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Sev Alcatraz
Bullet Cluster
286
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:37:00 -
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Well the humble Transport known as the Light attack vehicle is being used as a battering ram for the Lazy and maybe even "unskilled" FPS players
Then comes the Issue of -Nowhere to run -this can be solved in many ways, adding railings, trenches and barriers that are easily traversed by foot soldiers yet impossible to get over with wheeled vehicles
__HAV's are exempt from this as tracked vehicles can climb over and crawl over obstacles at lower speeds (and you Don't see HAV's running people down__
Damage to vehicles and Infantry if you hit a 200 LB Armor clad object that is 7 FT tall and 2 1/2 FT at the shoulders at 40 Km/H that should cause significant damage to a light vehicle
-Add Ragdoll physics, upon hitting a target there should not be an instant kill, but the target should be thrown over/to the side of or run over by the vehicle and not die, but be left significantly wounded.
Now, many people think "buff AV to ""Fix"" lavs" but you will inevitably cripple the other classes of vehicles that were previously being slaughtered across the board.
A 25% decrease In the base health to all LAV's, The state LAV's are in right now they remind me of the Canadian built Coyote LAV which has an ANti-tank gun on it and has 8 wheels.
Are LAV's too readily available? A free LAV can run down any Proto suit with it's back turned with no consequence other then the thump they make when they hit the bumper
I was in a match today and managed to just barely fight off 4 LAV's with a flaylock and AV naeds, |
The WindowLicker
Backstabbers N Cheaters Union
25
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:40:00 -
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I was thinking that CCP could add homing turtle shells and invincibility stars to combat the Karts |
da GAND
187. League of Infamy
61
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:41:00 -
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Hey this looks pretty good. |
calvin b
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
39
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Posted - 2013.07.15 04:19:00 -
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I want to kill the A**h*le on my side who keeps running over his own people. This has made me so f***ng angry. |
Slen Kaleth
XCOM ENEMY UNKNOWN
8
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Posted - 2013.07.15 04:20:00 -
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Take away the incentives, no more free LAVs and only get 25 WP for an impact kill instead of the full 50. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
557
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Posted - 2013.07.15 04:22:00 -
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All anti LAV threads will be directed at CCP Blam!, for he created them. |
Sev Alcatraz
Bullet Cluster
287
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Posted - 2013.07.15 04:36:00 -
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Blam is a babbling fool who is hiding from the problems he has created, It is easier for him to turn a blind eye then try and find a solution and keep the community happy.
If i was a Dev of Dust and looked at the forums and seen 50 threads all about the same thing i would make a public announcement asking the community how they would solve it then i would look at how I would solve it and try and meet a cross roads instead of ``lets change a whole bunch of numbers and see what happens`` |
CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
125
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:36:00 -
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I like the free LAV spam. It's basically free points since I can one shot them with my FG. |
Sgt Buttscratch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
493
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Posted - 2013.07.15 07:11:00 -
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they should make them be fords, then they'd have 50 % chance of breaking down, 20% chance spontanious combustion. and turn vehicle ram kills into assists(25wp) |
Upper Deckin
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.07.15 10:38:00 -
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-1 Play any game with vehicles , your gonna get run over . Go play a cod game if your worried about losing your proto and want to just shoot plp . |
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Sev Alcatraz
Bullet Cluster
292
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:44:00 -
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Upper Deckin wrote:-1 Play any game with vehicles , you're gonna get run over . Go play a cod game if you're worried about losing your proto and want to just shoot plp .
With the frequency of Hit and runs in dust something needs to change, when i play battlefield i am never run over, because its hard to run people over in battlefield.
Now you are probably an LAV driver and would like to keep up getting your Instant kills with the only threat to you being AV you my good sir and a low life. |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
102
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:07:00 -
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Upper Deckin wrote:-1 Play any game with vehicles , your gonna get run over . Go play a cod game if your worried about losing your proto and want to just shoot plp .
Damn, dude. You immediately strike me as someone who will defend CCP at any turn for any of their clearly broken game mechanics.
'go play cod or htfu' is the battle cry of the fanboy. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
331
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:12:00 -
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agree. LAVs need to take damage, and people hit by them should be both hurt and thrown, and perhaps have to go through a getting-up animation. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
201
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:12:00 -
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personally I think murder taxi is a viable tactic and has a viable counter measure ( AV) you don't like it then you should remove tanks as well.... that being said, CCP BLAM is a useless tool who if im not mistaken we haven't heard from since may and should at most least be removed from the head of the vehicle dept. if not fired out right for being useless and unresponsive to the community. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
664
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:23:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:agree. LAVs need to take damage, and people hit by them should be both hurt and thrown, and perhaps have to go through a getting-up animation.
