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Makyre Vahliha
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
251
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Posted - 2013.07.14 08:36:00 -
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I am just wondering if it's appropriate for a Minmatar to have Amarr suits and please tell me why or why not. Please don't tell me, "You can play whatever suits you want" or "Be all you can be. Army." I would prefer if an EVE Player or someone that is knowledgeable about New Eden tell me lore-wise. I am thinking of creating a Minmatar character with ties to the Amarr Empire and is able to use both Minmatar and Amarr dropsuits. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6046
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Posted - 2013.07.14 08:37:00 -
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Short answer yes.
Minmatar are not above stealing amarr tech and using it against the Amarrians. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
287
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Posted - 2013.07.14 08:40:00 -
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Yes. They do it all the time. |
Makyre Vahliha
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
251
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Posted - 2013.07.14 08:41:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Minmatar are not above stealing amarr tech and using it against the Amarrians.
So instead of being against the Amarrians, they can still be allies somewhat?
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
570
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Posted - 2013.07.14 08:44:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:I am just wondering if it's appropriate for a Minmatar to have Amarr suits and please tell me why or why not. Please don't tell me, "You can play whatever suits you want" or "Be all you can be. Army." I would prefer if an EVE Player or someone that is knowledgeable about New Eden tell me lore-wise. I am thinking of creating a Minmatar character with ties to the Amarr Empire and is able to use both Minmatar and Amarr dropsuits. Yes a Minmatar can make use of Amarrian suits provising they are loyal to the empire by RPing a Kamieras, a Matari child taken and trained to become elite soldiers that are used to combat the Minmatar.
Here is the Kamieras link.... http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Kameiras
however I have no precedent that I know of that the Minmatar remaining loyal to the Tribes would use Amarrian Armour. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
938
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Posted - 2013.07.14 08:47:00 -
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Maybe a slave who got tired of being whipped all day decided to steal an armory worth of Amarr suits, make himself immortal, and exact his fury upon his oppressors with their own weapons?
Or perhaps he is the slave of a benevolent Amarrian warrior, who treats his slaves kindly, and this one slave decides he will show the world that he too could be that knight in shining armour, defying all tests and, with the support of his master, rises through the ranks of the militia. Plot twist, though, the master is demolished by a Minmatar SMG, and as he's dying he tells the slave, who remained by his side throughout that whole battle, that his race was wretched. Thus, identity lost and feeling as if he belongs no where, he falls to the ground and roars at the sky, gets up, and turns the tide of the battle (which the Amarr were initially losing due to the impossibility to aim those bloody scrambler rifles) but then goes AWOL, to meditate upon life, but still wearing his heavy suit.
Or, if slavery isn't your thing, perhaps you are a swashbuckling Minmatar pirate, captaining a ship held together by duct tape and space glue, and eventually it breaks apart and what's left of your ship gets you to a planet occupied by the Amarr. You fight yourself out of captivity, a bloody but glorious battle, but you are left dying at the end and you tell your crew to transfer your consciousness into a clone. That clone was, however, already inside an Amarrian dropsuit, and since the Amarrian HUD shows everything tinged with gold except enemies, you assumed your crew were enemies and gunned them down. When you removed your helmet and realised what you had done, you throw the helmet at the Amarrian soldier who had rushed into the room after overcoming obstacles you had placed behind you to slow their progress, and slaughter the rest of the soldiers on the planet, resolving never to rest in your vengeance until the Amarr changed their HUD settings.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6048
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Posted - 2013.07.14 08:57:00 -
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Look up the Ammatar Bloodline (the name itself should be a big hint) if you're looking to be an allied minmatar. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
218
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Posted - 2013.07.14 08:59:00 -
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I RP as a douche that likes popped collars. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
364
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Posted - 2013.07.14 09:01:00 -
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Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
571
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Posted - 2013.07.14 09:09:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing.
The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp.
One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character.
Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great. |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
364
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Posted - 2013.07.14 09:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing. The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp. One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character. Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great.
For most people Dust 514 is just a FPS ....sorry...is nothing in the game that involve you in a specific role. Find a battle, shoot few people, check you stats.. and start all over again... over, and over again. Wining or losing makes no difference, you can use any weapon and any suit you want, ISK is only useful to carry on killing things. Without a Story and PvE ... you have no way to feel proud of been Armmar or Minatar or what ever..
Dust 514 is just a Lobby shooter... and i know you guys hate hearing this... but is the true. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
571
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Posted - 2013.07.14 09:44:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:True Adamance wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing. The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp. One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character. Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great. For most people Dust 514 is just a FPS ....sorry...is nothing in the game that involve you in a specific role. Find a battle, shoot few people, check you stats.. and start all over again... over, and over again. Wining or losing makes no difference, you can use any weapon and any suit you want, ISK is only useful to carry on killing things. Without a Story and PvE ... you have no way to feel proud of been Armmar or Minmatar or what ever.. Dust 514 is just a Lobby shooter... and i know you guys hate hearing this... but is the true.
Not for me.
I work with guy fleet side in FW, so my goal is basically to win the FW matches in systems they tell me are valuable, win those, modify the ease of Complexing, then roll on in with fleet and claim the system.
I can look at the star map as it changes and know that I am one of those who are changing that map Dust side and EVE side. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3300
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Posted - 2013.07.14 09:58:00 -
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Some players don't care for EVE lore, and aren't interested, and for those people, you don't need a reason beyond "it suits how I play" to use something.
