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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.30 21:50:00 -
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This matchmaking mode is for people who aren't interested in squading with their friends to pubstomp the bluedots. A bluedot only matchmaking and very newbie friendly. You get to play only with randoms. Wait isn't Dust an MMO? Why are we having matchmaking again?
-XOXO |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
185
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Posted - 2013.06.30 21:52:00 -
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At this point, just let it go.
We all know what Dust is.
Just go enjoy the Last of Us. Like me.
Right now. |
richiesutie 2
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
71
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Posted - 2013.06.30 21:56:00 -
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Naughty Dog>CCP Everyone knows that. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2441
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:12:00 -
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Pretty sure TLoU has more people playing the MP than people playing DUST, so they can afford to split the community up and still have enough people to fill up the lobbies, which to be fair are only 4v4. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1229
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:27:00 -
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CCP already announced monthly updates, which is unheard of in console gaming. What more do you want? |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
210
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:28:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CCP already announced monthly updates, which is unheard of in console gaming. What more do you want?
GOOD monthly updates.
Monthly crap is still crap. |
Tectonious Falcon
Phaze O n e
616
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:39:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CCP already announced monthly updates, which is unheard of in console gaming. What more do you want? GOOD monthly updates. Monthly crap is still crap.
We haven't even had the first monthly update yet, so shut up until then
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Sotapopthegrey gay
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:52:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CCP already announced monthly updates, which is unheard of in console gaming. What more do you want? GOOD monthly updates. Monthly crap is still crap. We haven't even had the first monthly update yet, so shut up until then
yea we have, look on dev blogs. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
227
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:53:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:This matchmaking mode is for people who aren't interested in squading with their friends to pubstomp the bluedots. A bluedot only matchmaking and very newbie friendly. You get to play only with randoms. Wait isn't Dust an MMO? Why are we having matchmaking again?
-XOXO Who are you? |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
141
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:56:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Pretty sure TLoU has more people playing the MP than people playing DUST, so they can afford to split the community up and still have enough people to fill up the lobbies, which to be fair are only 4v4.
and they'll all be gone in 3 months. thanks. |
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Tectonious Falcon
Phaze O n e
616
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:57:00 -
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Sotapopthegrey gay wrote:Tectonious Falcon wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CCP already announced monthly updates, which is unheard of in console gaming. What more do you want? GOOD monthly updates. Monthly crap is still crap. We haven't even had the first monthly update yet, so shut up until then yea we have, look on dev blogs.
What was it called?
Uprising 1.2 hasn't released yet, so unless I missed something... |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
399
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:59:00 -
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low genius wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Pretty sure TLoU has more people playing the MP than people playing DUST, so they can afford to split the community up and still have enough people to fill up the lobbies, which to be fair are only 4v4. and they'll all be gone in 3 months. thanks.
so will a lot of the dust players now. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
146
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:27:00 -
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Quote:Last of Us makes no party matchmaking 2 weeks after release, why can't Dust?
Cuz Naughty Dog is the **** and CCP is ****.
Plus i think CCP intended for new players to get stomped and give uber powers not based on skill but how long you have played.
They just didn't realize that new players would not play their game for very long and would simply quit after less then a week.
Seriously they designed the game this way...and the same guys who designed it this way have to eat crow and implement a matchmaking system that absolutely undermines their intent of how the game works.
The Devs are intentionally dragging their feet because they don't want to do it. Seriously i could write a program that separates players by how much SP they have into tiers and i have not written a piece of code in over a decade. it is not hard...yet they claim it is hard.
The existence of the academy proves that it is not hard. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
531
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:32:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:This matchmaking mode is for people who aren't interested in squading with their friends to pubstomp the bluedots. A bluedot only matchmaking and very newbie friendly. You get to play only with randoms. Wait isn't Dust an MMO? Why are we having matchmaking again?
-XOXO Because their matchmaking system is most likely based around KDR like most other shooters. In Dust the matchmaking system has to factor in multiple stats to get an actual balanced game which takes longer. Also Naughty Dog has more employees. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5508
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:38:00 -
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Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches.
Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
146
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches.
Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle.
