DUST Search - tactics for destroy logi lav's?

ZDub 303 wrote:

The Robot Devil wrote:

1 merc with a PC , 1 with MD, 2 AR, 1 scram and a shot gun. All carry prox mines and then half carry flux while the other carry AV grenades. Find a choke point with high traffic (a wall is a plus) and have the entire squad mine the path. If you have a wall put all this mines in front of the wall. PC stands in the mine field or in front of the wall. Split the flux and AV so they can hit the lav from both sides. Wait. When the lav approaches start shooting it with the plasma cannon.

The PC will signal the lav that the PC merc is ready to die and start heading your way. Right before the the lav gets close to the plasma cannon start throwing flux and and MD rounds then as the lab gets closer throw av. The prox should finish off the lav considering there will be almost 20 on the field. The AR/scram mercs should be providing cover fire.

If the merc jumps out go to work with the shot and AR/scram. The shotty is for cqc squad protection, MD is for spreading out the heard and vehicle DPS and the three assault mercs are form mop up and suppression. This squad working together and communicating should wipe out any lav.

6 people to take out an LAV...

Leaving the other 10 in your team to deal with the other 15 on his team.

I know this was a sarcasm post but damn its so freaking true.

I really hope CCP puts out a fix for LLAVs soon.

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calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 468	Posted - 2013.07.09 12:38:00 - [1] - Quote so while we wait for the militia lav's to get nerfed I'm curious how you guys kill these things? so far for my squads, a high end blaster tank and a high forge gun has been the only reliable way to kill these things. swarms have proved utterly useless, av grenade are about the same. so how do you guys deal with them?
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 215	Posted - 2013.07.09 12:44:00 - [2] - Quote I don't... every time i see one, i go to a hill in the red-line, and have a lovely Picnic ( FREE LAV's with cheese )
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 912	Posted - 2013.07.09 12:46:00 - [3] - Quote Honestly? I just stand on something that cant drive on and take pot shots at the driver with my rifle until he gets scared and runs away Only works for like 20 seconds though til he comes back around
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us ROFL BROS 265	Posted - 2013.07.09 12:56:00 - [4] - Quote super prox trap 4 basic proxes + 4 advanced proxes + 4 proto proxes boom
Beld Errmon D3M3NT3D M1NDZ Orion Empire 694	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:05:00 - [5] - Quote Running them over with a tank works well, karma smiles upon you. Elevated position protoswarms. Rail tank with a good gun and nack for predictive firing.
JF duBre 1st SPECTRES Combat Group 0	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:07:00 - [6] - Quote CCP should change that there are no more infinite LAV available ... and then make them more expensive and that's it :)
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 468	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:08:00 - [7] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: I don't... every time i see one, i go to a hill in the red-line, and have a lovely Picnic ( FREE LAV's with cheese ) ya my general tactic is similar to this, I just stand on something unless we have a solid HAV in the squad.
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL EoN. 11	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:09:00 - [8] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: super prox trap 4 basic proxes + 4 advanced proxes + 4 proto proxes boom Unless the driver sees the proxies, stops the car, and shoots them with his turret. The easiest way is to shoot out the driver with a blaster from an LAV or tank. Seems like it is all too easy to die from blaster turret splash damage ever since 1.2 was implemented. Infantry weapon splash damage has little effect.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 468	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:10:00 - [9] - Quote JF duBre wrote: CCP should change that there are no more infinite LAV available ... and then make them more expensive and that's it :) logi lav's and free lav's are like comparing the hulk to kickass.
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 204	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:10:00 - [10] - Quote While its not that effective, I like to call in my free militia LAV and try to trap him in some kind of crevice or against a wall, then shoot him out of his seat. Flipping them upside down is probably the hardest thing to do thanks to CCP putting in a stupid auto correcting gyroscope into the LAV.

Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 122	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:11:00 - [11] - Quote The only time I've killed one was when it drove over my poxy mines, did a flip, got stuck between a wall and a building and was finished off by my swarms hitting its underside.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 468	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:16:00 - [12] - Quote Spademan wrote: The only time I've killed one was when it drove over my poxy mines, did a flip, got stuck between a wall and a building and was finished off by my swarms hitting its underside. I blew up two yesterday in one match, but in both cases the driver was not in the vehicle at the time, he got out to chase some guy down so while he wasn't home I pounded it with 6 avanced swarm shots with 4 damage mods, and 3 advanced av grenades then dropped a nano hive and hit it with 2 more grenades to finish it off.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 544	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:19:00 - [13] - Quote 1 merc with a PC , 1 with MD, 2 AR, 1 scram and a shot gun. All carry prox mines and then half carry flux while the other carry AV grenades. Find a choke point with high traffic (a wall is a plus) and have the entire squad mine the path. If you have a wall put all this mines in front of the wall. PC stands in the mine field or in front of the wall. Split the flux and AV so they can hit the lav from both sides. Wait. When the lav approaches start shooting it with the plasma cannon. The PC will signal the lav that the PC merc is ready to die and start heading your way. Right before the the lav gets close to the plasma cannon start throwing flux and and MD rounds then as the lab gets closer throw av. The prox should finish off the lav considering there will be almost 20 on the field. The AR/scram mercs should be providing cover fire. If the merc jumps out go to work with the shot and AR/scram. The shotty is for cqc squad protection, MD is for spreading out the heard and vehicle DPS and the three assault mercs are form mop up and suppression. This squad working together and communicating should wipe out any lav.
oso tiburon The Generals EoN. 107	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:21:00 - [14] - Quote calisk galern wrote: so while we wait for the militia lav's to get nerfed I'm curious how you guys kill these things? so far for my squads, a high end blaster tank and a high forge gun has been the only reliable way to kill these things. swarms have proved utterly useless, av grenade are about the same. so how do you guys deal with them? ram with cheap lav jump before impact forgegun to face profit killed 30 yesterday
Soldiersaint Reaper Galactic 73	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:24:00 - [15] - Quote calisk galern wrote: so while we wait for the militia lav's to get nerfed I'm curious how you guys kill these things? so far for my squads, a high end blaster tank and a high forge gun has been the only reliable way to kill these things. swarms have proved utterly useless, av grenade are about the same. so how do you guys deal with them? Use swarm launchers. we will either run away or smash you to pieces
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us ROFL BROS 266	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:32:00 - [16] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Chances Ghost wrote: super prox trap 4 basic proxes + 4 advanced proxes + 4 proto proxes boom Unless the driver sees the proxies, stops the car, and shoots them with his turret. The easiest way is to shoot out the driver with a blaster from an LAV or tank. Seems like it is all too easy to die from blaster turret splash damage ever since 1.2 was implemented. Infantry weapon splash damage has little effect. wich is alot easyer when they switch to their turret to destroy the proxes or turn around and dont enter that area win, win, win
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 470	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:42:00 - [17] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: Chances Ghost wrote: super prox trap 4 basic proxes + 4 advanced proxes + 4 proto proxes boom Unless the driver sees the proxies, stops the car, and shoots them with his turret. The easiest way is to shoot out the driver with a blaster from an LAV or tank. Seems like it is all too easy to die from blaster turret splash damage ever since 1.2 was implemented. Infantry weapon splash damage has little effect. wich is alot easyer when they switch to their turret to destroy the proxes or turn around and dont enter that area win, win, win ya I shoot gunners off those turrets while they are moving full speed, it's fun =). if they are standing still they may as well be wearing a shoot me sign.
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 218	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:49:00 - [18] - Quote Plasma Cannons and swarms.
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1302	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:52:00 - [19] - Quote forge gun, multiple AV grenades, help, balls, and a little bit of luck
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 711	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:53:00 - [20] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: 1 merc with a PC , 1 with MD, 2 AR, 1 scram and a shot gun. All carry prox mines and then half carry flux while the other carry AV grenades. Find a choke point with high traffic (a wall is a plus) and have the entire squad mine the path. If you have a wall put all this mines in front of the wall. PC stands in the mine field or in front of the wall. Split the flux and AV so they can hit the lav from both sides. Wait. When the lav approaches start shooting it with the plasma cannon. The PC will signal the lav that the PC merc is ready to die and start heading your way. Right before the the lav gets close to the plasma cannon start throwing flux and and MD rounds then as the lab gets closer throw av. The prox should finish off the lav considering there will be almost 20 on the field. The AR/scram mercs should be providing cover fire. If the merc jumps out go to work with the shot and AR/scram. The shotty is for cqc squad protection, MD is for spreading out the heard and vehicle DPS and the three assault mercs are form mop up and suppression. This squad working together and communicating should wipe out any lav. 6 people to take out an LAV... Leaving the other 10 in your team to deal with the other 15 on his team. I know this was a sarcasm post but damn its so freaking true. I really hope CCP puts out a fix for LLAVs soon.

