you wanna deal with something larger then militia? get something better then a militia swarm, simple as that.

1 AV player shouldn't have the ability to take out a tank. It should require teamwork and the correct equipment. It's a tank.

But a bad player shouldnt be carried by their gear, Ive surfed on enough tanks to know there are a lot of terrible drivers out there being carried by the vehicle

But a bad player shouldnt be carried by their gear, Ive surfed on enough tanks to know there are a lot of terrible drivers out there being carried by the vehicle

1 swarms do 20% less dammage to shields than armour even less if the shield tanker has resistance amplifyers.

I quite often get redberry tank surfers ontop of my tank I simply either drive them back into the redline or right infront of my squad mates. Good tankers enjoy the entertainment that tanksurfers bring

you can't kill HAV's with swarms? You're not doing it right. hopefully, you're not asking for them to be nerfed, as they've been nerfed to the ground already.


Peace, Aizen

Swarms actually deal almost twice as much damage to armor as to shields. 130% as compared to 70%. A standard swarm launcher does 924 damage per volley to shields and 1716 damage to armor. So what you're shooting makes a huge difference.

Careful going back to the redline
The stupidest most entertaining thing Ive done was lurk in the hills near the redline near constantly jumping on top of the same tank driver whenever he came out of hiding and shooting uselessly into his hull just to annoy him
I like to count neutralizing a tank that way as a win for me

No...i just saying that my "anti-vehicle" weapon, should do more that just be an inconvenience for vehicles.. is like trowing rocks at them.. they just Scratch the painting.

You don't get it do you. Let me make this clear: I pay ~800k ISK per HAV. You pay jack ******* squat for that fit. Popping me with that fit should take a outside force other than yourself. Get over it, and stop bitching. Get better AV.


Peace, Aizen

Like i already said.. the advanced ones do only 330hp more damage, how that is going to make a difference ? Just because you spent 800k in your tank, that doesn't means that you should be impossible to kill. You take a "risk" spending that much ISK, so you can get more kills and better rewards ...but that shouldn't make you a GOD.

I was going to try and help you but you obviously just cant or are to stupid to see adv swarms if in a good position will destroy most tanks. Yoir obviosly just doing it wrong by trying to solo a tank. Get good or do somthing else.

CBR-7: base damage 1650 hitting armor makes it go up to 1980. With just 2 enhanced damage mods, your over 2k damage. the eHP of a good fitted HAV is about 8k before reppers. With, it's about 15k. So your saying you can't fire off 2-3 and then follow it, wait for it's repps to turn off, then kill it? You're horrible.

The advanced does 330 more damage... 1650 damge each shot.
Add a couple 10% damage mods and the damage goes up to almost 2000. EACH SHOT. And you have 4 before you have to reload.

You are not supposed to be able to destroy good tanks and dropships ALONE with the militia, free, no sp fit.

But most of the time the militia swarm launcher is enough to make tanks run away, are you sure you are actually hitting them?

Try to go on higher ground to get a better firing position.

Swarm launchers are fine, tanks have already been nerfed too much.

If you are having problems team up with someone, you will see how fast tank blow up in the open.

Edit: Tanks needs 3 people to operate at maximum efficiency. You are not supposed to blow up a fully crewed, well fitted tank alone.

I call bs the numbers are acctually 89% to shields and 129% to armour. If the shield tanker has max shield upgrade skills its 79% base dammage if the armoir tanker has max skills in armour uogrades its 119% and thats before any tank stacks damage resistance mods . Also these numbers are also excluding dammage mod stacking by the swarm launcher. Do your reserch before tyoing up bs.

what you're shooting makes a huge difference.

I using the Swarm launcher because the Commando suit.. you know how much it will cost me to run a Adv Commando, with Proto Swarm, and damage mods ?.. also you know how often i will die ? and how much ISK i will loose per battle ?

.. makes Dropships roll on the floor laughing. That things are only got for militia vehicles and turret installations...I actually spend 10 minutes spawning missiles at a tank yesterday.. and i could hear that dude laughing at me.. was just sitting there.. not moving at all.. just eating my Swarm missiles like candy.