Hey Cubs send me a few dozen million pl0x.


I'm down to only $30 mill, and man, the struggle is real.

Besides the heavy stench of scam I smell in this thread, PC isn't even worth it in Dust's current state. To all players and corps who have any interest, do you hate the whole FotM thing that goes around in public matches? From the TARs to the LLAVs to the godlocks. Now imagine that times 1000 and you have PC.

Best to stay out of it until CCP manages to achieve some level of balance.

It's not a scam, EON. just want renters, similar to the pets that LoI recently picked up (PHI, War Ravens, 187.). They don't want the responsibility of holding on to as much of Molden Heath as they took, and they'd like to turn a bit of a profit as they rid themselves of these districts.

It's not precisely a "bad" deal if you just want to see your name on the map, but they're fishing for parties here. Fact of the matter is that there are very few organizations left that want any part of the PC landscape.

Granted it could also be a scam, mind, but I doubt it.

you have obviously not been in a PC match... the LAV spam is not a part of PC... its skirmish, and indycar tryouts don't hack you the points..

I'm not saying that the particular FotM from public matches occur in PC, what I am saying is that there is a FotM for PC as well but to a further extreme and only a couple viable ways to really compete in it.

you have obviously not been in a PC match... the LAV spam is not a part of PC... its skirmish, and indycar tryouts don't hack you the points..

It's true there are much fewer LAVs in PC. But there is so much tank spam, it gets crazy to see all those tanks running around. I do like that tanks are good for the clone count but destroy profitability, just wish the money side played more of a role to prevent over tanking.

The biggest complaint with PC is lag and DCs. Honestly you win partially by strategy and skill and other part hoping you get less DCs and get less lag.

Besides the heavy stench of scam I smell in this thread, PC isn't even worth it in Dust's current state. To all players and corps who have any interest, do you hate the whole FotM thing that goes around in public matches? From the TARs to the LLAVs to the godlocks. Now imagine that times 1000 and you have PC.

Best to stay out of it until CCP manages to achieve some level of balance.

no politics, no BS. ask anyone who has ever dealt with me that im a man of my word and I am not profiting from this

I don't think my corp is quite big enough to do this, we often get a full squad going at peak times but need more people I think to venture into this. Good luck though, I hope you get lots of interest and participation!

Couldn't I just get a decent team, spend the 80 million, then attack one of the smaller corps?

I know seraphim has been doing the same because its not nearly as fun to fight the same three corps all month long... But its good to see others wanting to get new corps into PC

What planet is this you are setting aside for the newer corps might be interested in this if it looks legit ?

I know seraphim has been doing the same because its not nearly as fun to fight the same three corps all month long... But its good to see others wanting to get new corps into PC

LMAO... Just like everyone fought KEQ out of their holdings... so shall hellstorm and TP fight the new corps out. What are you doing just inviting corps in just to attack them later...

I almost want to join Team Players just because of this. So I know it's off topic, but how many heavies do you guys have? Zion's lacking in terms of player diversity anyways and my prototype repair tool is getting dusty.

Yes I stay in contact with Sha and some other top dogs to keep all the BS and politics out of this venture. Everyone is completely on board with getting all interested corps an opportunity in PC.



Once people get some PC experience, they will see what all the fuss is about.


and as for the comment on SP... about 10 mil is all anyone needs to specialize a role and be competitive with those with considerably more.

people with more SP have multiple specializations , and are basically just more versatile and can change roles. Don't ever look at the SP gap as more than that...

LMAO... Just like everyone fought KEQ out of their holdings... so shall hellstorm and TP fight the new corps out. What are you doing just inviting corps in just to attack them later...

honestly I don't know what to tell you... you are a part of ROFL, composed of several corporations that could not withstand attacks on a grand scale.

I have a lot of respect for KEQ and all ROFL corps. many great fights and good times. Havok Core, Tritan, even LOTIS when they showed brought good times.

but please keep politics and butthurt out of this.

