Pve is for people who can only handle predictable repetitive tactics and strategy, it's really that simple.

No actually your being moronic, im just stating that for someone who is PvP oriented destiny is a no go, if people prefer PvP then obviously there's no fun in a pve game.

This game was going to die when The Last of Us was released.

Still here.

If borderlands and halo had a baby.

I agree that the Last of Us is amazing. However I could never see how a 3rd person shooter woudl completely kill a FPS even if the FPS was really bad (like dust). Numbers are still falling for dust dont let the server numbers fool you as they added Eve and Dust together to mask the actual dust numbers. That being said I am going to wait until Destiny is closer to coming out before I make any decision but it looked awesome at E3.....and even if its not PvP may still be worth getting.

Cool bit of conjecture, anyway regardless of all that's been said, this is just a reality check on how destiny is purely pve, keep bumping my thread, thank you and goodbye :-)

"Reality check on the joke that is going to best destiny"

This thread reminds me of all the kiddies that used to say "Global Agenda isn't dying" all the way up until half a year AFTER the developer had stopped supporting the game.

I used to drop into the community with the sole purpose of having a quiet chuckle at how deep in denial the tiny group of hangers-on were. That wasn't the first game I did that with, wasn't the last either, and if Dust's current direction is any indication..... I'll still have many opportunities for quiet chuckles in the future......

This thread reminds me of all the kiddies that used to say "Global Agenda isn't dying" all the way up until half a year AFTER the developer had stopped supporting the game.

I used to drop into the community with the sole purpose of having a quiet chuckle at how deep in denial the tiny group of hangers-on were. That wasn't the first game I did that with, wasn't the last either, and if Dust's current direction is any indication..... I'll still have many opportunities for quiet chuckles in the future......

What do you call Dust?

It's been well known it was PvE and not a PvP game. Doesn't change anything.

When you think about it, they probably wouldn't want to go stepping on Halo's toes by putting the focus on PvP, nevermind competitive PvP, with Destiny.

Better to appeal to the larger crowd of gamers through Destiny by just making it enjoyable, and leave the actual PvP that matters to the Halo franchise.

Bungie has announced that PvP won't ever be a factor although competitiveness through pve will be encourage.
There's only 3 classes with limited spells.

So basically it's a pve heroes dream, it's pointless, un challenging and no competition. Just the same old grinding rubbish with nice graphics. If your a competitive PvP type gamer then this game is absolutely 100% not for you,

This thread reminds me of all the kiddies that used to say "Global Agenda isn't dying" all the way up until half a year AFTER the developer had stopped supporting the game.

I used to drop into the community with the sole purpose of having a quiet chuckle at how deep in denial the tiny group of hangers-on were. That wasn't the first game I did that with, wasn't the last either, and if Dust's current direction is any indication..... I'll still have many opportunities for quiet chuckles in the future......

Bungie has announced that PvP won't ever be a factor although competitiveness through pve will be encourage.
There's only 3 classes with limited spells.

So basically it's a pve heroes dream, it's pointless, un challenging and no competition. Just the same old grinding rubbish with nice graphics. If your a competitive PvP type gamer then this game is absolutely 100% not for you,

When the developers of the the recent Halo's and Call of Duty were making this game, i knew it would be a completely flop. They are masters at building a ton of hype that idiotic little kids buy into, but i have known better since halo 3, and call of duty 4.

I agree that the Last of Us is amazing. However I could never see how a 3rd person shooter woudl completely kill a FPS even if the FPS was really bad (like dust). Numbers are still falling for dust dont let the server numbers fool you as they added Eve and Dust together to mask the actual dust numbers. That being said I am going to wait until Destiny is closer to coming out before I make any decision but it looked awesome at E3.....and even if its not PvP may still be worth getting.

Destiny will be fun, but it will still be one of those loot-based FPSs with limited abilities and the only thing pushing you forward is the hope of finding a better gun, which will soon become useless as you level up a couple more times. There will be $15 expansions if you wish to continue seeking more guns to take down the bad guys, then in a couple years a $60 sequel.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy games like what Destiny appears to be, but it is no substitute for what Dust is working towards.