For someone who says THIS, however:
Makyre Vahliha wrote:Please don't tell me, "You can play whatever suits you want" or "Be all you can be. Army." Pretty sure that's a good clue about the attitude being taken here.
Amarr culture is very much an institutionalised superiority complex. Minmatar society is all about making the best use of anything they can get their hands on. Traditionally, Amarr have taken Minmatar as slaves, and the current Minmatar race is directly at war with the Amarr because of it.
If you want to be a loyal Amarr-serving Minmatar, you need to be willing to accept a subservient role. If you just want a lore-accepted reason to run Amarr gear, it's reasonable to consider it stolen goods (whether by your character or someone else who sold it on). And as with any civilisation, individuals have their own ideas, so you could just take a perverse form of enjoyment from wearing the armour of your former slavers, or you might love their sense of style and not really care so much about the history behind it. |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
525
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:00:00 -
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Race traitor. |
Eriknaught
Vader's Taco Shack
55
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:05:00 -
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As a PROUD Minmatar Merc I will say that I will die (and respawn infinitely) before I touch ANY Amarr kitten. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION. |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
151
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:14:00 -
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My guy is an Amarr who uses Minmatar Scout Suits sooooooo yeah I reason it like this. My guy is a mercenary and I don't have any allegiances to anyone or anything except to my corporation that employs me and whomever pays me to fight for their cause for cold hard isk.
EDIT: Also, it doesn't help there are no Amarr Scout dropsuits released. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
571
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:15:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Race traitor. He saw the truth. |
Eriknaught
Vader's Taco Shack
55
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:19:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have.
"Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
229
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:23:00 -
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I'm Minmatar and currently use a scrambler pistol as my main gun...I feel so dirty |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
108
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:24:00 -
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Eriknaught wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION. Return when you learn a bit about the lore of this game..... and stop being a backwards Minnie weakling. |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
365
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:28:00 -
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Eriknaught wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION.
Amarr only by name.. What is an Amarr anyway ? where in the GAME can i check their history, believes, ideals, even how the kitten they look without the helmet.. ? |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2645
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:31:00 -
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Neko Unchained? |
Eriknaught
Vader's Taco Shack
55
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:33:00 -
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Kador Ouryon wrote:Eriknaught wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION. Return when you learn a bit about the lore of this game..... and stop being a backwards Minnie weakling.
Oh I know the lore. I will hold all Amarr accountable for a near millennium of slavery and oppression. I hold NO QUARTER! There may be other Minmatar out there that aren't as hateful as I am, I accept that. I on the other hand will NOT forget the Day of Darkness. See you on the battlefield. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4888
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:35:00 -
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Amarr stuff is so damn beautiful and lasery also. I hate the culture and their practices, but I love their aesthetics. |
Remm Duchax
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
72
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:47:00 -
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Minmatar do really use other races gear with ease. Oh, and if we didn't choose a certain bloodline of the Minmatar you could be one of the Minmatar still part of the Amarr Empire. (Or are those too strictly enslaved? ) |
Eriknaught
Vader's Taco Shack
56
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Posted - 2013.07.14 11:08:00 -
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Remm Duchax wrote:Minmatar do really use other races gear with ease. Oh, and if we didn't choose a certain bloodline of the Minmatar you could be one of the Minmatar still part of the Amarr Empire. (Or are those too strictly enslaved? )
^This is true. |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
530
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Posted - 2013.07.14 11:12:00 -
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Eriknaught wrote:Kador Ouryon wrote:Eriknaught wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION. Return when you learn a bit about the lore of this game..... and stop being a backwards Minnie weakling. Oh I know the lore. I will hold all Amarr accountable for a near millennium of slavery and oppression. I hold NO QUARTER! There may be other Minmatar out there that aren't as hateful as I am, I accept that. I on the other hand will NOT forget the Day of Darkness. See you on the battlefield. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. I like you a lot. Purge the cluster of these vile slavers. |
Celeste Cyra
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.14 11:53:00 -
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So would my planned mass driver, flaylock pistol, contact grenade, remote explosive abusing Amarr logi be acceptable in lore? |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
533
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Posted - 2013.07.14 12:05:00 -
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Celeste Cyra wrote:So would my planned mass driver, flaylock pistol, contact grenade, remote explosive abusing Amarr logi be acceptable in lore? You'd probably be considered a heretic and forced into slavery. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
573
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Posted - 2013.07.14 12:07:00 -
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Eriknaught wrote:Kador Ouryon wrote:Eriknaught wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION. Return when you learn a bit about the lore of this game..... and stop being a backwards Minnie weakling. Oh I know the lore. I will hold all Amarr accountable for a near millennium of slavery and oppression. I hold NO QUARTER! There may be other Minmatar out there that aren't as hateful as I am, I accept that. I on the other hand will NOT forget the Day of Darkness. See you on the battlefield. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION.
That I shall. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
573
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Posted - 2013.07.14 12:08:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Eriknaught wrote:Kador Ouryon wrote:Eriknaught wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION. Return when you learn a bit about the lore of this game..... and stop being a backwards Minnie weakling. Oh I know the lore. I will hold all Amarr accountable for a near millennium of slavery and oppression. I hold NO QUARTER! There may be other Minmatar out there that aren't as hateful as I am, I accept that. I on the other hand will NOT forget the Day of Darkness. See you on the battlefield. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. I like you a lot. Purge the cluster of these vile slavers.
