DUST Search - Last of Us makes no party matchmaking 2 weeks after release, why can't Dust?

Delta 749 wrote:

So its the publics fault that they are frustrated with CCPs lack of communication which is nothing recent and has been going on for a long time
Its the publics fault they misunderstand what the CPM does even though no current member of the CPM has decided to make a comprehensive post of what CCP expects from the CPM, what you actually do, or listing what you cannot discuss at all due to the NDA you all signed

Its the publics fault that when CCP hires a person dedicated to interacting with the community that we give her a chance she squanders by talking down to us and then vanishes when people dont like it
Its the publics fault that when you post something with huge gaping flaws in its logic that we point them out and you crawl back to your hug box where its not your fault and everyone is just being mean and picking on you for no reason?

"You choices matter and have consequences" Its touted as a selling point of this game but really I dont think you or CCP really grasp what it means, you and them have all made choices from what you decide to say, how you decide to say and them from what they implement, how they do so, what they decide to work on and when and all those choices made have consequences and the satisfaction or lack thereof the community has with them and you is one of those consequences

Now go and try to find someone who will eat up your bullshit, I'm sure plenty of fanboys will but Im not one of them


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Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5508	Posted - 2013.06.30 23:38:00 - [1] - Quote Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches. Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5510	Posted - 2013.07.01 00:00:00 - [2] - Quote hooc roht wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches. Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle. There are design considerations in matchmaking though from the fact that not all humans are perfect, accounting for luck, and of course bad luck or bad days and be resistant to hiccups and the sorts. I mean this ain't cheese and WP/SP/KDR alone is not a means to the end results. I mean what if one day you decided you know what I want to play a new class, all of a sudden you're going to start sucking in pubs until the system realizes what you are doing and knocks you down a peg or two. Vs the other thing purposely losing or swapping sets just to get knocked down a peg so you can go pwn some noobs again and not fight people of your own level (a problem in halo 2) Why are you such a worthless lying pile of crap Iron wolf? CCP said during E3 that matchmaking would be based on gear....not how good you do in matches. This isn't the first time i have caught you feeding us garbage....I am getting kind of sick of it. Because **** changes, gear does not determine skill, and getting the metrics on skill based are probably much harder in programming. What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride. I mean you're taking human input, layering it into the nuances of this game, then spitting out a rank that when you do matchmaking the players lumped together would be in tolerance. All via a math problem because that is the only language computers really understand.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5511	Posted - 2013.07.01 00:21:00 - [3] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Ok so let me get this straight If I want to be CPM all I have to do is brown nose and defend CCP with even more fervor than this? Damn thats gonna be hard Actually it's far less about brown nosing and actually giving CCP a semblance of respect and understanding what is going on instead of using the position to attack them at every chance some folks in the community takes.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5511	Posted - 2013.07.01 00:23:00 - [4] - Quote hooc roht wrote: When you find yourself in a hole quit digging. You made a post claiming a reason why CCP is taking so long. That reason was easily falsified....now you are just throwing up smoke and mirrors. Smoke - "Because **** changes" Mirrors - "What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride." You are a real piece of work Iron Wolf. And people wonder why the CSM doesn't show up on the forums any more either.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5513	Posted - 2013.07.01 01:11:00 - [5] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Actually most folks in the community think the CPM should have been elected from the playerbase by the playerbase to present our issues to CCP rather than shielding them and being yes men You want to talk about respect and understanding where is the respect and understanding of the viewpoints of the people you are supposedly supposed to be representing? And if you don't like being treated the way you are due to your actions then harden the **** up or quit the CPM position No but its behavior of the public that drives the Developers and Community people into little corners like cools kid's clubs that starts a division in the community so the vitriol behavior of the few is and always will be extremely harmful. I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections because of the quality of members available for election and misunderstanding positions of what the CPM does. I mean this conversation here is providing more flack for their argument. The IRC is another former favorite route of communication but people attacking CCP every chance they get is scaring them away just about. I mean I have a hard time talking about Dust 514 without getting attacked in that channel by one individual. Because of this IRC has become a worthless outlet of communication entirely because of it.