What do you call Dust?

H-Hour, that's how.

Lets face it the truest of truest shooter fans all have a link back to Socom 1 and Socom 2.

No actually your being moronic, im just stating that for someone who is PvP oriented destiny is a no go, if people prefer PvP then obviously there's no fun in a pve game.

Erhm, Halo 3 was Bungie's eff you to MS since they were locked into project and a contract they just didn't want.


The originators of COD are making Titanfall and that game is indeed looking better and better.

Titanfall is also a great example of how Activision can't actually develop anything truly new. They say that they are starting from scratch, when if you watch gameplay it's obvious they are still using repeated textures used in call of duty, the environment even practically looks the same as a CoD game when you watch the gameplay. That's the thing about bungie and Activision, they claim they are the innovative force in the gaming industry, when in-fact they are one of the least innovative in the entire business. And Halo 3 wasn't the only error in Bungie's long list, you also have Halo Wars (just a typical strategy game with halo slapped on the name), ODST (should have just been a simple dlc), and even movies made after Halo. They profited on the fact they could keep repeating the same **** over and over again and people would buy it. Same thing happened with Call of Duty. It doesn't take much to keep repeating the same thing that gives you easy profit, but it's a whole new ball game when you decide to truly innovate every title you release.

That page doesn't exist >.>

I've read numerous times it does have PvP, but if it doesn't, who cares? You don't have to be competitive.

This page however, does exist, and mentions competitive MP.

http://www.giantbomb.com/destiny/3030-36067/

I'm honestly starting to think you're like those kids on COD who think they're all BA. What happened to gaming? Why are there so many people who were called nerds for playing games, but then when all this competitive military FPS crap came out, everyone loves gaming?

Titanfall is also a great example of how Activision can't actually develop anything truly new. They say that they are starting from scratch, when if you watch gameplay it's obvious they are still using repeated textures used in call of duty, the environment even practically looks the same as a CoD game when you watch the gameplay. That's the thing about bungie and Activision, they claim they are the innovative force in the gaming industry, when in-fact they are one of the least innovative in the entire business. And Halo 3 wasn't the only error in Bungie's long list, you also have Halo Wars (just a typical strategy game with halo slapped on the name), ODST (should have just been a simple dlc), and even movies made after Halo. They profited on the fact they could keep repeating the same **** over and over again and people would buy it. Same thing happened with Call of Duty. It doesn't take much to keep repeating the same thing that gives you easy profit, but it's a whole new ball game when you decide to truly innovate every title you release.

Yeah, I mean, it's going to be a great game. PvP doesn't really matter that much. Not every game has to be competitive...

Destiny won't be open world either, but it will be very open with different places to go to.

. If your a competitive PvP type gamer then this game is absolutely 100% not for you,

Bungie has announced that PvP won't ever be a factor although competitiveness through pve will be encourage.
There's only 3 classes with limited spells.

So basically it's a pve heroes dream, it's pointless, un challenging and no competition. Just the same old grinding rubbish with nice graphics. If your a competitive PvP type gamer then this game is absolutely 100% not for you,

Pvp is and always will be for jerks who like to boost there ego....pve is for people who like to actually plays games and have fun not treat it like it some stupid sport

At least preface that saying a section or subsection - even if you are tollish say a vast majority.

Until AI is such that PVE can offer a varied enough experience to "fool" a certain section of the public, they will always prefer PVP

Also there is nothing wrong with competition, it can bring out good as it does bad.

Some PVE can be fun and who prefer that play it but others like knowing and experiencing unpredictability and sometimes a known predictability.

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WTF are you talking about Dust is going in the right direction now for the long term

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OP is a bad troll, PVP is in the game, he's just mad Destiny will ALSO have PVE before DUST.

I like a challeng, pve offers no challenge, don't tell me to gtfo for expressing my opinion, check for yourself, in on s touchscreen phone and it's awkward to even type. Again thanks for bumping my thread :-)

Google Destiny game PvP and you'll find your source.