We will see. A Templar is worth ten normal mercenaries.
((BTW were the closest thing to space marines this game has..... let that sink in.....)) |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
536
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Posted - 2013.07.14 12:37:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: ((BTW were the closest thing to space marines this game has..... let that sink in.....))
It's not sinking anywhere because I don't know anything about warhammer. :( But i know eve already has marines. |
Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
182
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Posted - 2013.07.14 13:07:00 -
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My alt is a big boned Minmi guy. Only XXXL Dropsuit that fits me is the Amarrian one. I can not run the battlefield naked, right? Would prefer to have our lovely HMG on a minmi suit, but these are not available.
On the other hand my primary is Gallente, but he loves simple stuff, so runs full Minmi all the time. |
Your Absolut End
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
116
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Posted - 2013.07.14 13:09:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Short answer yes.
Minmatar are not above stealing amarr tech and using it against the Amarrians.
Amarr on the other hand are more prone to NOT solly themselves with minmatar gear.
exactly this.
i'm playing minny with amarr equip myself |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3303
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Posted - 2013.07.14 13:43:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Celeste Cyra wrote:So would my planned mass driver, flaylock pistol, contact grenade, remote explosive abusing Amarr logi be acceptable in lore? You'd probably be considered a heretic and forced into slavery. Or exile, like the Templar Renegades.
It wouldn't be appropriate to use those weapons as a LOYAL Amarrian, but that doesn't mean you can't do it. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War
2261
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:41:00 -
[36] - Quote
I think Amarr stuff would make for good trophies. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
763
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:48:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:I am just wondering if it's appropriate for a Minmatar to have Amarr suits and please tell me why or why not. Please don't tell me, "You can play whatever suits you want" or "Be all you can be. Army." I would prefer if an EVE Player or someone that is knowledgeable about New Eden tell me lore-wise. I am thinking of creating a Minmatar character with ties to the Amarr Empire and is able to use both Minmatar and Amarr dropsuits.
Minmatar hold their ships together with no-more-nails and moxy. They'd cream their knickers for a chance to run around in Amarr gear. Although in terms of gameplay, I'd sooner recommend Minny suits and Amarr weapons than the reverse. The exception of course being if you're a heavy. |
Atlas Pillar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
12
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:53:00 -
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What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. |
Operative 1174 Uuali
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
27
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Posted - 2013.07.14 15:03:00 -
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I have a Minmatar character in EVE that I recreated in DUST. I don't role play in the since of acting out a character. I'm from the old school D&D days of just having some kind of idea about the character and defining them accordingly.
I made her half Ammatar on her mother's side (Brutor father) and grew up in the Derelik region. So she doesn't care about the politics of either Amarr or Minmatar empires but she would just as soon have access to Amarr tech as she would Minmatar.
However, you are dealing with mercenaries. Just like capsuleers they would use whatever they would personally prefer and any tech is available anywhere no matter what the region or race/culture.
I gave her amarr armor only because I ended up making her a scrambler rifle character and you need the amarr assault role suit to reduce feedback on the rifle. |
IONA GUNN
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.07.14 15:09:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:I am just wondering if it's appropriate for a Minmatar to have Amarr suits and please tell me why or why not. Please don't tell me, "You can play whatever suits you want" or "Be all you can be. Army." I would prefer if an EVE Player or someone that is knowledgeable about New Eden tell me lore-wise. I am thinking of creating a Minmatar character with ties to the Amarr Empire and is able to use both Minmatar and Amarr dropsuits. I'm a Calderi with a n Amarr suit......female. I need all the protection I can get. Wear whatever works for you. The one disadvantage is I keep tripping over my own big feet. If it works, why not. |
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Celeste Cyra
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.07.14 15:28:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:First Prophet wrote:Celeste Cyra wrote:So would my planned mass driver, flaylock pistol, contact grenade, remote explosive abusing Amarr logi be acceptable in lore? You'd probably be considered a heretic and forced into slavery. Or exile, like the Templar Renegades. It wouldn't be appropriate to use those weapons as a LOYAL Amarrian, but that doesn't mean you can't do it.
So the Amarr are against explosions then... Well what weapons would be appropriate then? |
Tatarina G'Had
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.14 16:21:00 -
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I think the point of the whole DUST immortality thing is that it has allowed a lot of soldiers to become independent, so they wear what suits works best for them. Those mercs who choose to remain loyal to a faction would theoretically only have access and training for their faction's suits. The point being that it is a choice to have those restrictions. |
Aleksander Black
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.14 16:36:00 -
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I use Amarr Assault Suits with a Scrambler Rifle and a SMG. I tried going full amarr with a scrambler pistol as sidearm but not having a weapon with bonus to finish-off armor was being problematic. Also, the SMG works better at CQC than the SP, at least for me. And I only play at the Amarr side in FW, gotta show those slaves their place.
That being said, I have nothing against using Minmatar tech. My favourite faction in EVE is the Blood Raiders and they make use mainly of Amarr frames modified with Minmatar tech. I know that one day I'll have my Blood Raider Dropsuit, one very far day...
So, yeah, I picture my character as an Amarr Merceneray that has secret ties with the nuttiest pirate faction in the game, so I'm not ever going to touch Gallente and Caldari gear, but Amarr and Minmatar are free to go. The things you do for the lore... For the ones that care about it, it does give something more to the game. And its not like it doesn't suit my playstyle or anything, plus the amarr dropsuits are awesome. |
Eriknaught
Vader's Taco Shack
75
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:08:00 -
[44] - Quote
Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food.