There are design considerations in matchmaking though from the fact that not all humans are perfect, accounting for luck, and of course bad luck or bad days and be resistant to hiccups and the sorts. I mean this ain't cheese and WP/SP/KDR alone is not a means to the end results.
I mean what if one day you decided you know what I want to play a new class, all of a sudden you're going to start sucking in pubs until the system realizes what you are doing and knocks you down a peg or two.
Vs the other thing
purposely losing or swapping sets just to get knocked down a peg so you can go pwn some noobs again and not fight people of your own level (a problem in halo 2)
Why are you such a worthless lying pile of crap Iron wolf?
CCP said during E3 that matchmaking would be based on gear....not how good you do in matches.
This isn't the first time i have caught you feeding us garbage....I am getting kind of sick of it. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5510
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:00:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches.
Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle.
There are design considerations in matchmaking though from the fact that not all humans are perfect, accounting for luck, and of course bad luck or bad days and be resistant to hiccups and the sorts. I mean this ain't cheese and WP/SP/KDR alone is not a means to the end results.
I mean what if one day you decided you know what I want to play a new class, all of a sudden you're going to start sucking in pubs until the system realizes what you are doing and knocks you down a peg or two.
Vs the other thing
purposely losing or swapping sets just to get knocked down a peg so you can go pwn some noobs again and not fight people of your own level (a problem in halo 2) Why are you such a worthless lying pile of crap Iron wolf? CCP said during E3 that matchmaking would be based on gear....not how good you do in matches. This isn't the first time i have caught you feeding us garbage....I am getting kind of sick of it.
Because **** changes, gear does not determine skill, and getting the metrics on skill based are probably much harder in programming. What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride.
I mean you're taking human input, layering it into the nuances of this game, then spitting out a rank that when you do matchmaking the players lumped together would be in tolerance. All via a math problem because that is the only language computers really understand. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
689
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:08:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches.
Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle.
There are design considerations in matchmaking though from the fact that not all humans are perfect, accounting for luck, and of course bad luck or bad days and be resistant to hiccups and the sorts. I mean this ain't cheese and WP/SP/KDR alone is not a means to the end results.
I mean what if one day you decided you know what I want to play a new class, all of a sudden you're going to start sucking in pubs until the system realizes what you are doing and knocks you down a peg or two.
Vs the other thing
purposely losing or swapping sets just to get knocked down a peg so you can go pwn some noobs again and not fight people of your own level (a problem in halo 2) Why are you such a worthless lying pile of crap Iron wolf? CCP said during E3 that matchmaking would be based on gear....not how good you do in matches. This isn't the first time i have caught you feeding us garbage....I am getting kind of sick of it. Because **** changes, gear does not determine skill, and getting the metrics on skill based are probably much harder in programming. What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride. I mean you're taking human input, layering it into the nuances of this game, then spitting out a rank that when you do matchmaking the players lumped together would be in tolerance. All via a math problem because that is the only language computers really understand.
Ok so let me get this straight If I want to be CPM all I have to do is brown nose and defend CCP with even more fervor than this?
Damn thats gonna be hard |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
147
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches.
Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle.
There are design considerations in matchmaking though from the fact that not all humans are perfect, accounting for luck, and of course bad luck or bad days and be resistant to hiccups and the sorts. I mean this ain't cheese and WP/SP/KDR alone is not a means to the end results.
I mean what if one day you decided you know what I want to play a new class, all of a sudden you're going to start sucking in pubs until the system realizes what you are doing and knocks you down a peg or two.
Vs the other thing
purposely losing or swapping sets just to get knocked down a peg so you can go pwn some noobs again and not fight people of your own level (a problem in halo 2) Why are you such a worthless lying pile of crap Iron wolf? CCP said during E3 that matchmaking would be based on gear....not how good you do in matches. This isn't the first time i have caught you feeding us garbage....I am getting kind of sick of it. Because **** changes, gear does not determine skill, and getting the metrics on skill based are probably much harder in programming. What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride. I mean you're taking human input, layering it into the nuances of this game, then spitting out a rank that when you do matchmaking the players lumped together would be in tolerance. All via a math problem because that is the only language computers really understand.
