Scouts now move slower (bug, not design I think), and are really easy to kill. I'm having trouble achieving anything in this suit atm, dying ridiculously fast as usual, but it happens every spawn.

Any other scouts finding their suits a lot worse than they were yesterday?

Scouts now move slower (bug, not design I think), and are really easy to kill. I'm having trouble achieving anything in this suit atm, dying ridiculously fast as usual, but it happens every spawn.

Any other scouts finding their suits a lot worse than they were yesterday?

Every body move slower, not only scout

You guys were bad scouts with no skills who only got by because the hit detection was trash.

Scout is the hardest class to play. Get good.

Every body move slower, not only scout

Well that sucks big time.

Apparently I'm looking at a 9 hour download so I can't check

well once the cloaking modules will be added, then scouts will become a deadly force. im still a scout and that i will never change

Got to used to being Barry Allen huh? Didn't think it would ever end did ya? :) This isn't DCUO and I shouldn't have to feel like I am shooting at a hero/villian using Super Speed trait.

Only if it was restricted to scouts which it isnt. Maybe they will allow scouts to run with it active and other suits to only move.

We will have to see how this plays out first - maybe a slight move and sprint speed increase across the board and/or buffing their scan radius and precision.

I am in a female Amarr dropsuit. Have a look at how they walk in the War Room...kinda like a robot. I lost my wiggle.

You guys were bad scouts with no skills who only got by because the hit detection was trash.

Scout is the hardest class to play. Get good.

This statement is the truth.


Is it really a surprise a suit that was meant for speed dies quickly?

This statement is the truth.


Is it really a surprise a suit that was meant for speed dies quickly?

This statement is the truth.


Is it really a surprise a suit that was meant for speed dies quickly?

Scouts now move slower (bug, not design I think), and are really easy to kill. I'm having trouble achieving anything in this suit atm, dying ridiculously fast as usual, but it happens every spawn.

Any other scouts finding their suits a lot worse than they were yesterday?

It hurts the scout the most.

Absolutely, Cipher.

In thread after thread since Uprising, Scouts have asked for assistance. We have received quite the opposite in Uprising 1.2, albeit likely an unintended consequence of improved mechanics. Either way, "nigh unplayable" is an apt description.

Adapt or Die, right? Get Good?

I'll give it a shot, but my patience is wearing thin. I have very little desire to play after being beat down in 10 or so matches this morning. Hence the time to post the following feedback (QQ to be precise)...

My Trusty Speed Tank Scout/Shotty Build (~$120,000):

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Gallente Scout (Proto)
K5 Specialist Shotgun
Core Flaylock
3 Complex Kin Cats
1 Complex Armor Rep
1 Complex Shield Extender
+ Active Scanner

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* 10.73 sprint speed: my only defense at under 300 total HP. Critique if you wish, but the above build made for a good time and decent odds in Uprising 1.1 Pubs (though it was total garbage in PC).



Uprising 1.1, Scout/Shotty Tactics (Ambush)

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Flank, scan, surprise attack, run for cover ... rinse & repeat.

Detection was unavoidable. Hostiles (except for other Scouts) generally had time to turn around and spot me before dying to the 2nd, 3rd or 4th shotgun blast. More often than not, my shields were depleted post slaying. Speedy evasives and 137 remaining armor were all that protected me from falling to enemy fire. Fortunately, the scout's presumably small hitbox combined with erratic movement at high speed made me hard to hit while running away.

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Uprising 1.2, Experience and Observations

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Flank, scan, surprise attack, run ... Dangit! I keep dying while running way. Not even close to reaching a safe distance or cover. What happened to my trusty, super-speedy Proto Scout suit?

Adapt or Die, Adapt or Die ... I must adapt!

Maybe I'm supposed to try the new Armor Plates.
1) I can't fit the good ones on my suit. Non-Option.
2) Let's trade one complex kin-cat for +40 HP.
3) Still getting hit hard while running away (now more slowly).
4) Note to self: 1-2 bullets worth of more armor doesn't seem to help.

Maybe I'll try this cool new Shiny Shield thingy.
1) I can't fit the complex, let's try the Enhanced.
2) Swapped Shiny Shield Thingy for Complex Extender (using my one high slot).
3) My Proto's sittin' pretty at 200HP. This isn't gonna cut it. Gonna give it try anyway.
4) Fails. Turns off game. Proceeds to Forums.

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Improved Mechanics = Bad News for Scouts

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Seems most bullets fired at me now land on target, regardless of sprint speed or evasion technique. Granted, I can see how not being able to hit a Scout would frustrate the AR types. Yet in Uprising 1.1, we 'hard-to-hit' Scouts died after every other kill on average (remember, 60% of us have a KDR below 2).

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Adaptation Options:
1) Find a new suit, if you want to shoot at bad guys.
2) Or find another game, if you want to be rewarded for clever play.
3) Or wait for CCP to throw us Scouts a bone. (Please hurry).


- Shotty GoBang

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Adaptation Options:
1) Find a new suit, if you want to shoot at bad guys.
2) Or find another game, if you want to be rewarded for clever play.
3) Or wait for CCP to throw us Scouts a bone. (Please hurry).


