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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:12:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Why does everybody fully believe we only ever run solo without mics?
Assume a brain. Then assume a competent tank crew. Then, we can get to specifics.
If that's the case then I don't see why you have so much issues with AV grenades, since you should be in communication with your squad and gunners, and should be advancing on the enemy with a buffer of infantry between you and them.
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Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
28
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:13:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:
It is a SP sink that is not needed. sorry most tankers are ending up dropping 16m plus if they want fully speced out enforcer set ups. Once other tanks come into play meaning just to get Speced into one races tanks tank drivers will be dropping 24m plus SP to fill out a single race. So yes needing to drop another 2.7m SP into a pilot suit just to be a top dog tanker is a bad mechanic. And on top of that it creates more balancing isues what CCP is already having trouble with.
Is your problem with the SP it will take to unlock pilot suits? The 190k SP it takes to get Gallente Light Dropsuits 3 to unlock the pilot suits? Because any SP put into the actual pilot suit skill is just like any SP put into the Vehicle tree because the pilot suit buffs vehicles and vehicles only. Or do you just not want any more skills to improve vehicles with? Because, you know, it's wrong not to be able to solo vehicles with militia gear.
Wait, what did that have to do with AV? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
239
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:18:00 -
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Promethius Franklin wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:
It is a SP sink that is not needed. sorry most tankers are ending up dropping 16m plus if they want fully speced out enforcer set ups. Once other tanks come into play meaning just to get Speced into one races tanks tank drivers will be dropping 24m plus SP to fill out a single race. So yes needing to drop another 2.7m SP into a pilot suit just to be a top dog tanker is a bad mechanic. And on top of that it creates more balancing isues what CCP is already having trouble with.
Is your problem with the SP it will take to unlock pilot suits? The 190k SP it takes to get Gallente Light Dropsuits 3 to unlock the pilot suits? Because any SP put into the actual pilot suit skill is just like any SP put into the Vehicle tree because the pilot suit buffs vehicles and vehicles only. Or do you just not want any more skills to improve vehicles with? Because, you know, it's wrong not to be able to solo vehicles with militia gear. Wait, what did that have to do with AV?
What's your reading comprehension? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4267
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:19:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:What's your reading comprehension?
Apparently better than yours :/ |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
239
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:19:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Why does everybody fully believe we only ever run solo without mics?
Assume a brain. Then assume a competent tank crew. Then, we can get to specifics. If that's the case then I don't see why you have so much issues with AV grenades, since you should be in communication with your squad and gunners, and should be advancing on the enemy with a buffer of infantry between you and them.
My usual squad is me, another tanker, a sniper, and various infantry levels. Why should I listen to an infantryman about how to run a tank operation? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
239
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:20:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:What's your reading comprehension? Apparently better than yours :/
LOL
I was better than average when I was in school. |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
376
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:20:00 -
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Don't listen to the words of SPRK he has yet to play in PC. He's a random that doesn't have an important opinion on much of anything.
#Freexprotoman23 #FreeWickedGlory #Booger4CPM #Phantom4CPM |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
239
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:22:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:Don't listen to the words of SPRK he has yet to play in PC. He's a random that doesn't have an important opinion on much of anything.
#Freexprotoman23 #FreeWickedGlory #Booger4CPM #Phantom4CPM
You're a ****** that nobody likes, posting in a thread about a suit that you're not going to spec into, which further enhances a field you have no desire to specialize in. So, why are you here and why are you talking about me? Why is my name in your mouth? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4267
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:23:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:My usual squad is me, another tanker, a sniper, and various infantry levels. Why should I listen to an infantryman about how to run a tank operation?
Because tanks advance with infantry?
That's, you know, kind of how they work? Well, it won't be if they get this absurdity. They'll be right back to solo KDR machines that require little skill but lots of SP to operate. Armor tanks will literally never die because they can just shrug off all kinds of AV with dual reps at 50% CD, pull around cover, recall.