Touch my tacos and I'll biomass you myself! |
pierce Hawkeye
843 Boot Camp
23
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:14:00 -
[45] - Quote
Eriknaught wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. Touch my tacos and I'll biomass you myself!
lol nicely said i myself am amaar but use minmitar stuff. ironic? yes, i'm like a secret amaar agent. |
Akdhar Saif
Resistance of Tomorrow
28
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:19:00 -
[46] - Quote
The Ammatar were thought to be a traitorous tribe amongst the Minmatar because they supposedly switched sides. What actually happened was they switched sides to protect the last remnants of the Nefantar (or was it Starkmanir) and have recently rejoined the Minmatar Republic.
RP'ing an Ammatar/Nefantar in an Amarr Suit, who has just rejoined the Republic makes perfect sense. |
Atlas Pillar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
20
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:35:00 -
[47] - Quote
Eriknaught wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. Touch my tacos and I'll biomass you myself! Ew, why would I touch your filthy tacos? I'd get the slave handler to do it. I could get some disease! |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
796
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 20:38:00 -
[48] - Quote
Makyre Vahliha wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Minmatar are not above stealing amarr tech and using it against the Amarrians. So instead of being against the Amarrians, they can still be allies somewhat? Lol no, Minmatar just do whatever it takes to win. They are survivors. Amarr are just religious nationalist. |
Atlas Pillar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
20
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:40:00 -
[49] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Minmatar are not above stealing amarr tech and using it against the Amarrians. So instead of being against the Amarrians, they can still be allies somewhat? Lol no, Minmatar just do whatever it takes to win. They are survivors. Amarr are just religious nationalist. lol @ Minmitarmercbedsaresoiled |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
119
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:06:00 -
[50] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:[quote=Makyre Vahliha] Lol no, Minmatar just do whatever it takes to win. They are survivors. Amarr are just religious nationalist. Yes, because any culture that spans lightyears of space will be "just" anything. |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
775
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:16:00 -
[51] - Quote
Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. He cares, as per his specific wording. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
686
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 21:39:00 -
[52] - Quote
Arx Ardashir wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:[quote=Makyre Vahliha] Lol no, Minmatar just do whatever it takes to win. They are survivors. Amarr are just religious nationalist. Yes, because any culture that spans lightyears of space will be "just" anything. Yeah that comment about "just" being religious nationalists lost you a whole lot of respect points Kirk like most people you haven't even bothered to learn anything about the Amarr and yet you still want to judge them as if you had....
The Amarr are a Theological nation ruled over by an imperialist mandate, with the express goal of retaking the star in the name of humanity and bringing peace to New Eden in the name of God.
((Closest Sci fi parallels are the Adeptus Astartes)) |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3324
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 22:26:00 -
[53] - Quote
Celeste Cyra wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:First Prophet wrote:Celeste Cyra wrote:So would my planned mass driver, flaylock pistol, contact grenade, remote explosive abusing Amarr logi be acceptable in lore? You'd probably be considered a heretic and forced into slavery. Or exile, like the Templar Renegades. It wouldn't be appropriate to use those weapons as a LOYAL Amarrian, but that doesn't mean you can't do it. So the Amarr are against explosions then... Well what weapons would be appropriate then? Lasers, including Scramblers (which are Laser-based weapons), and they talk a lot about "cleansing fire"... so when there's a Flamethrower or incendiary grenade, that will probably be made by Amarr.
They aren't against explosions in general. Just the ones produced by their former slaves. |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
618
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 22:40:00 -
[54] - Quote
Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. Why don't you go get proto stomped by the Jove some more? |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
423
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 22:52:00 -
[55] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. Why don't you go get proto stomped by the Jove some more?
.... doubt your race would even have the capacity to go toe to toe with the Jove.... they destroyed an Amarri fleet in one battle.... they'd destroy you whole race in a day... |
Celeste Cyra
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
6
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 23:14:00 -
[56] - Quote
Garrett Blacknova wrote:Celeste Cyra wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:First Prophet wrote:Celeste Cyra wrote:So would my planned mass driver, flaylock pistol, contact grenade, remote explosive abusing Amarr logi be acceptable in lore? You'd probably be considered a heretic and forced into slavery. Or exile, like the Templar Renegades. It wouldn't be appropriate to use those weapons as a LOYAL Amarrian, but that doesn't mean you can't do it. So the Amarr are against explosions then... Well what weapons would be appropriate then? Lasers, including Scramblers (which are Laser-based weapons), and they talk a lot about "cleansing fire"... so when there's a Flamethrower or incendiary grenade, that will probably be made by Amarr. They aren't against explosions in general. Just the ones produced by their former slaves.
Flamethrowers and incendiary grenades sound like fun.
I tried using the laser rifle and scrambler rifle and they're just horrible for me. I can sort of work with the scrabler rifle but the charged/weak shooting system is strange. I feel like a short range sniper with bb gun back up if it doesn't work lol. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3325
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 11:39:00 -
[57] - Quote
Celeste Cyra wrote:I tried using the laser rifle and scrambler rifle and they're just horrible for me. I can sort of work with the scrabler rifle but the charged/weak shooting system is strange. I feel like a short range sniper with bb gun back up if it doesn't work lol. I'm not good with the Scrambler either, but I've been told aiming for headshots is helpful. Scrambler Pistols have a 450% modifier on headshots. I'm pretty sure the Rifle's modifier isn't that high, but I'm told it's still good. Try that sometime. |
Imp Smash
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
176
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:43:00 -
[58] - Quote
Some of us Minmatar are converted. We were enslaved by only as a tool to teach us the one true way. When we have finally seen the light we are freed and sent out to live as find upstanding citizens.
