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Cass Caul
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.25 23:50:00 -
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mollerz wrote:T
A few late editions:
Minmatar melee base damage. Given the bonus of 5% level to melee per scout suit skill, it implies that the minja scout is also a brawler. The base damage of the minja suit is 80, and a fully skilled minja at LV 5 can hit 100 damage. so why bother? The base level damage for an assault/logi is 110. I believe the minja melee base skill should be increased.
Also, do you guys notice that when taking a lot of enemy fire around you you actually slow down? I am not sure if this h
Is calling the Minmatar Scout Suit a Minmatar Scout Suit really so difficult?
But more importantly, in Chromosome the Scout had the highest Melee damage. We have the lowest now. Why this change?
This seems like the same change that was made to Passive Scanning. By "balancing" it, you focus on an item that should be special, but instead you just turn a passive ability into something that isn't even worth it. Why bother with Microfiber Stimulants if they don't give you the damage needed to hurt anyone other than another Scout? |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
748
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Posted - 2013.07.25 23:55:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:
Is calling the Minmatar Scout Suit a Minmatar Scout Suit really so difficult?
It's absolutely and utterly insurmountable for me to do so. |
Ghost Kaisar
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
190
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:18:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am tagging and forwarding this, too much good info to pass up. Thanks dude!
This is the point where I would yell "WOOHOO", but I have already heard this from other CPM's and still 2 patches later nothing has happened except for more unintentional nerfs.
Thank you though! I really look forward to a scout fix patch or hotfix in the near future. |
Ghost Kaisar
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
190
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:23:00 -
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Okay, take a look at this post.
Maybe we should do something similar. I know we are super active on the forums, but maybe directly talking to a CPM would work. We already have the channel, we should try something like this. Maybe invite some CPM's? |
Cass Caul
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:25:00 -
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I've got 40 days left on my active boosters. When they're gone, so am I. I wish I could be around for those improvements, but these changes just happen too slow for a game with so many problems. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
753
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:47:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:I've got 40 days left on my active boosters. When they're gone, so am I. I wish I could be around for those improvements, but these changes just happen too slow for a game with so many problems.
Just leave the passive going on your primary. by the time it is good you'll be able to be anything you want (one would hope). at least you'll have a leg up. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
753
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:49:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:mollerz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am tagging and forwarding this, too much good info to pass up. Thanks dude! This is the point where I would yell "WOOHOO", but I have already heard this from other CPM's and still 2 patches later nothing has happened except for more unintentional nerfs. Thank you though! I really look forward to a scout fix patch or hotfix in the near future.
I'm kind of thinking IWS will come over to the scout side and never leave at some point. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
788
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Posted - 2013.08.03 03:07:00 -
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I've come to find out that vehicles will get a balance/makeover in 1.5 now, and infantry in 1.4. I presume this would include the scout class as a whole as well as the medium and heavy classes?
Any thoughts, CPM? |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
538
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:15:00 -
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I'm hearing "infantry rebalance" allover the place, but I've not seen any specifics. NDA withstanding, has CPM indicated up-or-down whether Scouts will be directly adjusted in 1.4? |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
1322
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:15:00 -
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As far as I know... We scouts aren't getting any direct buffs in 1.4. I'll poke around though, because we don't have a totally exhaustive list just yet. |
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
546
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:37:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:As far as I know... We scouts aren't getting any direct buffs in 1.4. I'll poke around though, because we don't have a totally exhaustive list just yet.
Thanks for the feedback, Nova. Maybe they have something else in mind for us (i.e. TacNet changes).  |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
874
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Posted - 2013.08.11 23:30:00 -
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That could be okay as long as they fix all the bugs. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
567
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Posted - 2013.08.15 15:49:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:As far as I know... We scouts aren't getting any direct buffs in 1.4.
Hiya Nova,
1.4 ain't lookin' too great for Scout balance, good sir.
We've gathered that "dev love" isn't coming our way 'til 1.5 or 1.6,
so gameplay changes are our best bet for a buff in 1.4.
Any word on a new 1.4 TacNet? The thread's gone quiet, so I'm inclined against hope.
NDA permitting, a "likely" or "not likely" would suffice in putting false hope to rest.
We won't hold it against you should you bear the bad news.
We understand you're not to blame for our prolonged, sickened state.
Bojo put up an inquiry thread on the topic:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101957&find=unread
Thanks,
Shotty GoBang |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
Inver Brass
658
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:19:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Nova Knife wrote:As far as I know... We scouts aren't getting any direct buffs in 1.4.
Hiya Nova, 1.4 ain't lookin' too great for Scout balance, good sir. We've gathered that "dev love" isn't coming our way 'til 1.5 or 1.6, so gameplay changes are our best bet for a buff in 1.4. Any word on a new 1.4 TacNet? The thread's gone quiet, so I'm inclined to think not. NDA permitting, a "likely" or "not likely" would suffice in putting false hope to rest. We won't hold it against you should you bear the bad news. We understand you're not to blame for our prolonged, sickened state. Bojo put up an inquiry thread on the topic: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101957&find=unreadThanks, Shotty GoBang
Very likely.  |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
652
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Posted - 2013.08.25 07:34:00 -
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Hey Nova Knife,
The guys are asking, and I'm super curious as well:
Do you run a Scout Suit casually or all the time?
