When the data doesnt fit your original hypothesis (OP'dness"), change it!

Bad science is bad.

LOL, facts. You started with assumptions and bias and set out to "prove" it. That is not science, and certainly not statistics.

That's funny. You see, it's people like the OP and myself that are presenting the objective facts. All you've done is blow hot air.

I stand by my numbers. I stand by his.

Hail AR 514. Go AR or go home.

please understand that you have show how many kills with each weapons.

please understand what you HAVE NOT shown is how many people were running those weapons.

please understand that I was simply trying to show you why your claim that the AR has more kills than all other weapons in the game is due to the fact that is used more frequently, vastly more frequently.

please understand that I (we?) are arguing that other weapons in the game are deemed OP because people are able to generate extremely high kill to death ratios when using those weapons and they create an imbalance.

Except this is what 30 matches for him? 8 for my data, and even a nice donation of PC stats. All confirm the same thing. AR is killing diversity.

Look at the scrambler rifle - 10 times as many people use the AR as scrambler rifle. lol! and the AR isn't OP, nope.

Here, I can do the wikipedia link too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial


Bottom line. Don't call it OP if you can't stomach the truth, but the numbers don't lie. The weapon is a huge problem for diversity in the game, and this diversity issue needs to be addressed ASAP.

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lol. keep defending your AR OP EZ mode please.

Listen. The stats don't lie.

The AR is a problem, it's used 10 times more than a supposedly similar weapon, the SR.

All this data shows is that the AR is dominating the game, and all that time the devs spend on other weapons is wasted. That sounds like a problem to me, but just in case you need more detail:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=92678

Also, he definitely has enough data here to reach statistical significance.

Toss out OP, and you still have a huge problem. Accept the truth, and it's the biggest weapon related problem in the game. Again though, I know I'm a dissenting voice because I'm not one of the 75% relying on the crutch of the AR.

Fact: The AR kills more than any other weapon. It's equivalent, or nearly so, the the bottom 10 or 12 light/sidearm weapons combined.

Possible Conclusions:

A) The vast majority (maybe like 75%) of the playerbase uses the AR, but the kill with it less often than other players kill with other weapons.

B) Something like 50% use it and kill at an average rate compared to other weapons.

C) Less than 50% use it, but kill with greater frequency than other players.


QED

Please understand, the biggest imbalance in the game is AR overusage.

Buster just stop. You have proven yourself to not have the intellect necessary to properly perform a study and use the data given to reach a conclusion that is appropriate based on the method of your data capture.

You have failed.......badly.

Your logic does not follow.

I am a scrmb rifle user and I can tell you the scrambler beats out the AR anyday of the week. You can foolishly continue on trying to prove that your horribly run study actually proves a weapon has OP status but you will only convince the idiots on the forums of this. Anyone with a brain will understand immediately that your study is flawed.

That's funny. You see, it's people like the OP and myself that are presenting the objective facts. Incidentally, your hypothetical was scenario A, but I like how you can't bring yourself to admit it, or to understand that those three scenarios are the only possible conclusions from the data, and they're all bad. All you've done is blow hot air.

I stand by my numbers. I stand by his.

Hail AR 514. Go AR or go home.

Like I said. I understand that I'm a dissenting voice. I don't expect to be accepted.

The facts are the facts though.

Hail AR 514.

Hehe yeah, love me stats too but god damn it gets dull just reading the kill feed and counting! The analyses are the fun part :)

Like I said. I understand that I'm a dissenting voice. I don't expect to be accepted.

The facts are the facts though.

Hail AR 514.

Like I said. I understand that I'm a dissenting voice. I don't expect to be accepted.

The facts are the facts though.

Hail AR 514.

Like I said. I understand that I'm a dissenting voice. I don't expect to be accepted.

The facts are the facts though.

Hail AR 514.

Django, you've done our community a great service by attempting to provide objective statistical data for fair minded analysis. Thank you. Your efforts should be recognized, if not rewarded.

And while I agree that it is likely CCP gathers and maybe even tracks this kind of information, the fact that they choose not to publish or share it as the basis for reasonable discussion and transparency with the player base only serves to keep opinions, hyperbole and emotionally charged rhetoric as the guiding force behind player feedback.

You say you included the third data set, but you failed to include the 50 flux grenade kills.

Link to thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=95744

Edit: As I stated before, you are not recording enough matches to have enough data to record accurate stats here.
10 games out of thousands is not enough

nice stats...

But honest, this either the worst excuse to cover up AFK MCC camping, or you just have WAY TO MUCH time on your hands...

It's summer, might I suggest you go out side or perhaps...

Get a fking job, you tramp.

Thank you for telling me the mean, median and mode of the the analysis.

How bout you tell me the power of the study, how about whether or not your conclusions should lead me to accept or reject the null hypothesis, what bout that alpha and the beta of the study. When you are done doing these basic parameters would you gauge your analysis as a retrospective or prospective and what will you use cohort or case control analysis meaning is this subject to an odds ratio, chi square, weighted t-test, maybe an anova?

All you have shown is that the AR is the most widely seen weapon on the killfeed, this actually tells us nothing on wheter or not its actually the most widely used weapon in the game. Logi LAVs could in fact be the most used weapon in the game, or Remotes or Even Scramblers, it doesnt take into any account dmg done over time by all other weaponry it doesnt even tell us wheter those AR kills were from pure AR dmg or a stolen kill.

Even if it did, its still based off of pub data which is a whole other set of fail.

Please stop or dont and allow us to continue to point and laugh at you.

I wish to completely distance myself from Buster's comments in this thread, as they do not reflect my own views or conclusions.

The purpose of this data was never to show that anything was OP or not and I don't believe any of this data alone could possibly show this. It is quite obvious that the AR is the most used weapon and gets the most kills - that does not infer it is OP. Likelihood is that many people use it because it is the most familiar weapon to them after playing other FPSs.

My point was only ever to provide some data. I was a little irked by a few people recently publishing lists of the weapons that kill them over a number of games because these all relied on a single player's playstyle - this data is a generalised version of those attempts and no one else has provided this information previously.

I realise my dataset is limited but I will continue to expand it over time. 30 matches and thousands of kills is a good start. The reason I don't have those 50 flux grenade kills is that none of those happened in any of the matches I happened to be watching - i.e. I can't collect data for things I don't observe.

Heh, yes, this does mean I spend a few hours doing nothing in MCCs but damn it's frustrating and dull. I sometimes wish I could go down and help out, especially when I can see on the map exactly where that sniper on the killstreak is hiding or when I know I could get that LLAV buzzing around murder-taxiing everyone but I resist, so that I in no way skew the results. If I was playing, you'd see a lot more pistol kills. But it is boring and I don't get to do anything else whilst doing it because I literally have to be watching the killfeed the entire game or I miss stuff - it's hard as it is when there's 5+ deaths within seconds and I have to mark them down before they disappear because only the last 3 show at once.

I've been unemployed for well over a year now and have been desperately seeking work, whilst doing my own games design projects. Fortunately, I have an interview tomorrow and another 2 on Wednesday, so I won't be in this state much longer (fingers crossed). I hate feeling like a bum :(

I think you may be underestimating our noob community. Put a few monkeys with typewriters together and they will "eventually" write the Iliad. Simple probability.

AFKing has gone down sharply in the past few days, so I wouldn't put much stock in that either.

We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the complete works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true.

Robert Wilensky

87.3% of all stats are false.

In your general pub flaylocks won't appear to frequently simply because the majority of players are not skilled into it. Watch any pc battle and fused/flaylock central begins.