FOR THE EMPRESS! |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
646
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 11:48:00 -
[59] - Quote
Harkon Vysarii wrote:First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. Why don't you go get proto stomped by the Jove some more? .... doubt your race would even have the capacity to go toe to toe with the Jove.... they destroyed an Amarri fleet in one battle.... they'd destroy you whole race in a day... Don't need to. The jove like us. :3 |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
697
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 11:50:00 -
[60] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. Why don't you go get proto stomped by the Jove some more? .... doubt your race would even have the capacity to go toe to toe with the Jove.... they destroyed an Amarri fleet in one battle.... they'd destroy you whole race in a day... Don't need to. The jove like us. :3 They like the Caldari more. |
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First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
646
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 11:53:00 -
[61] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. Why don't you go get proto stomped by the Jove some more? .... doubt your race would even have the capacity to go toe to toe with the Jove.... they destroyed an Amarri fleet in one battle.... they'd destroy you whole race in a day... Don't need to. The jove like us. :3 They like the Caldari more. Good for them? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
697
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 11:55:00 -
[62] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:[ Good for them?
All I'm saying is being the petulant teenagers of EVE doesn't get sympathy....only pity. |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
647
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 11:59:00 -
[63] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:[ Good for them? All I'm saying is being the petulant teenagers of EVE doesn't get sympathy....only pity. Being an imperial slaver only gets you beaten with rust buckets. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
697
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 12:08:00 -
[64] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:[ Good for them? All I'm saying is being the petulant teenagers of EVE doesn't get sympathy....only pity. Being an imperial slaver only gets you beaten with rust buckets. Yet to see a Rust Jockey even get close enough to me to pull that sort of mischief.... The Lord's light is pure, it burns the wicked, and condemns them to an eternity with out his love. |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
648
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 12:11:00 -
[65] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:[ Good for them? All I'm saying is being the petulant teenagers of EVE doesn't get sympathy....only pity. Being an imperial slaver only gets you beaten with rust buckets. Yet to see a Rust Jockey even get close enough to me to pull that sort of mischief.... The Lord's light is pure, it burns the wicked, and condemns them to an eternity with out his love. Feeling just fine bro. We'll see what burns better. Your light or my grenades. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
698
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 12:15:00 -
[66] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:[ Good for them? All I'm saying is being the petulant teenagers of EVE doesn't get sympathy....only pity. Being an imperial slaver only gets you beaten with rust buckets. Yet to see a Rust Jockey even get close enough to me to pull that sort of mischief.... The Lord's light is pure, it burns the wicked, and condemns them to an eternity with out his love. Feeling just fine bro. We'll see what burns better. Your light or my grenades. ((With their splash damage greater than that of a large rail gun.... oh sweet jesus I cannot wait for that rail to get its buff also you have the distinct advantage with armour being utter crap in this game but I wont back down))
Yes we shall.
As a veteran of many battles against the Minmatar and their sympathisers I can say this. You lack conviction. Your strength comes from your anger, but it blinds you to the truth. Let it go and you will see there is no need for the Children of God to fight.
((Also I've made so many great arch nemeses through this amarr RP thing I hope to see you guys on the field)) |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
649
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 12:25:00 -
[67] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote: All I'm saying is being the petulant teenagers of EVE doesn't get sympathy....only pity.
Being an imperial slaver only gets you beaten with rust buckets. Yet to see a Rust Jockey even get close enough to me to pull that sort of mischief.... The Lord's light is pure, it burns the wicked, and condemns them to an eternity with out his love. Feeling just fine bro. We'll see what burns better. Your light or my grenades. ((With their splash damage greater than that of a large rail gun.... oh sweet jesus I cannot wait for that rail to get its buff also you have the distinct advantage with armour being utter crap in this game but I wont back down)) Yes we shall. As a veteran of many battles against the Minmatar and their sympathisers I can say this. You lack conviction. Your strength comes from your anger, but it blinds you to the truth. Let it go and you will see there is no need for the Children of God to fight. ((Also I've made so many great arch nemeses through this amarr RP thing I hope to see you guys on the field)) (lol. Don't forget Flaylock SMG MD > Laser rifle. Tried using the LR after the nerf and good god did that thing ever get hit hard. At least the scrambler rifle's decent.) As a God fearing Amarr loyalist you should know how terrifying vengeance can be. You and your kind will be pay for what you've done to me and my people. We will not rest until all minmatar are free, and amarr prime is in flames. Matari wrath will strike harder and fiercer than your god ever could.
I'm glad you've made peace with your god. Because you'll be seeing him soon. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
704
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 12:41:00 -
[68] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:[(lol. Don't forget Flaylock SMG MD > Laser rifle. Tried using the LR after the nerf and good god did that thing ever get hit hard. At least the scrambler rifle's decent.) As a God fearing Amarr loyalist you should know how terrifying vengeance can be. You and your kind will be pay for what you've done to me and my people. We will not rest until all minmatar are free, and amarr prime is in flames. Matari wrath will strike harder and fiercer than your god ever could.