IMHO, there also needs to be a getting in and getting out animation for all the vehicles. I've seen too many people running around in heavies with LAVs driving right up next to someone, hopping out, WTFPWNing them with their HMG and then speeding off.
I assume they are doing this because of the "push button->Appear in vehicle" we currently have. If they had to worry about getting all shot up while getting into and out of the vehicles, I doubt it would be so rampant.
I also agree with the idea of throwing people when hitting them with LAVs. There should eventually be a full physics suite for vehicle interactions. |
Sev Alcatraz
Bullet Cluster
293
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:25:00 -
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Blam is a fool and should be demoted to coffee makeing duty (he would probably fuk that up too) |
Eero Vesisaari
Bullet Cluster
5
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:30:00 -
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I agree with the original post here. LLAVs have become a severe detriment to what I humbly believe is the intended flow of the game. LLAVs are operating way outside their intended role, making Dust in general a negative experience for a huge portion of the player base (any infantry-only player). There sounds like a few ways it can be "fixed" or "corrected" - my only hope is CCP gives this a very hard look. For myself and several other players I usually run with, this specific issue is killing the "fun factor" and we're seeing the issue contribute greatly to players only logging on to cap out - if at all.
This vid is pretty hilarious to watch, but sadly represents what the game is becoming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCJ1ca1Ysh4 |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
572
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:33:00 -
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Slen Kaleth wrote:Take away the incentives, no more free LAVs and only get 25 WP for an impact kill instead of the full 50.
I dont care if I get no points for ramming mercs. You could give me -ve wp and ill still carry on going up to 27/0 in my chabby or limby. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War
2363
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:33:00 -
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Stopped at "humble transport"
Dropships are transports, LAVs are well... light attack vehicles. They do hit-and-run attacks and support infantry. While that was intended to be done with the turret, I guess the bumper works too. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War
2363
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:34:00 -
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Slen Kaleth wrote:Take away the incentives, no more free LAVs and only get 25 WP for an impact kill instead of the full 50. Hey look! Even less WP for non-HAV drivers! |
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Poonmunch
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
90
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:45:00 -
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I think they could do a few simple alterations to the mechanic for LAVs.
1. Make the LAVs harder to turn over once they flip. No auto flipping. Flipping should take at least 10 seconds.
2. Autokill the LAV and passengers if they drop off one of those super tall buildings.
3. More damage to LAV and passengers for driving off lower buildings.
4. More damage to LAVs and passengers of they hit immovable objects like buildings or turrets.
5. Trees and boulders.
My two cents,
Munch |
LT Dans Legs
Bullet Cluster
144
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Posted - 2013.07.15 17:37:00 -
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Or just make them not able to hurt infantry at all if they try to run them over. Of course half the player count would quit playin cuz thats the ONLY way they can kill anyone. Efin poonannies. Wait, no, they would just snipe I suppose. |
BLKDG
ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse
11
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Posted - 2013.07.15 17:44:00 -
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My forge eats lavs My av nades make you boom Teamate loves his wiki whatever missles... Spawn those lavs in Nomnomnkm |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
172
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:30:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:Well the humble Transport known as the Light attack vehicle is being used as a battering ram for the Lazy and maybe even "unskilled" FPS players
Then comes the Issue of -Nowhere to run -this can be solved in many ways, adding railings, trenches and barriers that are easily traversed by foot soldiers yet impossible to get over with wheeled vehicles
__HAV's are exempt from this as tracked vehicles can climb over and crawl over obstacles at lower speeds (and you Don't see HAV's running people down__
Damage to vehicles and Infantry if you hit a 200 LB Armor clad object that is 7 FT tall and 2 1/2 FT at the shoulders at 40 Km/H that should cause significant damage to a light vehicle
-Add Ragdoll physics, upon hitting a target there should not be an instant kill, but the target should be thrown over/to the side of or run over by the vehicle and not die, but be left significantly wounded.
Now, many people think "buff AV to ""Fix"" lavs" but you will inevitably cripple the other classes of vehicles that were previously being slaughtered across the board.
A 25% decrease In the base health to all LAV's, The state LAV's are in right now they remind me of the Canadian built Coyote LAV which has an ANti-tank gun on it and has 8 wheels.