Chances Ghost Inf4m0us ROFL BROS 267	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:55:00 - [21] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: 1 merc with a PC , 1 with MD, 2 AR, 1 scram and a shot gun. All carry prox mines and then half carry flux while the other carry AV grenades. Find a choke point with high traffic (a wall is a plus) and have the entire squad mine the path. If you have a wall put all this mines in front of the wall. PC stands in the mine field or in front of the wall. Split the flux and AV so they can hit the lav from both sides. Wait. When the lav approaches start shooting it with the plasma cannon. The PC will signal the lav that the PC merc is ready to die and start heading your way. Right before the the lav gets close to the plasma cannon start throwing flux and and MD rounds then as the lab gets closer throw av. The prox should finish off the lav considering there will be almost 20 on the field. The AR/scram mercs should be providing cover fire. If the merc jumps out go to work with the shot and AR/scram. The shotty is for cqc squad protection, MD is for spreading out the heard and vehicle DPS and the three assault mercs are form mop up and suppression. This squad working together and communicating should wipe out any lav. 6 people to take out an LAV... Leaving the other 10 in your team to deal with the other 15 on his team. I know this was a sarcasm post but damn its so freaking true. I really hope CCP puts out a fix for LLAVs soon. you act like they are A) not anywhere near an objective and therefore not doubling as a defence force B) ignoring every other red that walks near them
negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 58	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:56:00 - [22] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Spademan wrote: The only time I've killed one was when it drove over my poxy mines, did a flip, got stuck between a wall and a building and was finished off by my swarms hitting its underside. I blew up two yesterday in one match, but in both cases the driver was not in the vehicle at the time, he got out to chase some guy down so while he wasn't home I pounded it with 6 avanced swarm shots with 4 damage mods, and 3 advanced av grenades then dropped a nano hive and hit it with 2 more grenades to finish it off. see this is prove it take too much to destroy one
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 914	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:57:00 - [23] - Quote negative49er wrote: calisk galern wrote: Spademan wrote: The only time I've killed one was when it drove over my poxy mines, did a flip, got stuck between a wall and a building and was finished off by my swarms hitting its underside. I blew up two yesterday in one match, but in both cases the driver was not in the vehicle at the time, he got out to chase some guy down so while he wasn't home I pounded it with 6 avanced swarm shots with 4 damage mods, and 3 advanced av grenades then dropped a nano hive and hit it with 2 more grenades to finish it off. see this is prove it take too much to destroy one Indeed, Ive taken out tanks using less ordinance
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 711	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:57:00 - [24] - Quote negative49er wrote: calisk galern wrote: Spademan wrote: The only time I've killed one was when it drove over my poxy mines, did a flip, got stuck between a wall and a building and was finished off by my swarms hitting its underside. I blew up two yesterday in one match, but in both cases the driver was not in the vehicle at the time, he got out to chase some guy down so while he wasn't home I pounded it with 6 avanced swarm shots with 4 damage mods, and 3 advanced av grenades then dropped a nano hive and hit it with 2 more grenades to finish it off. see this is prove it take too much to destroy one It takes 3 lai dai packed and 2 ex-o nades to finish off a poorly fit stationary charybdis... pretty stupid tbh. They must have something like a 40-50% resistance to explosives.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us ROFL BROS 267	Posted - 2013.07.09 14:03:00 - [25] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: negative49er wrote: calisk galern wrote: Spademan wrote: The only time I've killed one was when it drove over my poxy mines, did a flip, got stuck between a wall and a building and was finished off by my swarms hitting its underside. I blew up two yesterday in one match, but in both cases the driver was not in the vehicle at the time, he got out to chase some guy down so while he wasn't home I pounded it with 6 avanced swarm shots with 4 damage mods, and 3 advanced av grenades then dropped a nano hive and hit it with 2 more grenades to finish it off. see this is prove it take too much to destroy one It takes 3 lai dai packed and 2 ex-o nades to finish off a poorly fit stationary charybdis... pretty stupid tbh. They must have something like a 40-50% resistance to explosives. We're talking 1760 * 3 + 1260 * 2 = 7800 direct damage on a vehicle with ~3000 shields and ~1000 armor. Yup... right about 50% resistance then. my charb has a statis 50% resistance on my shields alone, not counting the explosive resistance, so yes, they do indeed have 50% + resistance
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 550	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:28:00 - [26] - Quote The major goal of the squad is to stop an lav horde more than it is to stop one lav. 2 good mercs with av should be able to take out one lav but as soon as two or three are on the field they become hard to deal with. This is a specialized team made to hit av fast and hard. It will work on tanks if the wall is removed but murder taxis love walls. If all the suits are logi then there will be plenty of room for all the logi tools and still be an effective av squad.
Pro'fane RestlessSpirits 8	Posted - 2013.07.11 22:55:00 - [27] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Spademan wrote: The only time I've killed one was when it drove over my poxy mines, did a flip, got stuck between a wall and a building and was finished off by my swarms hitting its underside. I blew up two yesterday in one match, but in both cases the driver was not in the vehicle at the time, he got out to chase some guy down so while he wasn't home I pounded it with 6 avanced swarm shots with 4 damage mods, and 3 advanced av grenades then dropped a nano hive and hit it with 2 more grenades to finish it off. Jeez. Shouldn't take that much. >_< Best way: get a logi dropship with advanced or proto ion turrets (I don't know what they were, I was just a gunner), shoot the driver. Works really, really well.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 452	Posted - 2013.07.11 23:03:00 - [28] - Quote calisk galern wrote: so while we wait for the militia lav's to get nerfed I'm curious how you guys kill Logi lav's? so far for my squads, a high end blaster tank and a high forge gun has been the only reliable way to kill these things. swarms have proved utterly useless, av grenade are about the same. so how do you guys deal with them? ion cannon or ramming. works most of the time.
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 168	Posted - 2013.07.11 23:48:00 - [29] - Quote AV nades are EXPLOSIVE most LLAVs are SHIELD TANKS how fcuking stupid do you have to be to not understand why it takes so many hits. USE FLUX A single flux to a shield tank LLAV CUTS. IT. IN. HALF It takes two Lai dai av nades to take out an armor LLAV this whole thread is a bunch of whiners comparing apples and oranges, two different things
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 673	Posted - 2013.07.11 23:49:00 - [30] - Quote Getting really lucky and 4-5 Lai Dai AV nades.