I'm glad you've made peace with your god. Because you'll be seeing him soon.
Nay Matari child.
I have made peace with my God not for his mercy or love, but in that I shall never know his as the mortals do.
However you cannot free Matari who do not want to be freed. All current slaves can become Ammatar, many even want to, some wish to take the word of the Faith back to their people so that they too may know God. This you cannot prevent.
(( I would highly debate the MD, and Flaylock are better than the scrambler and laser. I rarely even approach within 50m of my targets before I open fire. Since using the laser I haven't really been felled by any explosives unless I am spawning in a hotzone. The Amarrian doctrine in dust revolved around dictating the range of engagements, and that is what I do. You have never faced an Amarrian firing line I guarantee you that.... since noone but PIE does it....)) |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
562
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 13:21:00 -
[69] - Quote
If you're interested in what makes sense for one of the empires, take a lot at their demographics page.
If you choose Brutor for your Minmatar bloodline,
Quote:The majority of Brutor in the Empire remain enslaved and make up the largest percentage of the Empire's slaves. However, a large number of free Brutor live in the Empire as well, though they are only the fifth most populous free bloodline. Free Brutor, as with most free Minmatar living in the Empire, are among the poorest groups in New Eden. The majority work menial jobs, particularly related to manual labor.
If you choose Sebiestor,
Quote:Like the Brutor, most Sebiestor remain enslaved, but despite being less numerous, similar numbers have been granted their freedom. The Amarr credit this to the more docile nature of the Sebiestor. The tribe has had somewhat greater luck in integrating with Amarr society as well and free Sebiestor find themselves slightly better off as a result. The majority still live in poverty, but they often have a few less negative stereotypes working against them.
And if you choose the Vherokior bloodline,
Quote:Of the free Minmatar bloodlines, the Vherokior are the best well-off within the Empire, but still in smaller numbers than the Brutor or Sebiestor. Vherokior are generally considered somewhat below the Ni-Kunni on the social ladder of the Empire and fewer stereotypes exist against them than the other Minmatar bloodlines. Many join the priesthood and act as missionaries. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
857
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Posted - 2013.07.15 13:25:00 -
[70] - Quote
Minmatar are practical first and foremost... if an armanian design is right for the job so be it. |
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KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
121
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Posted - 2013.07.15 13:29:00 -
[71] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing. The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp. One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character. Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great.
That's EVE Dust is not Eve at all. We have no lore here. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
562
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 13:37:00 -
[72] - Quote
KING SALASI wrote:True Adamance wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing. The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp. One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character. Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great. That's EVE Dust is not Eve at all. We have no lore here. Not sure if serious. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
121
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 14:22:00 -
[73] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:KING SALASI wrote:True Adamance wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing. The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp. One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character. Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great. That's EVE Dust is not Eve at all. We have no lore here. Not sure if serious.
Dust is a lobby shooter that's it the only connection Dust have with Eve is that both game are made by CCP. The comparison stops there but, if you want to pretend Dust have a lore more power to you. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
563
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 14:26:00 -
[74] - Quote
KING SALASI wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:KING SALASI wrote:True Adamance wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing. The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp. One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character. Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great. That's EVE Dust is not Eve at all. We have no lore here. Not sure if serious. Dust is a lobby shooter that's it the only connection Dust have with Eve is that both game are made by CCP. The comparison stops there but, if you want to pretend Dust have a lore more power to you. I'm not sure if you understand the definition of "lore."
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KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
121
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:36:00 -
[75] - Quote
I play Eve so yes i know what it is. We only have about 10% of content in Dust what lore lol. Again you can pretend it's all good. |
Atlas Pillar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
22
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:44:00 -
[76] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. Why don't you go get proto stomped by the Jove some more? Why don't you get protostomped by the Amarr for another 700 years? |
Makyre Vahliha
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
269
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 01:03:00 -
[77] - Quote
KING SALASI wrote:True Adamance wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing. The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp. One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character. Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great. That's EVE Dust is not Eve at all. We have no lore here.
Dust is Eve. Both games do not show very much of the lore in-game other than at character creation so far as I know, but we have a lot of that on the websites and EVE universe is full of lores. Also, what we do in-game can also affect lore as well, though uncommon. |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
657
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 01:11:00 -
[78] - Quote
Atlas Pillar wrote:First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. Why don't you go get proto stomped by the Jove some more? Why don't you get protostomped by the Amarr for another 700 years? Nope! We got enough passive SP for our own proto gear, and we have more skill so we'll be do the stomping this time. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
714
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 01:31:00 -
[79] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. Why don't you go get proto stomped by the Jove some more? Why don't you get protostomped by the Amarr for another 700 years? Nope! We got enough passive SP for our own proto gear, and we have more skill so we'll be do the stomping this time.
we have 700 years of ACTIVE SP mate..... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
714
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 01:32:00 -
[80] - Quote
KING SALASI wrote:True Adamance wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing. The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp. One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character. Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great. That's EVE Dust is not Eve at all. We have no lore here.
All of the lore in EVE is applicable to the Dusters here. Seems like most of the dust players don't want to actually be involved with the universe they will be shaping. |
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First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
659
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:33:00 -
[81] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:What are all you Minmitar doing discussing things and being mercenaries? You need to get back in your slave pens before I take away your food. Why don't you go get proto stomped by the Jove some more? Why don't you get protostomped by the Amarr for another 700 years? Nope! We got enough passive SP for our own proto gear, and we have more skill so we'll be do the stomping this time. we have 700 years of ACTIVE SP mate..... You spent all that SP on the shiny floor SP sink.
