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        |  Makyre Vahliha
 GamersForChrist
 Orion Empire
 
 251
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 08:36:00 -
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 I am just wondering if it's appropriate for a Minmatar to have Amarr suits and please tell me why or why not. Please don't tell me, "You can play whatever suits you want" or "Be all you can be. Army." I would prefer if an EVE Player or someone that is knowledgeable about New Eden tell me lore-wise. I am thinking of creating a Minmatar character with ties to the Amarr Empire and is able to use both Minmatar and Amarr dropsuits.
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 6046
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 08:37:00 -
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 Short answer yes.
 
 Minmatar are not above stealing amarr tech and using it against the Amarrians.
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        |  Godin Thekiller
 Ghost Wolf Industries
 Alpha Wolf Pack
 
 287
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 08:40:00 -
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 Yes. They do it all the time.
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        |  Makyre Vahliha
 GamersForChrist
 Orion Empire
 
 251
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 08:41:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Minmatar are not above stealing amarr tech and using it against the Amarrians.  
 So instead of being against the Amarrians, they can still be allies somewhat?
 
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        |  True Adamance
 PIE Inc.
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 570
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 08:44:00 -
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 Makyre Vahliha wrote:I am just wondering if it's appropriate for a Minmatar to have Amarr suits and please tell me why or why not. Please don't tell me, "You can play whatever suits you want" or "Be all you can be. Army." I would prefer if an EVE Player or someone that is knowledgeable about New Eden tell me lore-wise. I am thinking of creating a Minmatar character with ties to the Amarr Empire and is able to use both Minmatar and Amarr dropsuits.  Yes a Minmatar can make use of Amarrian suits provising they are loyal to the empire by RPing a Kamieras, a Matari child taken and trained to become elite soldiers that are used to combat the Minmatar.
 
 Here is the Kamieras link.... http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Kameiras
 
 
 however I have no precedent that I know of that the Minmatar remaining loyal to the Tribes would use Amarrian Armour.
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        |  Vyzion Eyri
 The Southern Legion
 RISE of LEGION
 
 938
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 08:47:00 -
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 Maybe a slave who got tired of being whipped all day decided to steal an armory worth of Amarr suits, make himself immortal, and exact his fury upon his oppressors with their own weapons?
 
 Or perhaps he is the slave of a benevolent Amarrian warrior, who treats his slaves kindly, and this one slave decides he will show the world that he too could be that knight in shining armour, defying all tests and, with the support of his master, rises through the ranks of the militia. Plot twist, though, the master is demolished by a Minmatar SMG, and as he's dying he tells the slave, who remained by his side throughout that whole battle, that his race was wretched. Thus, identity lost and feeling as if he belongs no where, he falls to the ground and roars at the sky, gets up, and turns the tide of the battle (which the Amarr were initially losing due to the impossibility to aim those bloody scrambler rifles) but then goes AWOL, to meditate upon life, but still wearing his heavy suit.
 
 Or, if slavery isn't your thing, perhaps you are a swashbuckling Minmatar pirate, captaining a ship held together by duct tape and space glue, and eventually it breaks apart and what's left of your ship gets you to a planet occupied by the Amarr. You fight yourself out of captivity, a bloody but glorious battle, but you are left dying at the end and you tell your crew to transfer your consciousness into a clone. That clone was, however, already inside an Amarrian dropsuit, and since the Amarrian HUD shows everything tinged with gold except enemies, you assumed your crew were enemies and gunned them down. When you removed your helmet and realised what you had done, you throw the helmet at the Amarrian soldier who had rushed into the room after overcoming obstacles you had placed behind you to slow their progress, and slaughter the rest of the soldiers on the planet, resolving never to rest in your vengeance until the Amarr changed their HUD settings.
 
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 6048
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 08:57:00 -
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 Look up the Ammatar Bloodline (the name itself should be a big hint) if you're looking to be an allied minmatar.
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        |  Gigatron Prime
 The.Primes
 
 218
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 08:59:00 -
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 I RP as a douche that likes popped collars.
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        |  Banning Hammer
 Tal-Romon Legion
 Amarr Empire
 
 364
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 09:01:00 -
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 Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have.
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        |  True Adamance
 PIE Inc.
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 571
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 09:09:00 -
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 Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing.
 
 The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp.
 
 One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character.
 
 Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great.
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        |  Banning Hammer
 Tal-Romon Legion
 Amarr Empire
 
 364
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 09:17:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have.  Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing. The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp. One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character. Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great. 
 For most people Dust 514 is just a FPS ....sorry...is nothing in the game that involve you in a specific role. Find a battle, shoot few people, check you stats.. and start all over again... over, and over again. Wining or losing makes no difference, you can use any weapon and any suit you want, ISK is only useful to carry on killing things. Without a Story and PvE ... you have no way to feel proud of been Armmar or Minatar or what ever..
 
 Dust 514 is just a Lobby shooter... and i know you guys hate hearing this... but is the true.
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        |  True Adamance
 PIE Inc.
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 571
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 09:44:00 -
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 Banning Hammer wrote:True Adamance wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have.  Dude that imaginary lore is what makes this game better than any other FPS ive played. Mechanics certainly don't but the world in which we are playing this game is absolutely engrossing. The corp I am a part of is the 3rd Oldest in the history of EVE, the oldest Amarrian Corp, and a heavy RP and FW corp. One of our rules is that we only use amarrian weaponry and equipment (unless there are no racial varients available) and conduct as much of our comms in character. Thing that drew me to them was the lore, their role in EVE lore, and generally the theme behind the corp. With all respect that this guy cares and isn't one of the general DONT GIVE A CRAP Fpsers types is great. For most people Dust 514 is just a FPS ....sorry...is nothing in the game that involve you in a specific role. Find a battle, shoot few people, check you stats.. and start all over again... over, and over again. Wining or losing makes no difference, you can use any weapon and any suit you want, ISK is only useful to carry on killing things. Without a Story and PvE ... you have no way to feel proud of been Armmar or Minmatar or what ever.. Dust 514 is just a Lobby shooter... and i know you guys hate hearing this... but is the true. 
 Not for me.
 
 I work with guy fleet side in FW, so my goal is basically to win the FW matches in systems they tell me are valuable, win those, modify the ease of Complexing, then roll on in with fleet and claim the system.
 
 I can look at the star map as it changes and know that I am one of those who are changing that map Dust side and EVE side.
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        |  Garrett Blacknova
 Codex Troopers
 
 3300
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 09:58:00 -
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 Some players don't care for EVE lore, and aren't interested, and for those people, you don't need a reason beyond "it suits how I play" to use something.
 
 For someone who says THIS, however:
 
 
 Makyre Vahliha wrote:Please don't tell me, "You can play whatever suits you want" or "Be all you can be. Army." Pretty sure that's a good clue about the attitude being taken here.
 
 
 
 Amarr culture is very much an institutionalised superiority complex. Minmatar society is all about making the best use of anything they can get their hands on. Traditionally, Amarr have taken Minmatar as slaves, and the current Minmatar race is directly at war with the Amarr because of it.
 
 If you want to be a loyal Amarr-serving Minmatar, you need to be willing to accept a subservient role. If you just want a lore-accepted reason to run Amarr gear, it's reasonable to consider it stolen goods (whether by your character or someone else who sold it on). And as with any civilisation, individuals have their own ideas, so you could just take a perverse form of enjoyment from wearing the armour of your former slavers, or you might love their sense of style and not really care so much about the history behind it.
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        |  First Prophet
 Jaguar Empire
 
 525
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:00:00 -
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 Race traitor.
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        |  Eriknaught
 Vader's Taco Shack
 
 55
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:05:00 -
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 As a PROUD Minmatar Merc I will say that I will die (and respawn infinitely) before I touch ANY Amarr kitten.
 That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION.
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        |  BARDAS
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 151
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:14:00 -
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 My guy is an Amarr who uses Minmatar Scout Suits sooooooo yeah I reason it like this. My guy is a mercenary and I don't have any allegiances to anyone or anything except to my corporation that employs me and whomever pays me to fight for their cause for cold hard isk.
 