- Shotty GoBang

Downloaded the update this morning but didn't have a chance to play. This certainly doesn't make me excited about logging on tonight. And to think I was actually feeling a little better about the scout community after you put that registry together.

You guys were bad scouts with no skills who only got by because the hit detection was trash.

Oh boy not liking the sound of this *sigh* ok I'll see for myself soon then report back

The Scout Registry will continue to be updated regularly.

We have collected Uprising 1.1 statistics for 83 scouts. I'll keep track of exactly how hard each of us has been hit by Uprising 1.2. Plummeting statistics will make for sound debate.

Not that anyone cares, but I'll quit the game before I abandon the Scout Suit and our Scout Community. I'm hoping that an upcoming "Rapid-Fire Update" makes things better for us sooner rather than later. CCP has shown us little love, but they are responsive to their player base, and I'll give 'em a fair chance before throwing in the towel.

- Shotty GoBang

The Scout Registry will continue to be updated regularly.

We have collected Uprising 1.1 statistics for 83 scouts. I'll keep track of exactly how hard each of us has been hit by Uprising 1.2. Plummeting statistics will make for sound debate.

Not that anyone cares, but I'll quit the game before I abandon the Scout Suit and our Scout Community. I'm hoping that an upcoming "Rapid-Fire Update" makes things better for us sooner rather than later. CCP has shown us little love, but they are responsive to their player base, and I'll give 'em a fair chance before throwing in the towel.

- Shotty GoBang

Tomorrow I'm gonna skill into flaylocks. I need an edge :/

You guys were bad scouts with no skills who only got by because the hit detection was trash.

Scout is the hardest class to play. Get good.

you never played with spec then i have played with him many times and HE IS GOOD and has skill.
im not a scout(only at random times) but even i can see how hard the patch has hit them.
and i never had much trouble killing scouts if at the appropriate range e.c.t. u must just be S**T

On the plus side, as a scout, I should be able to snipe the bastards easier now too!

I am in a female Amarr dropsuit. Have a look at how they walk in the War Room...kinda like a robot. I lost my wiggle.

Apparently I'm looking at a 9 hour download so I can't check

The Scout Registry will continue to be updated regularly.

We have collected Uprising 1.1 statistics for 83 scouts. I'll keep track of exactly how hard each of us has been hit by Uprising 1.2. Plummeting statistics will make for sound debate.

Not that anyone cares, but I'll quit the game before I abandon the Scout Suit and our Scout Community. I'm hoping that an upcoming "Rapid-Fire Update" makes things better for us sooner rather than later. CCP has shown us little love, but they are responsive to their player base, and I'll give 'em a fair chance before throwing in the towel.

- Shotty GoBang

Psh, you all got complacent with poor hit detection and bullets just vanishing
Now that thats fixed its some huge conspiracy of them nerfing you guys and not just you having been used to the bad mechanics

It works both ways, went and played some other games for a while, got used to the decent aiming, came back to Dust and seemed all I was able to do was get assists

Its the endurance! You can't run an jump, you can't deak n dodge, you run out of gas you get stuck standing still waiting to run again but now theirs a delay or something it's friggin horrible I'm so choked!
I bought booster an played every damn day to finally get a wicked killing machine for over 20 kills a match with knives an now nothingg!
I don't even think I got 10 kills in a match I barely went positive!
Every weapon I have is close range except faylock thank god.
Proficiency Knives -trash-proficiency shotty- crap-proto scout-paper-endurance an cat mods - crap
Frigging pissed straight up!

Psh, you all got complacent with poor hit detection and bullets just vanishing
Now that thats fixed its some huge conspiracy of them nerfing you guys and not just you having been used to the bad mechanics

It works both ways, went and played some other games for a while, got used to the decent aiming, came back to Dust and seemed all I was able to do was get assists

Unpronounced run speed advantage
Same Scan radius
Lowest HP -> high chance of being 1-shotted by snipers, charge weapons, and shotguns
Least number of slots
Lowest fitting space
No points for spotting/scanning assists
No points for destroying enemy deployables

Why the F would anyone run a light fit?

If you want a sniper, get a caldari medium or caldari logi for more damage amps.
If you want utility/support, any medium will do better
If you just want to kill sh*t, get a heavy and a HMG
If you want to go anywhere in a jiffy, call a free LAV
If you want to stay out of the way and spot, quit. You aren't contributing.

Light suits have the best run/walk/strafe speed,best stamina,best shield regen,best shield regulation,best scan precision/profile.It's not the suit that is the problem,it's that most players dont play it right.

I was breaking even or going belligerent with it. Now, negative.

Ironically enough, my k/dr is going to be doing better now. I've stopped my usual scout activities of running behind enemy lines, dropping uplinks, and hacking stuff and transitioned to being a full-time sniper.

, and when i see another scout do amazing stuff regardless of our bad spot, then i realize that the scout playerbase are the best players of the game

Honestly I'm not having trouble still playing my scout, if anything it seems better much smoother gameplay now just gotta manage my stamina a bit but other than that its enjoyable

Do you use a flaylock?

Pistols and knives mostly only have an advanced flaylock atm