Are LAV's too readily available? A free LAV can run down any Proto suit with it's back turned with no consequence other then the thump they make when they hit the bumper
I was in a match today and managed to just barely fight off 4 LAV's with a flaylock and AV naeds, first throw your skill out the window...this is war.....there is no skill in war.....you do whatever it takes to win.....of course all tryhard sport lovers get on this game and whine when there stupid assault rifle cant kill a lav...since your so good at this game why dont you stop whining and destroy the lav...or you can go back to cod...you wont get run over on that game....because its about fairplay and all that trash.....dust 514 and eve are all about absolute victory be any means...that includes the murder taxi....skill into av or dont play the game...im sick and tired of you infantry only whores whining about something thats is actually very weak.. if one or two guys pull out some adv swarms those lavs are finished....again get some av or get out! av nades and a flaylock pistol? of course you could barely fight them off.what idiot takes on lavs with a flaylock pistol and av nades?any guy with a brain in his head will pull out a forge gun or swarms...of course im sure your one of those guys who does not want to skill into av.....if thats the case then you deserve to get run over.... |
Sev Alcatraz
Bullet Cluster
295
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:01:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:Well the humble Transport known as the Light attack vehicle is being used as a battering ram for the Lazy and maybe even "unskilled" FPS players
Then comes the Issue of -Nowhere to run -this can be solved in many ways, adding railings, trenches and barriers that are easily traversed by foot soldiers yet impossible to get over with wheeled vehicles
__HAV's are exempt from this as tracked vehicles can climb over and crawl over obstacles at lower speeds (and you Don't see HAV's running people down__
Damage to vehicles and Infantry if you hit a 200 LB Armor clad object that is 7 FT tall and 2 1/2 FT at the shoulders at 40 Km/H that should cause significant damage to a light vehicle
-Add Ragdoll physics, upon hitting a target there should not be an instant kill, but the target should be thrown over/to the side of or run over by the vehicle and not die, but be left significantly wounded.
Now, many people think "buff AV to ""Fix"" lavs" but you will inevitably cripple the other classes of vehicles that were previously being slaughtered across the board.
A 25% decrease In the base health to all LAV's, The state LAV's are in right now they remind me of the Canadian built Coyote LAV which has an ANti-tank gun on it and has 8 wheels.
Are LAV's too readily available? A free LAV can run down any Proto suit with it's back turned with no consequence other then the thump they make when they hit the bumper
I was in a match today and managed to just barely fight off 4 LAV's with a flaylock and AV naeds, first throw your skill out the window...this is war.....there is no skill in war.....you do whatever it takes to win.....of course all try hard sport lovers get on this game and whine when there stupid assault rifle cant kill a lav...since your so good at this game why don't you stop whining and destroy the lav...or you can go back to cod...you wont get run over on that game....because its about fair play and all that trash.....dust 514 and eve are all about absolute victory be any means...that includes the murder taxi....skill into av or don't play the game...im sick and tired of you infantry only whores whining about something thats is actually very weak.. if one or two guys pull out some adv swarms those lavs are finished....again get some av or get out! av nades and a flaylock pistol? of course you could barely fight them off.what idiot takes on lavs with a flaylock pistol and av nades?any guy with a brain in his head will pull out a forge gun or swarms...of course i'm sure your one of those guys who does not want to skill into av.....if thats the case then you deserve to get run over....
I have been here a very, very long time...I have skilled into every class at least once, From the legendary E3 to chrome some i ran everything, I was around for the Rail gun instant win and carpet bombing missiles. I have seen ever il conceived piece of content in this game and i can definitely say I HAVE NEVER PLAYED COD AND NEVER WILL.
I am SPecced into AV and if you have ever gotten out of your LAV and tried to kill a Logi lav with ADV AV nades? the bastards laugh at them and sprint away.
PS. get out of your lav and use a gun you self righteous LAV driving ***** |
dazlb72
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
36
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:03:00 -
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The WindowLicker wrote:I was thinking that CCP could add homing turtle shells and invincibility stars to combat the Karts
don't forget banana skins
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
146
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:09:00 -
[27] - Quote
The WindowLicker wrote:I was thinking that CCP could add homing turtle shells and invincibility stars to combat the Karts
Ya the red ones not the crappy green ones.
But seriously this all revolves around poor map design, other games have more barriers and terrain and maps that really aren't practical for jeeps all over the place.