When you find yourself in a hole quit digging.
You made a post claiming a reason why CCP is taking so long. That reason was easily falsified....now you are just throwing up smoke and mirrors.
Smoke - "Because **** changes" Mirrors - "What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride."
You are a real piece of work Iron Wolf. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5511
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:21:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
Ok so let me get this straight If I want to be CPM all I have to do is brown nose and defend CCP with even more fervor than this?
Damn thats gonna be hard
Actually it's far less about brown nosing and actually giving CCP a semblance of respect and understanding what is going on instead of using the position to attack them at every chance some folks in the community takes. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5511
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:23:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:
When you find yourself in a hole quit digging.
You made a post claiming a reason why CCP is taking so long. That reason was easily falsified....now you are just throwing up smoke and mirrors.
Smoke - "Because **** changes" Mirrors - "What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride."
You are a real piece of work Iron Wolf.
And people wonder why the CSM doesn't show up on the forums any more either. |
Shrapnels
The Order 1886
141
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:24:00 -
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lol..........
can't believe people don't realize how EASY it is to make game rooms for Full Random/No Party Teams.
CCP should do this:
Instant Battles are ALL, No Party Full random teams.
Mercenary Battles should start to include ALL game modes and be for Party and Solo players.
They could also just Add a Moshpit game mode into Instant Battle tab but....
Biggest problem to all of this is the Coding of the game. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
531
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:38:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote:lol..........
can't believe people don't realize how EASY it is to make game rooms for Full Random/No Party Teams.
CCP should do this:
Instant Battles are ALL, No Party Full random teams.
Mercenary Battles should start to include ALL game modes and be for Party and Solo players.
They could also just Add a Moshpit game mode into Instant Battle tab but....
Biggest problem to all of this is the Coding of the game. All I want is a no squad fking game mode. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
634
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:42:00 -
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as if dust matchmaking would actually run bugfree.. do u really want more disconnects than already served? be careful for what you wish for |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
399
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:44:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Shrapnels wrote:lol..........
can't believe people don't realize how EASY it is to make game rooms for Full Random/No Party Teams.
CCP should do this:
Instant Battles are ALL, No Party Full random teams.
Mercenary Battles should start to include ALL game modes and be for Party and Solo players.
They could also just Add a Moshpit game mode into Instant Battle tab but....
Biggest problem to all of this is the Coding of the game. All I want is a no squad fking game mode.
Its hard with this game. See.. they can make it fun or they can go the "second job" route that is eve. I'm guessing which direction they are going with. "Your choices matter" and all that booblah, they want to force people to care about the eve side of things, hence probably this game is for them. As attracting new players.. it's gonna be tough if they can't balance the all the crap that keeps that side messed up cause it's trying hard to stay in line with eve.
Kain once mentioned is should not be an eve FPS but a FPS in the new eden universe. sadly it feels like the first. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
691
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:49:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Ok so let me get this straight If I want to be CPM all I have to do is brown nose and defend CCP with even more fervor than this?
Damn thats gonna be hard
Actually it's far less about brown nosing and actually giving CCP a semblance of respect and understanding what is going on instead of using the position to attack them at every chance some folks in the community takes.
Actually most folks in the community think the CPM should have been elected from the playerbase by the playerbase to present our issues to CCP rather than shielding them and being yes men You want to talk about respect and understanding where is the respect and understanding of the viewpoints of the people you are supposedly supposed to be representing?
And if you dont like being treated the way you are due to your actions then harden the **** up or quit the CPM position |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2126
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:59:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:This matchmaking mode is for people who aren't interested in squading with their friends to pubstomp the bluedots. A bluedot only matchmaking and very newbie friendly. You get to play only with randoms. Wait isn't Dust an MMO? Why are we having matchmaking again?
-XOXO Team game.
Deal with it. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5513
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:11:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
Actually most folks in the community think the CPM should have been elected from the playerbase by the playerbase to present our issues to CCP rather than shielding them and being yes men You want to talk about respect and understanding where is the respect and understanding of the viewpoints of the people you are supposedly supposed to be representing?