Tanks advance with infantry because believe it or not, they're actually support vehicles. Infantry supports tanks by creating a buffer between them and the enemy, and tanks support infantry by providing mobile cover and forcing AV from the enemy team.
This is all incredible basic stuff that applies to the paradigm as a whole, not just how it plays out in DUST. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
239
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:25:00 -
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You're still pissed off that tanks will be more difficult to destroy when we get the pilot suit. Like I asked before... is it because they'll be harder to solo? |
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Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
28
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:27:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:What's your reading comprehension? Apparently better than yours :/ LOL I was better than average when I was in school.
He said you were getting a skill that gave you a buff in response to your complaint about sinking more SP. He didn't address survivability in general or survivability to AV in particular. Did you respond to the wrong post? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4267
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:27:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:You're still pissed off that tanks will be more difficult to destroy when we get the pilot suit. Like I asked before... is it because they'll be harder to solo?
No, it's because they won't die, and only bad players will manage to lose them.
This will also create a MASSIVE gap between newer and even mid range vehicle pilots vs "vets"
No option exists in the game currently that creates a gap like this. Sharpshooter used to, and was promptly and rightly removed.
The real question is why do you have such trouble operating HAVs as is, and why do you need such a massive buff just to function? |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
598
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:29:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:
It is a SP sink that is not needed. sorry most tankers are ending up dropping 16m plus if they want fully speced out enforcer set ups. Once other tanks come into play meaning just to get Speced into one races tanks tank drivers will be dropping 24m plus SP to fill out a single race. So yes needing to drop another 2.7m SP into a pilot suit just to be a top dog tanker is a bad mechanic. And on top of that it creates more balancing isues what CCP is already having trouble with.
Is your problem with the SP it will take to unlock pilot suits? The 190k SP it takes to get Gallente Light Dropsuits 3 to unlock the pilot suits? Because any SP put into the actual pilot suit skill is just like any SP put into the Vehicle tree because the pilot suit buffs vehicles and vehicles only. Or do you just not want any more skills to improve vehicles with?
First off lets get things correct. I am a avid vehicle users and have one of the greatest understanding of vehicle mechanics. I would put down 100 dollars that no one in CCP understands vehicle mechanics better then me. they know their code but I do not think they understand there mechanics at all.
Why am I displeased with pilot suits. Because they are a SP sink that really does not help vehicle players. Yes ur people who really have small understanding about game mechanics are going to be excited. It looks like a great buff. But the problem is that all it is doing is creating balancing issues and forcing a single type of vehicle game play. So this SP sink futher destroys the diverse gameplay that most highly skilled and strategic tank players truly enjoy. The game play becomes less dynamic and more static. Because in the end. I am throwing my SP into one thing.
It becomes boring because all I am doing is playing one style of game play with tanks and not getting to branch out and be a diverse tanker.
So Yes I am against this SP sink that CCP has put in front of us as vehicle players. I do not just get all happy because a buff is coming along. I actually think about it and look at how it will effect the future. Right now this will have a negative effect. Downright hurting vehicle game play. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
240
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:29:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:You're still pissed off that tanks will be more difficult to destroy when we get the pilot suit. Like I asked before... is it because they'll be harder to solo? No, it's because they won't die, and only bad players will manage to lose them. This will also create a MASSIVE gap between newer and even mid range vehicle pilots vs "vets" No option exists in the game currently that creates a gap like this. Sharpshooter used to, and was promptly and rightly removed. The real question is why do you have such trouble operating HAVs as is, and why do you need such a massive buff just to function?
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
30
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:45:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:Don't listen to the words of SPRK he has yet to play in PC. He's a random that doesn't have an important opinion on much of anything.
#Freexprotoman23 #FreeWickedGlory #Booger4CPM #Phantom4CPM You're a ****** that nobody likes, posting in a thread about a suit that you're not going to spec into, which further enhances a field you have no desire to specialize in. So, why are you here and why are you talking about me? Why is my name in your mouth?
Why are you even commenting on a gameplay and mechanics when you don't know what you are talking about and are terrible player?
Bad players shouldn't get a say, they only ruin **** |
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