We used ours to train core skills and useful weapon bonuses. |
Atlas Pillar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
22
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Posted - 2013.07.16 02:09:00 -
[82] - Quote
Shiny floor? No, we spent all ours on fashionable and functionable dropsuits with SCR Prof. and still managed to keep clean merc quarters. All up on the high horse about being better and still live like swine. |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
659
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Posted - 2013.07.16 03:45:00 -
[83] - Quote
Atlas Pillar wrote:Shiny floor? No, we spent all ours on fashionable and functionable dropsuits with SCR Prof. and still managed to keep clean merc quarters. All up on the high horse about being better and still live like swine. We are better. Not that you'd see that what with your suits having no eyes. But hey, whatever helps blind you from the facts. We will free all the slaves, and you will pay for all your oppression. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
720
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Posted - 2013.07.16 03:47:00 -
[84] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote: we have 700 years of ACTIVE SP mate.....
You spent all that SP on the shiny floor SP sink. We used ours to train core skills and useful weapon bonuses. (( We specced Lasers and Armour we don't need crutch weapons to beat your tribal asses down. Come back when you men don't ***** out as shield infantry.
Real Men Armour Tank
REALER MEN HULL TANK!)) |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
659
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Posted - 2013.07.16 03:49:00 -
[85] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote: we have 700 years of ACTIVE SP mate.....
You spent all that SP on the shiny floor SP sink. We used ours to train core skills and useful weapon bonuses. (( We specced Lasers and Armour we don't need crutch weapons to beat your tribal asses down. Come back when you men don't ***** out as shield infantry. Real Men Armour Tank REALER MEN HULL TANK!)) Is that meant to be out of character? Because it's like it's in character. Not sure how to respond. :\ The realest men speed tank. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
720
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Posted - 2013.07.16 03:50:00 -
[86] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote: we have 700 years of ACTIVE SP mate.....
You spent all that SP on the shiny floor SP sink. We used ours to train core skills and useful weapon bonuses. (( We specced Lasers and Armour we don't need crutch weapons to beat your tribal asses down. Come back when you men don't ***** out as shield infantry. Real Men Armour Tank REALER MEN HULL TANK!)) Is that meant to be out of character? Because it's like it's in character. Not sure how to respond. :\ The realest men speed tank. (( Well PIE guidelines says I should always post IC but im kind of melding my own Amarrianness and OOC posts together Im sorry...)) |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
659
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Posted - 2013.07.16 03:52:00 -
[87] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote: we have 700 years of ACTIVE SP mate.....
You spent all that SP on the shiny floor SP sink. We used ours to train core skills and useful weapon bonuses. (( We specced Lasers and Armour we don't need crutch weapons to beat your tribal asses down. Come back when you men don't ***** out as shield infantry. Real Men Armour Tank REALER MEN HULL TANK!)) Is that meant to be out of character? Because it's like it's in character. Not sure how to respond. :\ The realest men speed tank. (( Well PIE guidelines says I should always post IC but im kind of melding my own Amarrianness and OOC posts together Im sorry...)) lol. I'm not PIE so I don't know your rules. Anyway, I don't really want to RP anymore. It's pretty much me vs. every amarr in this forum. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
720
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Posted - 2013.07.16 03:58:00 -
[88] - Quote
Yeah we are a dedicated bunch of players. I remember when the Minnies out numbered us 10 to 1 |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
660
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Posted - 2013.07.16 04:01:00 -
[89] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Yeah we are a dedicated bunch of players. I remember when the Minnies out numbered us 10 to 1 I guess so. Never really played EVE so I don't know much about how the factions do over there. Never really RP'd before either. |
Atlas Pillar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
22
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:24:00 -
[90] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:Shiny floor? No, we spent all ours on fashionable and functionable dropsuits with SCR Prof. and still managed to keep clean merc quarters. All up on the high horse about being better and still live like swine. We are better. Not that you'd see that what with your suits having no eyes. But hey, whatever helps blind you from the facts. We will free all the slaves, and you will pay for all your oppression. Our suits don't NEED eyes. We can smell your putrid stench from 40 km away. We could beat you blind. |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2514
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:30:00 -
[91] - Quote
Gigatron Prime wrote:I RP as a douche that likes popped collars. Best RPer ever. |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
663
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:55:00 -
[92] - Quote
Atlas Pillar wrote:First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:Shiny floor? No, we spent all ours on fashionable and functionable dropsuits with SCR Prof. and still managed to keep clean merc quarters. All up on the high horse about being better and still live like swine. We are better. Not that you'd see that what with your suits having no eyes. But hey, whatever helps blind you from the facts. We will free all the slaves, and you will pay for all your oppression. Our suits don't NEED eyes. We can smell your putrid stench from 40 km away. We could beat you blind. Is that why I have no problem sneaking up on your heavy soldiers and knifing them in the back? |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
578
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:29:00 -
[93] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Yeah we are a dedicated bunch of players. I remember when the Minnies out numbered us 10 to 1 I remember when that one Minnie dared to join our squad. "Wha . . . what is this? Shoot him!"
First Prophet wrote: It's pretty much me vs. every amarr in this forum.