And if you don't like being treated the way you are due to your actions then harden the **** up or quit the CPM position
No but its behavior of the public that drives the Developers and Community people into little corners like cools kid's clubs that starts a division in the community so the vitriol behavior of the few is and always will be extremely harmful.
I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections because of the quality of members available for election and misunderstanding positions of what the CPM does.
I mean this conversation here is providing more flack for their argument. The IRC is another former favorite route of communication but people attacking CCP every chance they get is scaring them away just about. I mean I have a hard time talking about Dust 514 without getting attacked in that channel by one individual. Because of this IRC has become a worthless outlet of communication entirely because of it. |
Imp Smash
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
144
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:11:00 -
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Also - consider that Dust is broken on a lot of levels. It's pretty damn broken when virtually all the top corps pull out of the flagship game mode and go do a carebear agreement because Dust doesn't run right. I want more game modes - I want more maps - bu more than anything I want Dust to run correctly. So I am betting CCP is prioritizing their time on getting the game workin smooth and correctly. THEN add bells and whistles.
Just a guess though. |
Xender17
Intrepidus XI Omega Commission
190
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:14:00 -
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Dust is meant to put interest and focus on teamwork. Most reviews also say this. Adding a mode that defeats a games purpose doesn't make much sense. |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2128
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:17:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Actually most folks in the community think the CPM should have been elected from the playerbase by the playerbase to present our issues to CCP rather than shielding them and being yes men You want to talk about respect and understanding where is the respect and understanding of the viewpoints of the people you are supposedly supposed to be representing?
And if you don't like being treated the way you are due to your actions then harden the **** up or quit the CPM position
No but its behavior of the public that drives the Developers and Community people into little corners like cools kid's clubs that starts a division in the community so the vitriol behavior of the few is and always will be extremely harmful. I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections because of the quality of members available for election and misunderstanding positions of what the CPM does. I mean this conversation here is providing more flack for their argument. The IRC is another former favorite route of communication but people attacking CCP every chance they get is scaring them away just about. I mean I have a hard time talking about Dust 514 without getting attacked in that channel by one individual. Because of this IRC has become a worthless outlet of communication entirely because of it. But see, this is just a sign of how badly CCP sucks, because a good developer would keep trying to talk to people in a reasonable manner while entitled teenagers tell them they don't deserve their jobs and should all be fired and have their game given to [insert company here] that would actually be able to make it work right. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
691
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Actually most folks in the community think the CPM should have been elected from the playerbase by the playerbase to present our issues to CCP rather than shielding them and being yes men You want to talk about respect and understanding where is the respect and understanding of the viewpoints of the people you are supposedly supposed to be representing?
And if you don't like being treated the way you are due to your actions then harden the **** up or quit the CPM position
No but its behavior of the public that drives the Developers and Community people into little corners like cools kid's clubs that starts a division in the community so the vitriol behavior of the few is and always will be extremely harmful. I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections because of the quality of members available for election and misunderstanding positions of what the CPM does. I mean this conversation here is providing more flack for their argument. The IRC is another former favorite route of communication but people attacking CCP every chance they get is scaring them away just about. I mean I have a hard time talking about Dust 514 without getting attacked in that channel by one individual. Because of this IRC has become a worthless outlet of communication entirely because of it.
So its the publics fault that they are frustrated with CCPs lack of communication which is nothing recent and has been going on for a long time Its the publics fault they misunderstand what the CPM does even though no current member of the CPM has decided to make a comprehensive post of what CCP expects from the CPM, what you actually do, or listing what you cannot discuss at all due to the NDA you all signed
Its the publics fault that when CCP hires a person dedicated to interacting with the community that we give her a chance she squanders by talking down to us and then vanishes when people dont like it Its the publics fault that when you post something with huge gaping flaws in its logic that we point them out and you crawl back to your hug box where its not your fault and everyone is just being mean and picking on you for no reason?