This is for the independent, new corp that wants to try out PC. not the 300 player alliance that is sore over how their run in PC ended (which lasted what 2 months? don't tell me you guys didn't have fun while you were active)

what do I have to gain from bringing in corp X then just taking it right away from them? 70-80m and a black eye?


u DO realize I ALONE profit over 30m a week from playin pubs right? you DO realize I have over 500m in my own PERSONAL wallet right?

some people just cant understand the bigger picture and making room for everyone in PC is integral to its success


EDIT: btw I tried to work with ROFL to help keep them in PC anyway and they declined. I can understand as we had some good talks and I see where they were coming from, but comments like this make it harder to hold you high on a pedestal as I have.

It's not a scam, EON. just want renters, similar to the pets that LoI recently picked up (PHI, War Ravens, 187.).

KEQ, at it again. Going to burn ROFL to the ground with your ignorance and inability to keep friends.

KEQ, at it again. Going to burn ROFL to the ground with your ignorance and inability to keep friends.

Yes we did have good times, but we are not fully out of PC just yet. I'm not hatin' on getting more corps in PC. I'd like to see more corps in PC also. We are as competive as we could have been. KEQ will always give 110% whether we are losing or winning. I'm just questioning if so said corp decides to attack TP or other said alliances would they be eliminated from PC?

As for your profits. I'm proud of you ***pats Chicago on the back***

nope no scam.. I'm at the top of the leaderboards (top 10 that is... 13ear has more time on his hands than I do anymore). when they reset our assets I got over 700m just myself. I have no use for isk.

Im doing this to get more people to experience PC, for better or worse. Any corporation that has organization on this game should strive to play in PC. just like the old contract system, except now its 16v and you don't play for a predetermined amount of isk, you play for your land that you hold or look to hold!

Im just in a position to help you out to get you started

So PC is big corps trying to eat the smaller corps?

You should've used an alt man, this just makes it look like the serf is standing up for the master.

We stand behind our words, so no alt is necessary."

also not entirely true... There are SPECIFIC areas set aside for new corps. The rest of the landscape is open season as usual, but there are 2 planets currently set aside for the independent corps.

These 2 planets are out of the way of the wars and are being inhabited solely by the corps ive mentioned.

Please take a look at the map before being a negative nancy


but thank you for your input

This was actually an encouragement for whatever corps are interested to invest without worrying about being scammed, albeit with the right idea of what they're buying.

Everyone's going to agree that the sentiment of getting more corps into PC is a noble one, but there's always a personal motivation. What I detailed above is yours, and it's not a bad motivation to have. If you didn't have one, I'd be much more likely to think it a scam than otherwise.

As for the location? There's only one constellation where there have been very many fights for the past month.

I just find it funny that anyone in KEQ could call any of those groups pets. Each and everyone of those corps could stomp out KEQ from the map and not even break a sweat doing it. ROFL was already finished the day PFB and PHI abandoned it.

Been meaning to ask you guys how your back was feeling now that you no longer had to carry all that extra weight.

you have obviously not been in a PC match... the LAV spam is not a part of PC... its skirmish, and indycar tryouts don't hack you the points..

Still some spaces available so don't delay!

my indy car DOES hack the points :P me and my level 5 hacking minmatar logi with 4 complex hack mods in the drivers seat :P

We stand behind our words, so no alt is necessary. "Hiding" behind an alt........that would portray ones weakness and servitude. Hiding among the bushes is the handiwork of a coward.

"A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

Lets see what today-¦s dev blog will give us.

Maybe a fix to all "uber" corps milking cash in PC?!

While I appreciate the integrity, I too will stand by my words. It really appears as though the organgrinder starts his music and out jumps the monkey to defend his masters honor.

There has to be something going on that we don't know about. PHI and PFB are both better than pets, yet why do they vassal themselves to a rental alliance? It just doesn't make sense to me. Most of the self-proclaimed elite corps think scrub when they think of me (hell, even those who were being "carried" in 2010 think the same), yet I haven't been like "ooooh, ooooh, I can haz rental district pleeeeze!!!!".

Scrubs are renters and renters are scrubs, no matter if in Space or on a Planet, simple as.

I know you guys want more than just a Blueberry Muffin of renters and their overlord (at least I'm hoping), I just don't know why you decided to take the ***** way out and pledge fealty to someone who only wants to profit from you.

In response to your quote, if ships aren't built for being safe in port, why'd you dock up with renters?

trade in that time-share for a place you can call your own!

they're on sale and in limited supply!

get yours now!

