I won't both putting the math here but you can do it in your head. adding 1/2 the value of these as a hot fix, will just barely help make armor tanking a viable option. right now its abit ridiculous

the reactive plates especially need a major buff, those things are almost pointless. but they are still a good idea.
reactive plates should be giving you at least 30-45 armor and heal at a rate of 2 hp per second, with the 1% movement speed penalty.

I won't both putting the math here but you can do it in your head. adding 1/2 the value of these as a hot fix, will just barely help make armor tanking a viable option. right now its abit ridiculous

the reactive plates especially need a major buff, those things are almost pointless. but they are still a good idea.
reactive plates should be giving you at least 30-45 armor and heal at a rate of 2 hp per second, with the 1% movement speed penalty.

what would happen if armor plates where moved to be H modules?

\o/ more wild numbers and changes. Anything close to doubling numbers would bring the letters O and P together!

Example from above...

enhanced armour plat + complex rep = 174hp + 10ar/s -5% speeeed

Dat there be crazy talk! your effectivly strapping a scout to your chest

Why not?

I am not aware that it takes a great deal of damage to kill a scout.

\o/ more wild numbers and changes. Anything close to doubling numbers would bring the letters O and P together!

Example from above...

enhanced armour plat + complex rep = 174hp + 10ar/s -5% speeeed

Dat there be crazy talk! your effectivly strapping a scout to your chest

what would happen if armor plates where moved to be H modules?

you for get 1 thing. everything does close to double damage to armor. even doubling the numbers on all armor modules wouldn't make it balanced.

Because this is really double the damage- http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64862/1/damageprofiles.jpg

The whole shiled versus armor debate is very difficult. I understand how some people see it as unbalanced but I can also see how it is close to balance.

1 Flux kills shields but extenders have no speed penalty.
Shields have do not regen while under fire and armor does.
Shields have a short delay before they bounce back armor does not (Because you are dead).
Armor can be repped by multiple Logis while shields can only be transferred by a LLAV.
Armor can be repped by Nanohives but shields regen faster than armor reps. Usually.
Armor tankers can fit damage mods and a tank while shields only have open low slots.
Armor tankers are slower but can rely on logi and hives to augment their survivability but shields have to go it alone.

I see both sides of the argument. I am a armor man, I like to run active armor tanks. I can be fully repped in about 10 seconds with an advanced suit with three complex reps. I have low armor HP but it bounces back quickly. I like the reactive plates because I can take a little more damage and still be repped in a short time. There are ups and downs but to me the pros and cons are similar enough to be close to balance. I would like to see some more HP or rep/s on the reactive plates but I am fairly happy with how they are now.

Because this is really double the damage- http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64862/1/damageprofiles.jpg

I won't bother putting the math here but you can do it in your head. adding 1/2 the value of these as a hot fix, will just barely help make armor tanking a viable option. right now its abit ridiculous

the reactive plates especially need a major buff, those things are almost pointless. but they are still a good idea.
reactive plates should be giving you at least 60 armor and heal at a rate of 4 hp per second, with the 1% movement speed penalty.

EDIT:

all armor values should be doubled. all armor plates, repair modules, reactive plates (except the penalty), ferroscale, all these should have their values and bonuses doubled.

chromebreaker, you have responed to several of my threads, and i find you to be a very reasonable and inquisitive individual. however, in this case i must disagree. behold:

sheild enegizer's 60% sheild recharge rate, 6% penalty to max shield. no skill requirement...lol



besides with all the weapons that are designed to do 50% more damage to armor, armor tanking must have a purpose. people get mad at flaylocks (which need a slight increase in blast radius, but a longer reload speed because people spam them to easily), MD, HMGs (although utter garbage still do more to armor than sheidls) SMGs, grenades,...etc, etc

these weapons are doing their job well. the problem lies in the fact that for the cost the armor tanking doesn't compensate for the additional damage that is being taken, and for a movement penalty like that its rediculous