Other games can limit what vehicles are on which maps but since CCP cannot then good map design is a MUST. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
173
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:12:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:Well the humble Transport known as the Light attack vehicle is being used as a battering ram for the Lazy and maybe even "unskilled" FPS players
Then comes the Issue of -Nowhere to run -this can be solved in many ways, adding railings, trenches and barriers that are easily traversed by foot soldiers yet impossible to get over with wheeled vehicles
__HAV's are exempt from this as tracked vehicles can climb over and crawl over obstacles at lower speeds (and you Don't see HAV's running people down__
Damage to vehicles and Infantry if you hit a 200 LB Armor clad object that is 7 FT tall and 2 1/2 FT at the shoulders at 40 Km/H that should cause significant damage to a light vehicle
-Add Ragdoll physics, upon hitting a target there should not be an instant kill, but the target should be thrown over/to the side of or run over by the vehicle and not die, but be left significantly wounded.
Now, many people think "buff AV to ""Fix"" lavs" but you will inevitably cripple the other classes of vehicles that were previously being slaughtered across the board.
A 25% decrease In the base health to all LAV's, The state LAV's are in right now they remind me of the Canadian built Coyote LAV which has an ANti-tank gun on it and has 8 wheels.
Are LAV's too readily available? A free LAV can run down any Proto suit with it's back turned with no consequence other then the thump they make when they hit the bumper
I was in a match today and managed to just barely fight off 4 LAV's with a flaylock and AV naeds, first throw your skill out the window...this is war.....there is no skill in war.....you do whatever it takes to win.....of course all try hard sport lovers get on this game and whine when there stupid assault rifle cant kill a lav...since your so good at this game why don't you stop whining and destroy the lav...or you can go back to cod...you wont get run over on that game....because its about fair play and all that trash.....dust 514 and eve are all about absolute victory be any means...that includes the murder taxi....skill into av or don't play the game...im sick and tired of you infantry only whores whining about something thats is actually very weak.. if one or two guys pull out some adv swarms those lavs are finished....again get some av or get out! av nades and a flaylock pistol? of course you could barely fight them off.what idiot takes on lavs with a flaylock pistol and av nades?any guy with a brain in his head will pull out a forge gun or swarms...of course i'm sure your one of those guys who does not want to skill into av.....if thats the case then you deserve to get run over.... I have been here a very, very long time...I have skilled into every class at least once, From the legendary E3 to chrome some i ran everything, I was around for the Rail gun instant win and carpet bombing missiles. I have seen ever il conceived piece of content in this game and i can definitely say I HAVE NEVER PLAYED COD AND NEVER WILL. I am SPecced into AV and if you have ever gotten out of your LAV and tried to kill a Logi lav with ADV AV nades? the bastards laugh at them and sprint away. PS. get out of your lav and use a gun you self righteous LAV driving ***** I do use guns im also specced into av....i drive in lavs because its smarter than running and dancing with a freaking assault rifle.. who are you to tell me not to use a lav...I USE A LAV BECAUSE I FREAKING WANT TO....YOU WANT TO PLAY STUPID INFANTRY THATS FINE.....I WANT TO USE THE LAV.......this game is all about choice,.... you chose your infantry...i chose vehicles.....use a gun?.....HOW ABOUT YOU STOP USING YOUR GUN AND GET IN A LAV YOU SELF RIGHTEOUS INFANTRY *****. you gun only players will never be able to enjoy this game NEVER! vehicles are the future of dust not your freaking guns |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. League of Infamy
666
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:15:00 -
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At this point I say..........................make is such that the only way to kill someone with an LAV is to squish them between your vehicle and an object. Any other hits in the open against infantry will damage shields and cause the infantry to get hit into the air and then land. Remember we are in dropsuits that can be launched from FREAKIN SPACE!!! and land on a planet unharmed....its rediculous to think that a hit from an LAV would be enough to kill you after you survived a planetary drop. |
cedz636
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:22:00 -
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I think if you get hit by a murder taxi, your total HP should be taken from the LAV (or maybe just your HP in armor, since shields don't increase your merc's overall mass. So, if an LAV mows down a heavy with 400+ HP armor, it would do around that much damage to the LAV. It makes sense physically...if you hit something in your car, it's gonna do damage to your vehicle. If you hit a large object, it will do more damage than if you were to hit a smaller object. I think implementing a system like this would cut down on the people who spawn LAV's for the sole purpose of running players down, because the drivers themselves would be putting themselves at risk after a short while.
BTW, I know this theory has been brought up before, I just felt like reiterating. |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
668
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:27:00 -
[31] - Quote
Remember when lampposts were a LAVs worst nightmare?
Pepperidge Farm does.