"You choices matter and have consequences" Its touted as a selling point of this game but really I dont think you or CCP really grasp what it means, you and them have all made choices from what you decide to say, how you decide to say and them from what they implement, how they do so, what they decide to work on and when and all those choices made have consequences and the satisfaction or lack thereof the community has with them and you is one of those consequences
Now go and try to find someone who will eat up your bullshit, Im sure plenty of fanboys will but Im not one of them |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
532
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:25:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Dust is meant to put interest and focus on teamwork. Most reviews also say this. Adding a mode that defeats a games purpose doesn't make much sense. Really can I see a quote from CCP stating that. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5513
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:33:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: But see, this is just a sign of how badly CCP sucks, because a good developer would keep trying to talk to people in a reasonable manner while entitled teenagers tell them they don't deserve their jobs and should all be fired and have their game given to [insert company here] that would actually be able to make it work right.
Well it certainly doesn't help when a blue tag posts some useful information then the first thing some of the worst forum goes do is turn around and twist it into something horrible and more hate generating.
I mean yeah the toxicity is probably from the lack of communication and it would be bad idea for me to start pointing fingers. However, it is the public community's responsibility to be civil and respectful if they truly do ever want CCP to opening up. Bad posters and toxic posters are sitting on the box and not letting CCP express themselves.
I am just afraid if the public cannot be respectful to even each other (and yes people have began attacking each other) or the CPM, what chances are they are going to remain respectful of CCP developer posts? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5513
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:36:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
So its the publics fault that they are frustrated with CCPs lack of communication which is nothing recent and has been going on for a long time Its the publics fault they misunderstand what the CPM does even though no current member of the CPM has decided to make a comprehensive post of what CCP expects from the CPM, what you actually do, or listing what you cannot discuss at all due to the NDA you all signed
Its the publics fault that when CCP hires a person dedicated to interacting with the community that we give her a chance she squanders by talking down to us and then vanishes when people dont like it Its the publics fault that when you post something with huge gaping flaws in its logic that we point them out and you crawl back to your hug box where its not your fault and everyone is just being mean and picking on you for no reason?
"You choices matter and have consequences" Its touted as a selling point of this game but really I dont think you or CCP really grasp what it means, you and them have all made choices from what you decide to say, how you decide to say and them from what they implement, how they do so, what they decide to work on and when and all those choices made have consequences and the satisfaction or lack thereof the community has with them and you is one of those consequences
Now go and try to find someone who will eat up your bullshit, I'm sure plenty of fanboys will but Im not one of them
I remember a very similar type of reply when the CPM did try to explain what they do. I mean the CPM been under constant attack before anyone has been seated really or even names were called out.
I mean I can prattle on all day what the CPM does but why considering knowing what the reply is going to be. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
402
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:37:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Xender17 wrote:Dust is meant to put interest and focus on teamwork. Most reviews also say this. Adding a mode that defeats a games purpose doesn't make much sense. Really can I see a quote from CCP stating that.
It's the same as a rock star saying I choose to sing cause I like music. lol SOCOM, Arma, rainbow, ext. Those focus are team work. yet they offer more of a fuller game then dust is. for every kind of fps player to enjoy. Dust is not a GOOD team focus game yet. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2132
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:44:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Xender17 wrote:Dust is meant to put interest and focus on teamwork. Most reviews also say this. Adding a mode that defeats a games purpose doesn't make much sense. Really can I see a quote from CCP stating that. It's the same as a rock star saying I choose to sing cause I like music. lol SOCOM, Arma, rainbow, ext. Those focus are team work. yet they offer more of a fuller game then dust is. for every kind of fps player to enjoy. Dust is not a GOOD team focus game yet. So, based on that, we should have solo-only matchmaking lobbies?
Just wait for Gladiator. It'll most likely be in for the first expansion anyway. Then you can small-team DM, TDM, CTF and KotH your hearts out. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
692
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
So its the publics fault that they are frustrated with CCPs lack of communication which is nothing recent and has been going on for a long time Its the publics fault they misunderstand what the CPM does even though no current member of the CPM has decided to make a comprehensive post of what CCP expects from the CPM, what you actually do, or listing what you cannot discuss at all due to the NDA you all signed
Its the publics fault that when CCP hires a person dedicated to interacting with the community that we give her a chance she squanders by talking down to us and then vanishes when people dont like it Its the publics fault that when you post something with huge gaping flaws in its logic that we point them out and you crawl back to your hug box where its not your fault and everyone is just being mean and picking on you for no reason?