 EDIT: Also, it doesn't help there are no Amarr Scout dropsuits released.
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        |  True Adamance
 PIE Inc.
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 571
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:15:00 -
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 First Prophet wrote:Race traitor. He saw the truth.
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        |  Eriknaught
 Vader's Taco Shack
 
 55
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:19:00 -
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 Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. 
 "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr.
 That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION.
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        |  R'adeh Hunt
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 229
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:23:00 -
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 I'm Minmatar and currently use a scrambler pistol as my main gun...I feel so dirty
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        |  Kador Ouryon
 Dead Six Initiative
 Lokun Listamenn
 
 108
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:24:00 -
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 Eriknaught wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION. Return when you learn a bit about the lore of this game..... and stop being a backwards Minnie weakling.
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        |  Banning Hammer
 Tal-Romon Legion
 Amarr Empire
 
 365
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:28:00 -
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 Eriknaught wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION. 
 Amarr only by name.. What is an Amarr anyway ? where in the GAME can i check their history, believes, ideals, even how the kitten they look without the helmet.. ?
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        |  Cosgar
 ParagonX
 
 2645
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:31:00 -
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 Neko Unchained?
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        |  Eriknaught
 Vader's Taco Shack
 
 55
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:33:00 -
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 Kador Ouryon wrote:Eriknaught wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION.  Return when you learn a bit about the lore of this game..... and stop being a backwards Minnie weakling. 
 Oh I know the lore. I will hold all Amarr accountable for a near millennium of slavery and oppression. I hold NO QUARTER! There may be other Minmatar out there that aren't as hateful as I am, I accept that. I on the other hand will NOT forget the Day of Darkness.
 See you on the battlefield. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION.
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        |  KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
 Seraphim Initiative.
 CRONOS.
 
 4888
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:35:00 -
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 Amarr stuff is so damn beautiful and lasery also. I hate the culture and their practices, but I love their aesthetics.
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        |  Remm Duchax
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 72
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 10:47:00 -
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 Minmatar do really use other races gear with ease. Oh, and if we didn't choose a certain bloodline of the Minmatar you could be one of the Minmatar still part of the Amarr Empire. (Or are those too strictly enslaved?
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        |  Eriknaught
 Vader's Taco Shack
 
 56
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 11:08:00 -
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 Remm Duchax wrote:Minmatar do really use other races gear with ease. Oh, and if we didn't choose a certain bloodline of the Minmatar you could be one of the Minmatar still part of the Amarr Empire. (Or are those too strictly enslaved?    ) 
 ^This is true.
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        |  First Prophet
 Jaguar Empire
 
 530
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 11:12:00 -
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 Eriknaught wrote:Kador Ouryon wrote:Eriknaught wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION.  Return when you learn a bit about the lore of this game..... and stop being a backwards Minnie weakling. Oh I know the lore. I will hold all Amarr accountable for a near millennium of slavery and oppression. I hold NO QUARTER! There may be other Minmatar out there that aren't as hateful as I am, I accept that. I on the other hand will NOT forget the Day of Darkness.  See you on the battlefield. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. I like you a lot.
 Purge the cluster of these vile slavers.
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        |  Celeste Cyra
 Paladin Survey Force
 Amarr Empire
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 11:53:00 -
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 So would my planned mass driver, flaylock pistol, contact grenade, remote explosive abusing Amarr logi be acceptable in lore?
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        |  First Prophet
 Jaguar Empire
 
 533
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 12:05:00 -
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 Celeste Cyra wrote:So would my planned mass driver, flaylock pistol, contact grenade, remote explosive abusing Amarr logi be acceptable in lore? You'd probably be considered a heretic and forced into slavery.
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        |  True Adamance
 PIE Inc.
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 573
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.14 12:07:00 -
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 Eriknaught wrote:Kador Ouryon wrote:Eriknaught wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Who cares.. just use what ever that works. With all the nerfing and buffing, the fact that we don't have all the racial variations yet, and Dust 514 don't have any serious Role Play elements, like ; Faction Rewards, Player to Player market, Story Line, Cut-scenes, PvE... and so on ...I personally just use everything that helps me, and i don't care a donkeys ass if it fits whit the imaginary Lore, that only EvE players have. "Donkeys ass?" now your just being another asinine Amarr. Try praying praying before you speak. Dumb Amarr. That is all. Eriknaught out. Long live Dust514, o7. END TRANSMISSION.  Return when you learn a bit about the lore of this game..... and stop being a backwards Minnie weakling. Oh I know the lore. I will hold all Amarr accountable for a near millennium of slavery and oppression. I hold NO QUARTER! There may be other Minmatar out there that aren't as hateful as I am, I accept that. I on the other hand will NOT forget the Day of Darkness.  See you on the battlefield. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. 
 That I shall.
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