One of things that we love to say about Destiny is that is has activities for your every mood. Competitive Multiplayer will absolutely be one of them. Like you, I was a digital warrior in all the Halo games. ItGÇÖs why I have my job. IGÇÖm loving the way multiplayer is shaping up in Destiny. Joining a Fireteam to reconquer our solar system with your friends will be fun, but so will battling your fellow Guardians for glory.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/07/03/destiny-e3-hd-gameplay-revealed/

Now... Shutup. You have your damn PvP.

Seriously would appreciate it if you shut up assuming things about me, assumptions are the sign of a small mind, anyone with any kind of half decent education knows this and don't be forgetting we're on a forum for a game right? Yet you seem to have some opinions of me, im sorry but who the f**k are you exactly? Lol get the picture?

If destiny does have some kind of persistent PvP I'll eat my hat and play it but as it stands at most it will be a few maps or horde mode and maybe duels.

Yes the whole 4-5 hour long games have put me off single player modes completely now, it's just like a really short film that's far too easy so for me the actual challenging gaming part rarely exists anymore, I'm going to try last of us but it looks fat to dramatical and I felt like cringing when I saw the advert, it was far too touching it sermed

Yes the whole 4-5 hour long games have put me off single player modes completely now, it's just like a really short film that's far too easy so for me the actual challenging gaming part rarely exists anymore, I'm going to try last of us but it looks fat to dramatical and I felt like cringing when I saw the advert, it was far too touching it sermed

It is better to cooperate than it is to compete.

Just imagine what life in general would look like today if people worked together instead of against each other.

We'd probably have Mars colonized already.

But instead we compete and waste money making huge bombs, airplanes and tanks, etc. Just to try to be better than the other guy and using violence as the means to prove it.

Co-op is better for your soul.

Seriously, if America didn't have to worry about spending on military to "defend itself".
What would it be spending that money on instead? Advancing mankind.

Nukes do not advance mankind.
Jet Fighters do not advance mankind.
Aircraft Carriers do not advance mankind.
Submarines, Destroyers, Guns, Bullets, Spying, Intelligence Agencies.

Seeing as how gaming is a direct line of communication to future generations (gaming is basically the babysitter of future generations).
It's the best place to start on the notion of cooperation rather than competition.

Life isn't fair....
You know why?

Because you've all been raised up to be pricks.
Because you follow this....
"He who dies with the most toys, wins"

Nothing could be further from the truth.

But are the Americans the only ones at fault, people won't abandon those notions they're too deeply ingrained into our culture look nobody is fully right. This isn't just do what I say and the world will be butterfies and flowers.

I'm not saying it's just FPS. I've always preferred playing alone than against people. I like stories, that's why I like RPGs so much. You'll find that's how it was mostly. Then it seems, here comes 2007. Modern Warfare, what's single player?

SP has been screwed over by so many games lately for multiplayer, I think there needs to be more single player games, and not 4-5 hour things like COD or BF.

And maybe Iron Wolf... maybe.

I've played a LOT of RPGs. The best one always had pvp or pvevp as the endgame.

Why spend x amount of hours training your skills to max? To take one the hardest monsters? Any smart player will beat monters 2-3 levels ahead of them anyways. Once you max, other maxed players are the only way to test your skill. Horde mechanics are fun but my team even got bored with those quick. The equation is pretty easy to figure out. You know what's fun? Trying to take a horde from another group of players. Some of us made a RL living off of it and still occasionally failed. Real players are the only competition for some of us.

Btw, this isn't new. I was doing this in 2001

I've played a LOT of RPGs. The best one always had pvp or pvevp as the endgame.

Why spend x amount of hours training your skills to max? To take one the hardest monsters? Any smart player will beat monters 2-3 levels ahead of them anyways. Once you max, other maxed players are the only way to test your skill. Horde mechanics are fun but my team even got bored with those quick. The equation is pretty easy to figure out. You know what's fun? Trying to take a horde from another group of players. Some of us made a RL living off of it and still occasionally failed. Real players are the only competition for some of us.

Btw, this isn't new. I was doing this in 2001