"You choices matter and have consequences" Its touted as a selling point of this game but really I dont think you or CCP really grasp what it means, you and them have all made choices from what you decide to say, how you decide to say and them from what they implement, how they do so, what they decide to work on and when and all those choices made have consequences and the satisfaction or lack thereof the community has with them and you is one of those consequences
Now go and try to find someone who will eat up your bullshit, I'm sure plenty of fanboys will but Im not one of them
I remember a very similar type of reply when the CPM did try to explain what they do. I mean the CPM been under constant attack before anyone has been seated really or even names were called out. I mean I can prattle on all day what the CPM does but why considering knowing what the reply is going to be.
Now thats a cop out if I ever heard one, if you dont want to put in the work why be a CPM anyway |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
149
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections
The fact that you are not calling for elections immediately when this going on or resigning (which would force the CPM to either have an election or expose themselves as scum) only proves how much of a worthless pile of garbage you are.
Hell you don't even have the balls to tell us who is saying this. Or even to make a post on the forums to tell the players about it.
Instead you use this claim as hand waving and distraction in a thread about a completely different subject when you are caught feeding us lies and garbage.
You are a worm. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5514
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:53:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections
The fact that you are not calling for elections immediately when this going on or resigning (which would force the CPM to either have an election or expose themselves as scum) only proves how much of a worthless pile of garbage you are. Hell you don't even have the balls to tell us who is saying this. Or even to make a post on the forums to tell the players about it. Instead you use this claim as hand waving and distraction in a thread about a completely different subject when you are caught feeding us lies and garbage. You are a worm.
Congratulations you sold yourself a lie and made up something that wasn't true.
Also if you want to find out who called for this concept you should possibly lurk in the CPM forum section.
Yes I would love to tell you whom but that was in the private chambers and I have to respect that much with fellow members as well. |
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
402
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:00:00 -
[41] - Quote
hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections
The fact that you are not calling for elections immediately when this going on or resigning (which would force the CPM to either have an election or expose themselves as scum) only proves how much of a worthless pile of garbage you are. Hell you don't even have the balls to tell us who is saying this. Or even to make a post on the forums to tell the players about it. Instead you use this claim as hand waving and distraction in a thread about a completely different subject when you are caught feeding us lies and garbage. You are a worm.
Wolf doesn't need to say who it is, cause that person made a whole thread about his views, visit the jedi chambers and you would know. not everything is posted under general discussion. CPM related stuff, is in (surprising) cpm chambers.
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hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
149
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:00:00 -
[42] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections
The fact that you are not calling for elections immediately when this going on or resigning (which would force the CPM to either have an election or expose themselves as scum) only proves how much of a worthless pile of garbage you are. Hell you don't even have the balls to tell us who is saying this. Or even to make a post on the forums to tell the players about it. Instead you use this claim as hand waving and distraction in a thread about a completely different subject when you are caught feeding us lies and garbage. You are a worm. Congratulations you sold yourself a lie and made up something that wasn't true. Also if you want to find out who called for this concept you should possibly lurk in the CPM forum section. Yes I would love to tell you whom but that was in the private chambers and I have to respect that much with fellow members as well.
Quote:in the CPM forum section.
Quote:in the private chambers
A worm and an idiot. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
402
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:01:00 -
[43] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections
The fact that you are not calling for elections immediately when this going on or resigning (which would force the CPM to either have an election or expose themselves as scum) only proves how much of a worthless pile of garbage you are. Hell you don't even have the balls to tell us who is saying this. Or even to make a post on the forums to tell the players about it. Instead you use this claim as hand waving and distraction in a thread about a completely different subject when you are caught feeding us lies and garbage. You are a worm. Congratulations you sold yourself a lie and made up something that wasn't true. Also if you want to find out who called for this concept you should possibly lurk in the CPM forum section. Yes I would love to tell you whom but that was in the private chambers and I have to respect that much with fellow members as well.