Fake Edit: LAVs should react the same way to Heavies that they used to react to lampposts. |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
110
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:30:00 -
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LT Dans Legs wrote:Or just make them not able to hurt infantry at all if they try to run them over. Of course half the player count would quit playin cuz thats the ONLY way they can kill anyone. Efin poonannies. Wait, no, they would just snipe I suppose.
"B-b-b-b-b-buuuuuuut that would kill the realism of the game!" -The Community Which Apparently Doesn't Understand Game Balance |
echo47
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:44:00 -
[33] - Quote
I used to think LAVs were an issue unitl I speced into ADV swarm ADV AV grenades. Now I laugh at tanks and so called murder taxis. |
Cyra Celeste
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:52:00 -
[34] - Quote
What if they boosted the damage on proximity mines and made the current ones militia? They won't be able to mess with infantry, logi lav's would survive the militia ones but the free lav's would be wasted. |
RedRebelCork
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
138
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:01:00 -
[35] - Quote
Remove shields for miliatia LAVs.
They will accrue damage that won't repair itself and Swarms/AV nades will hurt them more. Won't solve the problem immediately but should go some way towards it. Also, damage to armour/hull should result in a speed reduction. |
Shadowswipe
WarRavens League of Infamy
168
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:40:00 -
[36] - Quote
The WindowLicker wrote:I was thinking that CCP could add homing turtle shells and invincibility stars to combat the Karts Post again so I can give you another like!
I <3 Mario Kart for life. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. League of Infamy
666
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:55:00 -
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echo47 wrote:I used to think LAVs were an issue unitl I speced into ADV swarm ADV AV grenades. Now I laugh at tanks and so called murder taxis.
LOL LLAVs will laugh off your swarms and AV nades. It takes 4-5 proto AV nades to kill a single LLAV....properly built LLAV that is.
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers EoN.
196
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:14:00 -
[38] - Quote
Nerf movement speed or equal damage to car (Ignoring damage resistance) as it does to mercs.
The damage resistance is also a problem... way too much. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
749
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:20:00 -
[39] - Quote
Sev Alcatraz wrote:[quote=Soldiersaint][quote=Sev Alcatraz] PS. get out of your lav and use a gun you self righteous LAV driving *****
let me lock my doors and gungame in an area that 3 LAVs will not instantly sandwich me and i'll consider leaving my LLAV |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1334
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:23:00 -
[40] - Quote
CCP have said they don't want to get rid of roadkilling just balance the risk vs. reward.
I think LAVs should take damage from roadkilling people. The amount of damage would be determined by how fast the LAV was going and how much HP the dropsuit had. Also hitting heavies should stop the LAV. |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1334
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:24:00 -
[41] - Quote
semperfi1999 wrote:echo47 wrote:I used to think LAVs were an issue unitl I speced into ADV swarm ADV AV grenades. Now I laugh at tanks and so called murder taxis. LOL LLAVs will laugh off your swarms and AV nades. It takes 4-5 proto AV nades to kill a single LLAV....properly built LLAV that is. Try to go against my proto swarms with prof 5 and 3 complex damage mods . |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
749
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:26:00 -
[42] - Quote
good because the game would look even stupider if LAV just pushes redberry around map without doing damage to him. there's much better ways to do this than nerf sht.. like fix the maps FFS so ppl can gungame in the base that surrounds a point, have the fkn concept of a roadblock in the future? |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
749
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:28:00 -
[43] - Quote
Kane Fyea wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:echo47 wrote:I used to think LAVs were an issue unitl I speced into ADV swarm ADV AV grenades. Now I laugh at tanks and so called murder taxis. LOL LLAVs will laugh off your swarms and AV nades. It takes 4-5 proto AV nades to kill a single LLAV....properly built LLAV that is. Try to go against my proto swarms with prof 5 and 3 complex damage mods .
i have and it didnt work out.. these other guys are crying because there militia AV or 12k sp invested is not good enough. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. League of Infamy
666
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:36:00 -
[44] - Quote
TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:echo47 wrote:I used to think LAVs were an issue unitl I speced into ADV swarm ADV AV grenades. Now I laugh at tanks and so called murder taxis. LOL LLAVs will laugh off your swarms and AV nades. It takes 4-5 proto AV nades to kill a single LLAV....properly built LLAV that is. Try to go against my proto swarms with prof 5 and 3 complex damage mods . i have and it didnt work out.. these other guys are crying because there militia AV or 12k sp invested is not good enough.