Not our fault Minmatar don't have a strong enough motive to garner a large and supportive following. Kind of hard to sympathize with a race that was on track to be accepted into the largest and most luxurious empire in all of New Eden. |
Atlas Pillar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
22
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:15:00 -
[94] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:Shiny floor? No, we spent all ours on fashionable and functionable dropsuits with SCR Prof. and still managed to keep clean merc quarters. All up on the high horse about being better and still live like swine. We are better. Not that you'd see that what with your suits having no eyes. But hey, whatever helps blind you from the facts. We will free all the slaves, and you will pay for all your oppression. Our suits don't NEED eyes. We can smell your putrid stench from 40 km away. We could beat you blind. Is that why I have no problem sneaking up on your heavy soldiers and knifing them in the back? No, it's why I can forge gun you and your kind from 300m away. |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
667
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:47:00 -
[95] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Yeah we are a dedicated bunch of players. I remember when the Minnies out numbered us 10 to 1 I remember when that one Minnie dared to join our squad. "Wha . . . what is this? Shoot him!" First Prophet wrote: It's pretty much me vs. every amarr in this forum.
Not our fault Minmatar don't have a strong enough motive to garner a large and supportive following. Kind of hard to sympathize with a race that was on track to be accepted into the largest and most luxurious empire in all of New Eden. Way to say the minmatar can't garner a large following in the same post you quote being out numbered 10 to 1. |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
667
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:56:00 -
[96] - Quote
Atlas Pillar wrote:First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:First Prophet wrote:Atlas Pillar wrote:Shiny floor? No, we spent all ours on fashionable and functionable dropsuits with SCR Prof. and still managed to keep clean merc quarters. All up on the high horse about being better and still live like swine. We are better. Not that you'd see that what with your suits having no eyes. But hey, whatever helps blind you from the facts. We will free all the slaves, and you will pay for all your oppression. Our suits don't NEED eyes. We can smell your putrid stench from 40 km away. We could beat you blind. Is that why I have no problem sneaking up on your heavy soldiers and knifing them in the back? No, it's why I can forge gun you and your kind from 300m away. Yeah. Has to be with a caldari weapon cause we all know you can't engineer a good weapon worth anything. Lol laser rifles. Just another telltale sign of the amarr's downfall. Your fatsuits can't stop our mass drivers, so now you're scared. we overcame and won our freedom. next we'll win our vengeance. |
XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
161
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Posted - 2013.07.16 22:10:00 -
[97] - Quote
Truth is the Ammar are the easiest race to join lore wise. Just say you are reclaimed and BAM instant Ammar loyalty. Also a LOT of our tech is utter crap so we'll still keep you as long as you keep on killing Ammar slavers. Also if you read Templar 1, you find out that we are not above using their own tech against them if it gives us an edge. (we even stole a doctor, who was a reclaimed caldari) |
Makyre Vahliha
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
272
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Posted - 2013.07.17 02:36:00 -
[98] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:the real issue is that no one in dust cares about the lore or RPing.
Did you just wander in here by accident? Okay, you got lost. I'll hold your hand and show you the way. Look at the sign post - the subject line of this thread. See that? Good. Next, there's the OP. Read all of that? Ah-ha. Now you know! Alright, you should know by now that there are people like us that's just so immersed into the world and that includes RPing, lores, history, and all of the small details. Please do not assume that "no one cares." I do care. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
219
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Posted - 2013.07.17 02:40:00 -
[99] - Quote
as a man I often ask myself the same thing every time I put on a dress..... wait... what was the question? |
Commander Cope
Expert Intervention Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:31:00 -
[100] - Quote
Makyre Vahliha wrote:I am just wondering if it's appropriate for a Minmatar to have Amarr suits and please tell me why or why not. Please don't tell me, "You can play whatever suits you want" or "Be all you can be. Army." I would prefer if an EVE Player or someone that is knowledgeable about New Eden tell me lore-wise. I am thinking of creating a Minmatar character with ties to the Amarr Empire and is able to use both Minmatar and Amarr dropsuits. That probably wouldn't happen in the game if it were real since the Amarr inslaved the Minmatar race for for centuries (check the description of the race or he origin video). So, if you care about backround no, even though I use a Gallente dropsuit and my character is Caldarian. |
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First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
670
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:27:00 -
[101] - Quote
Makyre Vahliha wrote:First Prophet wrote:the real issue is that no one in dust cares about the lore or RPing. Did you just wander in here by accident? Okay, you got lost. I'll hold your hand and show you the way. Look at the sign post - the subject line of this thread. See that? Good. Next, there's the OP. Read all of that? Ah-ha. Now you know! Alright, you should know by now that there are people like us that's just so immersed into the world and that includes RPing, lores, history, and all of the small details. Please do not assume that "no one cares." I do care. Right, thanks. Let me rephrase, the vast majority of dust players don't care. Now, let me take your hand and show you the magical world of the last two pages, where I, myself, did some RP type conversation with some other gentlemen who also did the same. So yes, I'm well aware that there's a few gentlemen knowledgeable about the lore, my main point was that the FPS community in general, including dust, is not interesting in lore.
Hopefully this new experience has opened you to the possibility that not everyone in the world is so literal. |
GVGISDEAD
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:29:00 -
[102] - Quote
Yes, inside the suit you will find a slave chip that will make you follow Amarr rules forever and will torture your cloned genital with spikes |
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