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5513	Posted - 2013.07.01 01:33:00 - [6] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: But see, this is just a sign of how badly CCP sucks, because a good developer would keep trying to talk to people in a reasonable manner while entitled teenagers tell them they don't deserve their jobs and should all be fired and have their game given to [insert company here] that would actually be able to make it work right. Well it certainly doesn't help when a blue tag posts some useful information then the first thing some of the worst forum goes do is turn around and twist it into something horrible and more hate generating. I mean yeah the toxicity is probably from the lack of communication and it would be bad idea for me to start pointing fingers. However, it is the public community's responsibility to be civil and respectful if they truly do ever want CCP to opening up. Bad posters and toxic posters are sitting on the box and not letting CCP express themselves. I am just afraid if the public cannot be respectful to even each other (and yes people have began attacking each other) or the CPM, what chances are they are going to remain respectful of CCP developer posts?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5513	Posted - 2013.07.01 01:36:00 - [7] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: So its the publics fault that they are frustrated with CCPs lack of communication which is nothing recent and has been going on for a long time Its the publics fault they misunderstand what the CPM does even though no current member of the CPM has decided to make a comprehensive post of what CCP expects from the CPM, what you actually do, or listing what you cannot discuss at all due to the NDA you all signed Its the publics fault that when CCP hires a person dedicated to interacting with the community that we give her a chance she squanders by talking down to us and then vanishes when people dont like it Its the publics fault that when you post something with huge gaping flaws in its logic that we point them out and you crawl back to your hug box where its not your fault and everyone is just being mean and picking on you for no reason? "You choices matter and have consequences" Its touted as a selling point of this game but really I dont think you or CCP really grasp what it means, you and them have all made choices from what you decide to say, how you decide to say and them from what they implement, how they do so, what they decide to work on and when and all those choices made have consequences and the satisfaction or lack thereof the community has with them and you is one of those consequences Now go and try to find someone who will eat up your bullshit, I'm sure plenty of fanboys will but Im not one of them I remember a very similar type of reply when the CPM did try to explain what they do. I mean the CPM been under constant attack before anyone has been seated really or even names were called out. I mean I can prattle on all day what the CPM does but why considering knowing what the reply is going to be.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5514	Posted - 2013.07.01 01:53:00 - [8] - Quote hooc roht wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections The fact that you are not calling for elections immediately when this going on or resigning (which would force the CPM to either have an election or expose themselves as scum) only proves how much of a worthless pile of garbage you are. Hell you don't even have the balls to tell us who is saying this. Or even to make a post on the forums to tell the players about it. Instead you use this claim as hand waving and distraction in a thread about a completely different subject when you are caught feeding us lies and garbage. You are a worm. Congratulations you sold yourself a lie and made up something that wasn't true. Also if you want to find out who called for this concept you should possibly lurk in the CPM forum section. Yes I would love to tell you whom but that was in the private chambers and I have to respect that much with fellow members as well.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5514	Posted - 2013.07.01 03:01:00 - [9] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: What about you guys stop fighting over CPM "responsibilities"? It doesn't have anything to do with poor matchmaking system. -XOXO I have had discussions with CCP Nullarbor who is behind the new matchmaking system and as I described before he's trying to solve the conundrum of interpreting player skill into something translatable and useful for gaging a player's ability that would fit everyone's profile of play. It's been difficult work but its being worked on right now. There have been other discussions about other systems and means of social increasing activities (team deployment) and I am sure you can gleam into that by Dev post searching those up. Dust 514 also does have plans for squad bonuses and the sorts but has to answer the tricky questions of design such as hierarchy requirements and the sorts I mean what if the Field Commander had +5% weapon damage bonus but his Squad Captain had only +3% weapon damage bonus?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5518	Posted - 2013.07.01 04:51:00 - [10] - Quote Public IRC was a decent and valid outlet of information and communication because it was valued in real time. I mean can you imagine working with a developer in real time on resolving an issue involving lag or some sort of easily reproducable bug they want to see in action? I mean there have been plenty of good volunteers willing to help CCP via IRC on things like these but lately they been poking the CPM instead. (IMO should be ISD Bughunter division)