What's your favorite loadout, if I may ask?
Thanks,
Shotty
PS: We're all excited about the upcoming TacNet changes. Thanks again for lobbying for us. o7 |
Cass Caul
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.08.25 15:35:00 -
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I just wish my scan radius was bumped up to 15m to go along with the scanning change. Passive is still worthless ;_; |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
682
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Posted - 2013.08.28 13:16:00 -
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mollerz wrote:What are your thoughts on the state of scouts as of 1.2?
Salute to mollerz for all he's done for the Scout Community.
Not sure what he's up to now, but we'll miss you brother. o7
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
920
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Posted - 2013.09.11 07:02:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:mollerz wrote:What are your thoughts on the state of scouts as of 1.2?
Salute to mollerz for all he's done for the Scout Community. Not sure what he's up to now, but we'll miss you brother. o7
I broke down and DL'd 1.4 in my wait for GTA5.
Literally, the only improvement is the addition, apparently, of rigid body physics being addd to player character models.
Translation- When you try to knife someone you do not "clip" through them and miss. so there is that. maybe shotgunhit detection is better.
sadly, tho- its still far too sub par.
I'm a burgeoning game dev, and I've spent my career designing low latency trading networks to handle proximity black box trading.
I'm going to be honest with you guys. Strip away your gamer expectations and view this as a shrewd business person. This is afailed project, was developed wrong, and wil NOT get better. Even if they get a goodteam in to prgram and fix their direction, it will take a long time.
Sorry, but I have to move on from this. I put enough time and money into it on false promises. I got duped. shrug. All of us did.
You guys can hang on and hope if you want, but I am telling you. There is nothing short of a complete restructure in their dev team along with a clear cut model that will save this game.
Right now they are straight up patching and praying. They never had a concrete plan. if you think they did, why haven't they implemented it? Why are they still changing everything patch to patch?
A) We don't even have a full game. they never finished 16 character models representing 4 classes for 4 races of their own design. in over a year.
B) Same goes for vehicles.
C) Same goes for physics- terrain, structures, models, etc.
A-C is representative of business 101 when it comes to video games.
I assure you guys, they have people running the show who do not have the talent or wherewithal to pull this off. If they did, it would have materialized by now. You guys will be getting strung along as they think they can pull this off. If they could have pulled it off, they already would have. IF they could have a chance of pulling it off, we'd already be in a different place.
Please, I implore you, do not put any more money into this game. It will be a black hole. Eve hasn't been around ten years because it had to compete. It had massive tax breaks, and plenty of time to fail until they started getting it right even with limited funding. It is not the same comparison, and dust, on their own heads, has a big chance of failing at this point. It is sickening. But were I an investor in dust, I'd, as a highly proven and competent business person, would fold at this point. Or fire everyone and get real talent and overhaul this fukn mess.
My old boss, would puke if this was his product. He and I built amazing technology together.
TL;DR There is aright way to do something when you take on customers, and a wrong way. We got ripped off, and we get punished for saying so. Red flags, my guys. I'm just as sorry as you guys are, but there will be far far better stuff in the pipe. This just isn't worth the lies and BS they fed us.
That being said, I will DL and delete each update until it's good just for ***** and giggles. See how it goes. But seriously, please do NOT give them any more money. They are ripping us off. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
921
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Posted - 2013.09.11 08:05:00 -
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Just to give you an idea about how I feel about the game industry, and where I want to be a part of it...
I just ran across this on IGN ten minutes after I posted the above-
THIS
And to follow that, I would love to quote the first comment-
Quote: Wow if he feels this way about the quality of medal gear solid , E.A. must feel like s$%t about there games!!
-male34
I hope CCP and any of the devs personally reads this, and looks in the mirror and asks themselves why they are even creating dust 514 if it is going to ruin their reputation because of the complete lack of QA on their software builds. It is seriously not a cool precedent to set with your customers that you can twitter around with your product for years and at the same time instill a culture of shame in the form of HTFU being a reason to suffer their inferior product. The fact that they have a very small patsy client base they seem to draw confidence and assuredness from is disturbing. It should be. It means they feel justified in delivering an inferior product, and let an anemically small cheer leader fan base justify their actions. It is a shady and blind path that has utter disregard for basic "long con" business principles.
It is a far wiser path to just do it right, stay clear to your vision, and deliver an honest effort. Then build and improve. CCP is going down a super dark path and it is a real shame. It is really not cool to F with their customer base, and I hope as scouts, you guys see what I mean.
Like I've said scouts are scoundrels first, and it takes one to see one. This isn't QQ, this is straight up one industry guy to a fan base (because I am one of you guys too). This is not going ethically well. Ya feel me? don't buy into the QQ, HTFU BS. If I were a shady dev, believe me, I would love to foster such a thing. Con job 101.
I would love them to turn it around, but I am telling you. Software engineering wise, it is not going to happen with the current team. Ask yourself, is anything even close to what they said? Compare this to worse FPS games you hate, and honestly ask yourself, if you removed the dust community, would this game be worth anything?
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