Cy Clone1 Kinsho Swords Caldari State 108	Posted - 2013.07.11 23:56:00 - [31] - Quote any small blaster turret. works best for the air, but you can shoot people out so quickly
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 258	Posted - 2013.07.12 00:12:00 - [32] - Quote Me? I Run and Hid and ask for forgiveness from the LAV for shooting it and its friends. Then it Humms at me and bumps me at .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 MPH and I die. Then I just Hid In the MCC rocking Back in forth over the Psychological Trauma. That's my Contingency Plan for LAVs That, and Getting my own LAV and going Kamikaze.
Enderr Wigginn KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 133	Posted - 2013.07.12 00:14:00 - [33] - Quote I bust out the proto forge but the secret is to wait for them to mess up and get stuck or flip over then pound 3 to 4 shots right into them. I have also found a proto forge and missile launcher is effective because getting the 3rd and 4th hit with the forge can be tough sometimes.
Alldin Kan Internal Error. League of Infamy 380	Posted - 2013.07.12 00:16:00 - [34] - Quote Scrambler pistol to the head always gets the job done, unless the driver is a Heavy.
Aquinarius Zoltanus 0uter.Heaven 162	Posted - 2013.07.12 00:29:00 - [35] - Quote Turn the game off. See? No more LLAVs.
DumpsterJuice Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 48	Posted - 2013.07.12 00:32:00 - [36] - Quote You all lie, the capability to destroy the logistics LAV is a myth.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 80	Posted - 2013.07.12 00:33:00 - [37] - Quote proto flux + swarms the hard part is landing the perfect flux
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2612	Posted - 2013.07.12 00:51:00 - [38] - Quote Dropship, shoot out the driver with either a proto blaster or missile turret then finish off the LLAV.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 455	Posted - 2013.07.12 02:02:00 - [39] - Quote DumpsterJuice wrote: You all lie, the capability to destroy the logistics LAV is a myth. i killed 7 in an ambush with my tank. obviously, there is a counter. the secret is that only tankers have pimped out llavs so there is no way in hell we're gonna be there to counter them for you. It's a conspiracy we have to troll the infantry for nerfing tanks.
Void Echo Internal Error. League of Infamy 506	Posted - 2013.07.12 02:13:00 - [40] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Running them over with a tank works well, karma smiles upon you. Elevated position protoswarms. Rail tank with a good gun and nack for predictive firing. yeah, I kill a lot of LAVs stupid enough to drive right in front of me

Void Echo Internal Error. League of Infamy 507	Posted - 2013.07.12 02:16:00 - [41] - Quote DumpsterJuice wrote: You all lie, the capability to destroy the logistics LAV is a myth. its never a myth for tank drivers
Pro'fane RestlessSpirits 8	Posted - 2013.07.12 02:20:00 - [42] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: AV nades are EXPLOSIVE most LLAVs are SHIELD TANKS how fcuking stupid do you have to be to not understand why it takes so many hits. USE FLUX A single flux to a shield tank LLAV CUTS. IT. IN. HALF It takes two Lai dai av nades to take out an armor LLAV this whole thread is a bunch of whiners comparing apples and oranges, two different things No, it's a bug. It's one thing for them to not take the shield all the way off. It's another when it doesn't do a single bit of damage, and another when the grenade doesn't even home in (despite making physical contact with the LAV). Truthfully, they ought to just get rid of the insane impact damage. That'd fix the issue. Make the impact low enough that it can kill already damaged infantry, but not infantry with full shields and armor. If I want to play GTA, I'll play GTA.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 455	Posted - 2013.07.12 02:26:00 - [43] - Quote Void Echo wrote: DumpsterJuice wrote: You all lie, the capability to destroy the logistics LAV is a myth. its never a myth for tank drivers LAV driver know tankers are the most dangerous things on the battlefield.


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