition in planetary conquest.

How would that interact with boosters though?

I don't believe this alone will fix the problem. The principle reason I see so many players leaving the game is because there is lack of content as noted by the fact that we don't have all of the racial suits out yet, there is only a few maps cycling through the matches, only four game modes (Skirmish, Ambush, Ambush OMS, and Domination), no PVE available at the moment, no functional matchmaking system in place, not all of the vehicles are in yet, Eve-Dust connection still feels disconnected, the newly-discovered invisibility glitch that everyone is abusing now, hit detection is still a problem (although slightly improved compared to 1.1), scout suits are not properly balanced yet, item trading and industry has not been implemented yet, and we don't have a training room to test out our stuff.

I bet that if at least half of these issues are addressed, then we might not need to have an uncap-until-X-million-SP feature if retaining new players is the end goal here.

Why stop at 6-12m? That will just be a token gesture once everyone has 30-40million SP in the not too distant future.

There is already a theoretical 'cap' = Reset on Jan 10 multiplied by however many week's it's been + the couple increased cap events we've had.


Just make it so that the weekly cap keeps going up, but becomes a max cap instead. So anyone underneath that cap is earning uncapped SP until they hit it.

Basically, the people who've capped out every week without fail since the reset would notice no change. But those who actually have lives and have been unable to cap for whatever reason would be able to grind as hard and as long as they want until they reach the cap for themselves.

Limiting the overall progression isn't bad, but allowing people to 'catch up' is a significant requirement of competitive play. A mechanic like we have now that not only limits everyone, but /enforces/ the gap is an insanely bad mechanic.

If a player does not buy boosters they are looking at a half a year in order to have an SP count sufficiently high enough to be an effective member of a PC team.

Business as usual. Boosters could easily mean the difference between catching up with a brand new character in weeks or months. Maybe some adjustments would be due, but IMO... Should be fine if they leave them as-is (Assuming they fix the offensive price tag)

That's actually incorrect, since people using boosters don't hit the cap faster, they just get more cap per week. To go with your proposed idea, for balance sake it would have to work under the same principle.

Sounds like a fair idea, but would create this massive sense of grinding that I thought CCP wanted to avoid.
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Business as usual. Boosters could easily mean the difference between catching up with a brand new character in weeks or months. Maybe some adjustments would be due, but IMO... Should be fine if they leave them as-is (Assuming they fix the offensive price tag)

Currently this game has a retention problem, many have suggested that getting rid of the cap would solve the problem, however many have also suggested that in doing so you will only give a huge competitive advantage to no life players and long time vets. My solution to both these problems is to uncap players with less than 6-10 mill SP (Up to CCP to decide). It is around this SP amount that players become fully combat proficient for PC battles and are starting to move into small % upgrades and SP investments that do nothing other than provide the player with additional fitting options for slightly different situations.

Please CCP strongly consider this option as it will greatly improve new player retention, and will greatly improve competition in planetary conquest.

Currently this game has a retention problem, many have suggested that getting rid of the cap would solve the problem, however many have also suggested that in doing so you will only give a huge competitive advantage to no life players and long time vets. My solution to both these problems is to uncap players with less than 6-10 mill SP (Up to CCP to decide). It is around this SP amount that players become fully combat proficient for PC battles and are starting to move into small % upgrades and SP investments that do nothing other than provide the player with additional fitting options for slightly different situations.

Please CCP strongly consider this option as it will greatly improve new player retention, and will greatly improve competition in planetary conquest.

Seeing as how PC is currently meaningless in the grand scheme of things, your point is moot.

Currently this game has a retention problem, many have suggested that getting rid of the cap would solve the problem, however many have also suggested that in doing so you will only give a huge competitive advantage to no life players and long time vets. My solution to both these problems is to uncap players with less than 6-10 mill SP (Up to CCP to decide). It is around this SP amount that players become fully combat proficient for PC battles and are starting to move into small % upgrades and SP investments that do nothing other than provide the player with additional fitting options for slightly different situations.

Please CCP strongly consider this option as it will greatly improve new player retention, and will greatly improve competition in planetary conquest.

The uncapped grind isn't so bad. It's once you hit 1k/match that it starts to become really obnoxious.

A grind with a distinct sense of tangible progress is not a bad thing. People do it all the time, look at other shooter games. People grind the hell out of CoD ranks, because they're constantly unlocking new things and moar epeen to prestige.

I don't mind all this 'bonus SP' that the booster would be giving someone until they capped out, since in this case, it /would/ be bringing someone closer to the general cap. So, maybe it would change how the boosters work overall.

The key here is removing the roadblock that enforces the gap between players of different creation ages and activity levels, and allow people to catch up, if they're willing to invest the time.

I do not agree with this. (8.5M SP)

The game is not easy for new players. That is the way it should be.

It take a fair amount of time to get decent gear. That's fine, the game is designed that way.

SP does not equal combat proficiency. SP allows you to fit better gear, it doesn't make you a better player.

I can understand the big alliances wanting more meat for the PC grinder, but I don't think that this is the way to get it.

But the whole point of the cap is to avoid forcing players to "invest the time".

Some people can accept that closed beta vets remain unreachable and would like to have a reasonable playing schedule without always being two steps behind those players of roughly the same age who are willing or able to play twice as much.

With just over 6m SP this suggestion will just mean that i'm not only worse off than the current elite but also than anyone who invests countless hours, new player or not. It defeats the purpose of the skill cap as a whole.

Sorry OP -1