HA! you beat me to it. how bloody fast you type? |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
533
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:05:00 -
[44] - Quote
hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections
The fact that you are not calling for elections immediately when this going on or resigning (which would force the CPM to either have an election or expose themselves as scum) only proves how much of a worthless pile of garbage you are. Hell you don't even have the balls to tell us who is saying this. Or even to make a post on the forums to tell the players about it. Instead you use this claim as hand waving and distraction in a thread about a completely different subject when you are caught feeding us lies and garbage. You are a worm. Congratulations you sold yourself a lie and made up something that wasn't true. Also if you want to find out who called for this concept you should possibly lurk in the CPM forum section. Yes I would love to tell you whom but that was in the private chambers and I have to respect that much with fellow members as well. A worm and an idiot. Coming from the unofficial forum idiot. |
Kiro Justice
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
140
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:09:00 -
[45] - Quote
Wow. I knew this rage was coming! I just knew it! A product of Incarna514 |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:26:00 -
[46] - Quote
What about you guys stop fighting over CPM "responsibilities"? It doesn't have anything to do with poor matchmaking system.
-XOXO |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
696
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:29:00 -
[47] - Quote
FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:What about you guys stop fighting over CPM "responsibilities"? It doesn't have anything to do with poor matchmaking system.
-XOXO
No all threads must be derailed all the time Talking about matchmaking is now talking about CPMs Talking about hit detection is now about LAVs Talking about weapon balance is now about my cat Oscar |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
534
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:38:00 -
[48] - Quote
Delta 749 wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:What about you guys stop fighting over CPM "responsibilities"? It doesn't have anything to do with poor matchmaking system.
-XOXO No all threads must be derailed all the time Talking about matchmaking is now talking about CPMs Talking about hit detection is now about LAVs Talking about weapon balance is now about my cat Oscar Well I want to hear more about Oscar so let's start talking about weapon balance.
ARs are OP |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
696
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:48:00 -
[49] - Quote
Kane Fyea wrote:Delta 749 wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:What about you guys stop fighting over CPM "responsibilities"? It doesn't have anything to do with poor matchmaking system.
-XOXO No all threads must be derailed all the time Talking about matchmaking is now talking about CPMs Talking about hit detection is now about LAVs Talking about weapon balance is now about my cat Oscar Well I want to hear more about Oscar so let's start talking about weapon balance. ARs are OP they need to be hit hard with Thor's mighty nerf hammer.
Well Oscar is orange and just in a generally foul mood towards everyone, even for a cat If he would type in english he would fit right in here |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
534
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:51:00 -
[50] - Quote
Delta 749 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Delta 749 wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:What about you guys stop fighting over CPM "responsibilities"? It doesn't have anything to do with poor matchmaking system.
-XOXO No all threads must be derailed all the time Talking about matchmaking is now talking about CPMs Talking about hit detection is now about LAVs Talking about weapon balance is now about my cat Oscar Well I want to hear more about Oscar so let's start talking about weapon balance. ARs are OP they need to be hit hard with Thor's mighty nerf hammer. Well Oscar is orange and just in a generally foul mood towards everyone, even for a cat If he would type in english he would fit right in here He sounds like my dog.... but hes a cat....
Also is this cat fat? |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
696
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:54:00 -
[51] - Quote
Kane Fyea wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Delta 749 wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:What about you guys stop fighting over CPM "responsibilities"? It doesn't have anything to do with poor matchmaking system.
-XOXO No all threads must be derailed all the time Talking about matchmaking is now talking about CPMs Talking about hit detection is now about LAVs Talking about weapon balance is now about my cat Oscar Well I want to hear more about Oscar so let's start talking about weapon balance. ARs are OP they need to be hit hard with Thor's mighty nerf hammer. Well Oscar is orange and just in a generally foul mood towards everyone, even for a cat If he would type in english he would fit right in here He sounds like my dog.... but hes a cat.... Also is this cat fat?
Yeah, he was my moms before I sort of took him and his brother over and she spoiled them so they are both a little fat, Im trying to get them to lose some weight by playing with them more and adjusting their food portions |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5514
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:01:00 -
[52] - Quote
FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:What about you guys stop fighting over CPM "responsibilities"? It doesn't have anything to do with poor matchmaking system.
