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Icy TIG3R Red Star. EoN. 409	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:59:00 - [1] - Quote Only the scrubs with no gun game at all are complaining. Please tell them to **** off. Yeah, it hurts when your SP can't carry you. But in the end it all comes down to getting good. So, GG.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 1641	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:02:00 - [2] - Quote Loving the movement right now.
Kiro Justice Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 176	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:28:00 - [3] - Quote I agree.
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 379	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:32:00 - [4] - Quote The increase in strafing speeds is the first step towards giving skilled new players an actual chance to overcome both gear and SP advantages. Anybody that wants strafing speeds reverted wants to hide behind gear and SP.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4346	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:33:00 - [5] - Quote I know, it's almost as if some of us are concerned with how this is a very big change in design direction at a time when CCP claims to want to put balancing on the backburner, despite the fact that this further tips balance in the favor of a few particular playstyles. Some people just want to watch Heavies turn
Green Living 0uter.Heaven League of Infamy 481	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:39:00 - [6] - Quote Still can't out strafe my Fused Locus Grenade, get good.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1754	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:42:00 - [7] - Quote Strafe speeds are BS and its not going to help new players at all. Players canstill hidebehind gear no problem, look at any ******* using a Caldari Logi and a Flaylock pistol and Contact grenades. Suffice to say, strafe speed change has further increased the disparity between shields/armor. This change should have only occured after the two were balanced and even then they should have slowly walked it up instead of making such a vast jump.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2164	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:49:00 - [8] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: Only the scrubs with no gun game at all are complaining. Please tell them to **** off. Yeah, it hurts when your SP can't carry you. But in the end it all comes down to getting good. So, GG. I support the new strafing, but we need a better argument than "Learn2play herp-derp!"
mollerz Minja Scouts 574	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:51:00 - [9] - Quote it should stagger based on the suit. Fastest to slowest- Scout-logi-assault-heavy
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4354	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:53:00 - [10] - Quote Green Living wrote: Fused Locus Grenade, get good. I don't want to live on this planet anymore

Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2156	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:19:00 - [11] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Green Living wrote: Fused Locus Grenade, get good. I don't want to live on this planet anymore Yeah, my eyeballs bled a little.
Icy TIG3R Red Star. EoN. 411	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:30:00 - [12] - Quote So many terribad opinions. This strafing speed is the first step to making the game feel fluid and fun just like it used to be Replication and prior, before Open Beta came around and garbo players started complaining that they sucked. First step to balancing as well.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1644	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:31:00 - [13] - Quote Strafe speed only further buffed shield tankers, who were already better in every way than armor tankers. This was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 322	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:33:00 - [14] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: Only the scrubs with no gun game at all are complaining. Please tell them to **** off. Yeah, it hurts when your SP can't carry you. But in the end it all comes down to getting good. So, GG. All I need is the aiming to get fixed and I'll be happy with my scrambler pistol.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 322	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:37:00 - [15] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Strafe speed only further buffed shield tankers, who were already better in every way than armor tankers. This was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Armor tankers got buffed by new strafe, if anything it's the shield energizer that's making shields superior to armor in terms of survivalbility.
Skipper Jones Red Star. EoN. 229	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:43:00 - [16] - Quote It's not about being good. It may be because you use the AR and have better accuracy. Using the SR and trying to track these erratic motions of these players is completely unnecessary. No one complained about the strafing speed. There was no need to change it. CCP probably won't change it back. They probably don't realize that no one asked for it so it didn't need to be changed.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2166	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:43:00 - [17] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Strafe speed only further buffed shield tankers, who were already better in every way than armor tankers. This was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Armor tankers got buffed by new strafe, if anything it's the shield energizer that's making shields superior to armor in terms of survivalbility. Man, I wish someone could explain this stuff so people can stop getting unnecessarily butthurt.
Skipper Jones Red Star. EoN. 229	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:45:00 - [18] - Quote It's kind of a bad opinion argument though. The peolpe who didn't care for the new change are just saying "Get good. HTFU. Adapt or DIe" It's good to see CCP create a gap between players...
Aisha Ctarl The Generals EoN. 404	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:45:00 - [19] - Quote I'm an Amarr Assault. Prior to 1.2 consistently got scores of 32/4, 21/0, 17/2, etc. Post 1.2 - 6/6, 9/12, 1/11 - yeah CCP screwed the game over with the new strafe speeds. #deathtothestrafe
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4363	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:47:00 - [20] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Strafe speed only further buffed shield tankers, who were already better in every way than armor tankers. This was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Armor tankers got buffed by new strafe, if anything it's the shield energizer that's making shields superior to armor in terms of survivalbility. You obviously know what you're talking about, care to explain to me how armor got buffed by strafe speed? Do you think it's because the passive HP regen will be more useful if you're strafing a lot and negating enemy fire? What about the reduced speed, especially when the % penalties are applying properly to armor plates? It would seem like less speed in a strafe game is just asking to die a painful death, so I'm actually quite curious to hear your point of view on this particular aspect of it.