Did you read my scam thread about the 10 million dollars or something? This is pretty close to the one who won.

I just find it funny that anyone in KEQ could call any of those groups pets. Each and everyone of those corps could stomp out KEQ from the map and not even break a sweat doing it.
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Nope, none of those corps could. We were 50% W/L against PHI in 8v8, and have destroyed 187 and War Ravens in both 8v8 and 16v16 - So much so they had to bring in half a team of ringers from HS to make it competitive. You and the rest of the cretins need to know there are only 3 corps right now that can consistently beat us - Hellstorm, TP, and IE. That's it. We've played pretty much everyone else, and beaten them.

Sorry mate but I count 5 total battles we have done. You won a single. So thats 20% W/L

I counted 4 and was in two that were won, one that was lost. The other I heard we had lost. That's 50%. Even if it was 5 that's still 40%, which could hardly be called a "stomping" as Middle put it. No disrespect to PHI as I know you guys are a solid corp, but I needed to clarify this as so many fools on these forums have turned to underestimating KEQ because we lost many battles to arguably the best corp atm. Losing to #1 doesn't mean we can't thrash 99% of Dust corps.

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We also were 100% (1:0) against PFBHz.......doesnt mean we would have won all battles against them. The battles I am counting are 2 in December, 2 in Feb and 1 in March. The battle KEQ won, was in Feb and T-Brown owned the field with his tank.

Anyway none of that matters because when you friendly scrim you usually are trying to develop new players. So I never really count those battles as a true judgement of skill.

the big corps have agreed to stay out of it (that is until you get the experience and confidence to take us on!!) but we are setting up entire planets with independent corps to battle it out with each other!


rest assured all smaller corps that break the agreement that they are not to utilize the help of the major corps in their matches vs other independent corps will get taxed or simply lose their place.

*cough*

ok I will check it out

my inbox fills fast unfortunately... I haven't even capped yet and im supposed to be captain nolife....

might not even cap til tomorrow what is this world coming to?!?!

that's just...greedy

although u call it Kobrah's Ribs n ChiCken we might be able to work something out ;)

You actually did reply to me yesterday but the answer I got there differs from what you posted today on here, do you need me to send it again? maybe there was confusion as to what I was saying.

I can just do a small message letting you know the corp pulling ringers in and who they're pulling them in from.

One of our alliance corps attacked a district and these guys' ringers killed our 100 clones in under 5 minutes, talk about demoralizing lol

Please do. And please realize I am beyond busy atm with everything so allow time for me to look into things.

im hearing talks of little guys employing big guys to defend for them...

no I do not agree with this at all, but in the same regard there is little I can do.. ISK talks

now if little guys are employing big guys to ATTACK.. this is a breach of contract as discussed with all prior to purchase.

Also know this issue has been noted, more than once, and I am looking into the best course of action.

This could end up being as severe as Team Players simply taking down the guilty parties lands and handing them to the little guys whom you are affecting.

people cant just stay out of things and let people to their business.

The indie planets have VERY high activity, which is great for everyone, but when big brother gets involved, even if only a couple 'ringers' in a match, it completely takes away from the experience from everyone.

please mail me in game or Skype me (preferred) with detailed info of major corporations being involved and I will look into it.

TEAM is looking for some new targets anyway.

honestly, I would like to hear from those utilizing these players as well. Corps contracting other corps to work in their interests is a big part of this game, but at a cost.


Not to upset about it but we have been getting attacked by a top 100 corp for 2 weeks now and doing ok but they have started bringing in guys from team players to help them and Alittle upset about that because that forces me to hire mercs to compete with that and cuts people from my corp out the match. And now I got a riot in my corp because of it. So not going to throw money at this anymore tell we all decked out. Cubs is legit about selling the districts and keeping most the major players out so for the corps wanting to do this and our hesitant its no scam and he will honor his word 100% but as for keep all the major players out prolly never going to work alot work for one guy. Thanks for the opportunity to participate in the PC battles we did have cubs. People like this guy is what's going to keep this game alive.

This whole process is fail. It's suppose to be EVE giving us money - not dust.

Indie corps can barely afford there own gear.

Hit me up savage id realy like to know the story