-XOXO
I have had discussions with CCP Nullarbor who is behind the new matchmaking system and as I described before he's trying to solve the conundrum of interpreting player skill into something translatable and useful for gaging a player's ability that would fit everyone's profile of play. It's been difficult work but its being worked on right now.
There have been other discussions about other systems and means of social increasing activities (team deployment) and I am sure you can gleam into that by Dev post searching those up.
Dust 514 also does have plans for squad bonuses and the sorts but has to answer the tricky questions of design such as hierarchy requirements and the sorts I mean what if the Field Commander had +5% weapon damage bonus but his Squad Captain had only +3% weapon damage bonus? |
Kiro Justice
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
141
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:01:00 -
[53] - Quote
...Certainly very informative... |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc
607
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:23:00 -
[54] - Quote
MAURY! MAURY! MAURY! |
Onesimus Tarsus
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
544
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:25:00 -
[55] - Quote
Tectonious Falcon wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CCP already announced monthly updates, which is unheard of in console gaming. What more do you want? GOOD monthly updates. Monthly crap is still crap. We haven't even had the first monthly update yet, so shut up until then
Wouldn't that go for you too? |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:49:00 -
[56] - Quote
I hate being on a team that won't play!
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
448
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:58:00 -
[57] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Actually most folks in the community think the CPM should have been elected from the playerbase by the playerbase to present our issues to CCP rather than shielding them and being yes men You want to talk about respect and understanding where is the respect and understanding of the viewpoints of the people you are supposedly supposed to be representing?
And if you don't like being treated the way you are due to your actions then harden the **** up or quit the CPM position
No but its behavior of the public that drives the Developers and Community people into little corners like cools kid's clubs that starts a division in the community so the vitriol behavior of the few is and always will be extremely harmful. I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections because of the quality of members available for election and misunderstanding positions of what the CPM does. I mean this conversation here is providing more flack for their argument. The IRC is another former favorite route of communication but people attacking CCP every chance they get is scaring them away just about. I mean I have a hard time talking about Dust 514 without getting attacked in that channel by one individual. Because of this IRC has become a worthless outlet of communication entirely because of it.
IRC shouldn't be the primary method of communication with the playerbase. It should either be the forums or by some form of opt-in survey's from in-game.
I only ever got on IRC a few times because it reminded me too much of Jabber from 0.0 which only ever served 1 purpose that I noticed and that was to be a private communication between the "elites" of the involved corps.
While I will agree that people should be more respectful of the Devs, you do need to agree that the whole HTFU sensibility that they have fostered seemed to have blown up in their faces for the reasons you have noted.
I agree with Delta that CPM0 should've been elected by the players or CPM0 should've been Devs who would function more as CRs for the purposes for CPM0. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5518
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:51:00 -
[58] - Quote
Public IRC was a decent and valid outlet of information and communication because it was valued in real time. I mean can you imagine working with a developer in real time on resolving an issue involving lag or some sort of easily reproducable bug they want to see in action?
I mean there have been plenty of good volunteers willing to help CCP via IRC on things like these but lately they been poking the CPM instead. (IMO should be ISD Bughunter division) |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
150
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:25:00 -
[59] - Quote
FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:What about you guys stop fighting over CPM "responsibilities"? It doesn't have anything to do with poor matchmaking system.
-XOXO
As stated Iron wolf came in here and told us a bunch of bull about how the matchmaking system will work which completely contradicted public statements by CCP.
He was called on his BS then he started to whine about the CPM to cover up his pack of lies.
He was called on that as well.
This is not "guys fighting" this is Iron Wolf being a worthless d-bag |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
548
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:28:00 -
[60] - Quote
This is easily one of the best threads this forum has ever seen. |
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Grimmiers
ZionTCD
183
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Posted - 2013.07.01 07:02:00 -
[61] - Quote
This game needs more rpg elements after they fix the mechanics. pub matches should've even have been considered. |
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CCP Frame
C C P C C P Alliance
1197
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Posted - 2013.07.01 07:07:00 -
[62] - Quote
Thread derailed into troll baiting and flame wars. Thread is now locked. For your constructive feedback please post in Feedback/Requests forum section. Thank you. |
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