IRuby Heart DIOS EX. Top Men. 800	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:54:00 - [21] - Quote The only ones complaining are the ones that don't know how to aim and strafe at the same time.... I do have to agree on one thing though, Shield tankers are benefiting from this more than they should while armor tankers are not. Strafing pre 1.2 wasn't viable and pretty sluggish. 1.2 has finally fixed that and has made for fine and face paced movement.
Icy TIG3R Red Star. EoN. 412	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:57:00 - [22] - Quote I use Scrambler Rifles, and the bullet dispersion on them is broken so yeah...
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 325	Posted - 2013.07.03 22:10:00 - [23] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Strafe speed only further buffed shield tankers, who were already better in every way than armor tankers. This was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Armor tankers got buffed by new strafe, if anything it's the shield energizer that's making shields superior to armor in terms of survivalbility. You obviously know what you're talking about, care to explain to me how armor got buffed by strafe speed? Do you think it's because the passive HP regen will be more useful if you're strafing a lot and negating enemy fire? What about the reduced speed, especially when the % penalties are applying properly to armor plates? It would seem like less speed in a strafe game is just asking to die a painful death, so I'm actually quite curious to hear your point of view on this particular aspect of it. Before 1.2, the additional plates hit strafing hard. While I used the Minmatar Logi back then when the proto had 5.3 movement speed, I made a fit with 500 armor and even though I still had much higher MS than the Heavy (stats on fitting screen), strafing was far slower than the heavy's base strafing speed. Now in 1.2 I tested a fit with 516 armor and 4.51 MS (base is 5.0 MS) and I got to still move faster than the heavy.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4374	Posted - 2013.07.03 22:16:00 - [24] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Before 1.2, the additional plates hit strafing hard. While I used the Minmatar Logi back then when the proto had 5.3 movement speed, I made a fit with 500 armor and even though I still had much higher MS than the Heavy (stats on fitting screen), strafing was far slower than the heavy's base strafing speed. Now in 1.2 I tested a fit with 516 armor and 4.51 MS (base is 5.0 MS) and I got to still move faster than the heavy. In relation to Shields vs Armor though, do you think that the new strafing speed favors armor as equally as it favors shields? Do you use only basic plates on your test fit, or did you use the new plates to get better speed (since apparently they screw with the stacking penalties) Also, do you feel that being able to quickly hop side to side is fine as is? If so, why do you feel that it's preferable to having say a slight restriction to rapid back and forth strafe through a slight stamina cost to change directions, or a slight acceleration / deceleration when changing directions.
Skipper Jones Red Star. EoN. 229	Posted - 2013.07.03 22:18:00 - [25] - Quote I hate the generalizations that people make during these disagreements. "The only people complaining are the people with high sp and no skillz. Get good" Well, I don't like the new strafing. I still do well in battles and still go positive. It's just the new strafing is ruining CQC. Especially since CCP had changed the Scrambler rifle somehow, to the point where it takes longer to kill people now. It's also great to see 'good' players be excited about the new change and saying "Get good!!! Now it gives us a chance to be good" Doesn't that make it so new players have even a harder time playing against us? Seems like it's making the new player experience worse
SENATOR KODOS Absentee AFK Regiment 198	Posted - 2013.07.03 22:18:00 - [26] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: The increase in strafing speeds is the first step towards giving skilled new players an actual chance to overcome both gear and SP advantages. Anybody that wants strafing speeds reverted wants to hide behind gear and SP. This is the news ive been waiting for.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 515	Posted - 2013.07.03 22:22:00 - [27] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: The increase in strafing speeds is the first step towards giving skilled new players an actual chance to overcome both gear and SP advantages. Anybody that wants strafing speeds reverted wants to hide behind gear and SP. What about the above average players with gear+SP advantages?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4377	Posted - 2013.07.03 22:24:00 - [28] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: Anybody that wants strafing speeds reverted wants to hide behind gear and SP. What about the above average players with gear+SP advantages? They can strafe, so it doesn't apply
SENATOR KODOS Absentee AFK Regiment 198	Posted - 2013.07.03 22:24:00 - [29] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: The increase in strafing speeds is the first step towards giving skilled new players an actual chance to overcome both gear and SP advantages. Anybody that wants strafing speeds reverted wants to hide behind gear and SP. What about the above average players with gear+SP advantages? Im gonna dump on em now.
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 382	Posted - 2013.07.03 22:51:00 - [30] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: I use Scrambler Rifles, and the bullet dispersion on them is broken so yeah... The RBS on the Scrambler rifles are ridiculous.



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