TBH I have less issues with the LLAVs than I have with free LAVs being able to eat an adv packed nade and shrug it off. However.........the logi LAVs when built correctly have a huge amount of resistance plus the charbdis already taking only 60% dmg from explosives........yea your incredibly powerful swarms will still take 3 hits to take out a charbd.... |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. League of Infamy
666
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:38:00 -
[45] - Quote
TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:good because the game would look even stupider if LAV just pushes redberry around map without doing damage to him. there's much better ways to do this than nerf sht.. like fix the maps FFS so ppl can gungame in the base that surrounds a point, have the fkn concept of a roadblock in the future?
It would be cool if you could activate a roadblock for certain maps...like you can activate a roadblock to either keep vehicles out or trap a vehicle inside of a letter area..... |
Upper Deckin
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:24:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:Upper Deckin wrote:-1 Play any game with vehicles , you're gonna get run over . Go play a cod game if you're worried about losing your proto and want to just shoot plp . With the frequency of Hit and runs in dust something needs to change, when i play battlefield i am never run over, because its hard to run people over in battlefield. Now you are probably an LAV driver and would like to keep up getting your Instant kills with the only threat to you being AV you my good sir and a low life.
Yes let's just say AV it makes your argument sound valid.....
Av grenades Swarm launchers PC Forge Gun Proxy explosives Remote explosives Installations Tanks.
But you can't kill the LAV's eh little guy ?
Poor you maybe they should change the game cause your do poorly and can't adapt to a situation.
This game is just another mediocre shooter if you take away the vehicles .
The tanks and drop ships are such a joke one infantry should not be able to solo a tank ....any tank .
Since were making sweeping assumptions i'm gonna guess you complained about the tanks b4 they got nerf'd too? |
Xender17
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:31:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:personally I think murder taxi is a viable tactic and has a viable counter measure ( AV) you don't like it then you should remove tanks as well.... that being said, CCP BLAM is a useless tool who if im not mistaken we haven't heard from since may and should at most least be removed from the head of the vehicle dept. if not fired out right for being useless and unresponsive to the community. AV isn't viable against LAV's anymore. Anyone who wants an AV buff(Other than plasma cannon) Is turning this game into cod. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:34:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:Well the humble Transport known as the Light attack vehicle is being used as a battering ram for the Lazy and maybe even "unskilled" FPS players
Then comes the Issue of -Nowhere to run -this can be solved in many ways, adding railings, trenches and barriers that are easily traversed by foot soldiers yet impossible to get over with wheeled vehicles
__HAV's are exempt from this as tracked vehicles can climb over and crawl over obstacles at lower speeds (and you Don't see HAV's running people down__
Damage to vehicles and Infantry if you hit a 200 LB Armor clad object that is 7 FT tall and 2 1/2 FT at the shoulders at 40 Km/H that should cause significant damage to a light vehicle
-Add Ragdoll physics, upon hitting a target there should not be an instant kill, but the target should be thrown over/to the side of or run over by the vehicle and not die, but be left significantly wounded.
Now, many people think "buff AV to ""Fix"" lavs" but you will inevitably cripple the other classes of vehicles that were previously being slaughtered across the board.
A 25% decrease In the base health to all LAV's, The state LAV's are in right now they remind me of the Canadian built Coyote LAV which has an ANti-tank gun on it and has 8 wheels.
Are LAV's too readily available? A free LAV can run down any Proto suit with it's back turned with no consequence other then the thump they make when they hit the bumper
I was in a match today and managed to just barely fight off 4 LAV's with a flaylock and AV naeds, LAVs don't need a decrease to health. What you're thinking about is Logistic LAVs. something needs to be done about that. And taking out free LAVs would solve a lot of problems but still something has to be done about these Logistic LAVs. A light vehicle shouldn't be able to take 3 railgun hits and survive. |
Sev Alcatraz
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:19:00 -
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went 47/2 with a balac impact this morning on a skirmish match, fitted with nothing but BPO mods and and no skills into lavs or vehicle based mods...that should say something |
echo47
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:37:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:echo47 wrote:I used to think LAVs were an issue unitl I speced into ADV swarm ADV AV grenades. Now I laugh at tanks and so called murder taxis. LOL LLAVs will laugh off your swarms and AV nades. It takes 4-5 proto AV nades to kill a single LLAV....properly built LLAV that is.
True thats why I said LAV. But there ae some wanna be drivers out there who cant properly tank. If you play an infantry role advance AV should be a part of your skill set. Proto is not needed to be effective. |
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