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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.30 21:50:00 -
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This matchmaking mode is for people who aren't interested in squading with their friends to pubstomp the bluedots. A bluedot only matchmaking and very newbie friendly. You get to play only with randoms. Wait isn't Dust an MMO? Why are we having matchmaking again?
-XOXO |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
185
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Posted - 2013.06.30 21:52:00 -
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At this point, just let it go.
We all know what Dust is.
Just go enjoy the Last of Us. Like me.
Right now. |
richiesutie 2
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
71
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Posted - 2013.06.30 21:56:00 -
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Naughty Dog>CCP Everyone knows that. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2441
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:12:00 -
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Pretty sure TLoU has more people playing the MP than people playing DUST, so they can afford to split the community up and still have enough people to fill up the lobbies, which to be fair are only 4v4. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1229
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:27:00 -
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CCP already announced monthly updates, which is unheard of in console gaming. What more do you want? |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
210
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:28:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CCP already announced monthly updates, which is unheard of in console gaming. What more do you want?
GOOD monthly updates.
Monthly crap is still crap. |
Tectonious Falcon
Phaze O n e
616
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:39:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CCP already announced monthly updates, which is unheard of in console gaming. What more do you want? GOOD monthly updates. Monthly crap is still crap.
We haven't even had the first monthly update yet, so shut up until then
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Sotapopthegrey gay
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:52:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CCP already announced monthly updates, which is unheard of in console gaming. What more do you want? GOOD monthly updates. Monthly crap is still crap. We haven't even had the first monthly update yet, so shut up until then
yea we have, look on dev blogs. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
227
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:53:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:This matchmaking mode is for people who aren't interested in squading with their friends to pubstomp the bluedots. A bluedot only matchmaking and very newbie friendly. You get to play only with randoms. Wait isn't Dust an MMO? Why are we having matchmaking again?
-XOXO Who are you? |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
141
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:56:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Pretty sure TLoU has more people playing the MP than people playing DUST, so they can afford to split the community up and still have enough people to fill up the lobbies, which to be fair are only 4v4.
and they'll all be gone in 3 months. thanks. |
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Tectonious Falcon
Phaze O n e
616
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:57:00 -
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Sotapopthegrey gay wrote:Tectonious Falcon wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CCP already announced monthly updates, which is unheard of in console gaming. What more do you want? GOOD monthly updates. Monthly crap is still crap. We haven't even had the first monthly update yet, so shut up until then yea we have, look on dev blogs.
What was it called?
Uprising 1.2 hasn't released yet, so unless I missed something... |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
399
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Posted - 2013.06.30 22:59:00 -
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low genius wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Pretty sure TLoU has more people playing the MP than people playing DUST, so they can afford to split the community up and still have enough people to fill up the lobbies, which to be fair are only 4v4. and they'll all be gone in 3 months. thanks.
so will a lot of the dust players now. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
146
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:27:00 -
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Quote:Last of Us makes no party matchmaking 2 weeks after release, why can't Dust?
Cuz Naughty Dog is the **** and CCP is ****.
Plus i think CCP intended for new players to get stomped and give uber powers not based on skill but how long you have played.
They just didn't realize that new players would not play their game for very long and would simply quit after less then a week.
Seriously they designed the game this way...and the same guys who designed it this way have to eat crow and implement a matchmaking system that absolutely undermines their intent of how the game works.
The Devs are intentionally dragging their feet because they don't want to do it. Seriously i could write a program that separates players by how much SP they have into tiers and i have not written a piece of code in over a decade. it is not hard...yet they claim it is hard.
The existence of the academy proves that it is not hard. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
531
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:32:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:This matchmaking mode is for people who aren't interested in squading with their friends to pubstomp the bluedots. A bluedot only matchmaking and very newbie friendly. You get to play only with randoms. Wait isn't Dust an MMO? Why are we having matchmaking again?
-XOXO Because their matchmaking system is most likely based around KDR like most other shooters. In Dust the matchmaking system has to factor in multiple stats to get an actual balanced game which takes longer. Also Naughty Dog has more employees. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5508
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:38:00 -
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Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches.
Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
146
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches.
Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle.
There are design considerations in matchmaking though from the fact that not all humans are perfect, accounting for luck, and of course bad luck or bad days and be resistant to hiccups and the sorts. I mean this ain't cheese and WP/SP/KDR alone is not a means to the end results.
I mean what if one day you decided you know what I want to play a new class, all of a sudden you're going to start sucking in pubs until the system realizes what you are doing and knocks you down a peg or two.
Vs the other thing
purposely losing or swapping sets just to get knocked down a peg so you can go pwn some noobs again and not fight people of your own level (a problem in halo 2)
Why are you such a worthless lying pile of crap Iron wolf?
CCP said during E3 that matchmaking would be based on gear....not how good you do in matches.
This isn't the first time i have caught you feeding us garbage....I am getting kind of sick of it. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5510
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:00:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches.
Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle.
There are design considerations in matchmaking though from the fact that not all humans are perfect, accounting for luck, and of course bad luck or bad days and be resistant to hiccups and the sorts. I mean this ain't cheese and WP/SP/KDR alone is not a means to the end results.
I mean what if one day you decided you know what I want to play a new class, all of a sudden you're going to start sucking in pubs until the system realizes what you are doing and knocks you down a peg or two.
Vs the other thing
purposely losing or swapping sets just to get knocked down a peg so you can go pwn some noobs again and not fight people of your own level (a problem in halo 2) Why are you such a worthless lying pile of crap Iron wolf? CCP said during E3 that matchmaking would be based on gear....not how good you do in matches. This isn't the first time i have caught you feeding us garbage....I am getting kind of sick of it.
Because **** changes, gear does not determine skill, and getting the metrics on skill based are probably much harder in programming. What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride.
I mean you're taking human input, layering it into the nuances of this game, then spitting out a rank that when you do matchmaking the players lumped together would be in tolerance. All via a math problem because that is the only language computers really understand. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
689
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:08:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches.
Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle.
There are design considerations in matchmaking though from the fact that not all humans are perfect, accounting for luck, and of course bad luck or bad days and be resistant to hiccups and the sorts. I mean this ain't cheese and WP/SP/KDR alone is not a means to the end results.
I mean what if one day you decided you know what I want to play a new class, all of a sudden you're going to start sucking in pubs until the system realizes what you are doing and knocks you down a peg or two.
Vs the other thing
purposely losing or swapping sets just to get knocked down a peg so you can go pwn some noobs again and not fight people of your own level (a problem in halo 2) Why are you such a worthless lying pile of crap Iron wolf? CCP said during E3 that matchmaking would be based on gear....not how good you do in matches. This isn't the first time i have caught you feeding us garbage....I am getting kind of sick of it. Because **** changes, gear does not determine skill, and getting the metrics on skill based are probably much harder in programming. What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride. I mean you're taking human input, layering it into the nuances of this game, then spitting out a rank that when you do matchmaking the players lumped together would be in tolerance. All via a math problem because that is the only language computers really understand.
Ok so let me get this straight If I want to be CPM all I have to do is brown nose and defend CCP with even more fervor than this?
Damn thats gonna be hard |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
147
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Chances are its a server side change on ND's part. Similar to the update playlists in Halo 4, all the rules are pre-existing its a matter of flipping switches.
Squad Formation in Dust 514 has further consequences involved than most other games such as squad leader bonusing. Which is a system not in yet but I suspect its one of those things checked on the initial spawn and load into battle.
There are design considerations in matchmaking though from the fact that not all humans are perfect, accounting for luck, and of course bad luck or bad days and be resistant to hiccups and the sorts. I mean this ain't cheese and WP/SP/KDR alone is not a means to the end results.
I mean what if one day you decided you know what I want to play a new class, all of a sudden you're going to start sucking in pubs until the system realizes what you are doing and knocks you down a peg or two.
Vs the other thing
purposely losing or swapping sets just to get knocked down a peg so you can go pwn some noobs again and not fight people of your own level (a problem in halo 2) Why are you such a worthless lying pile of crap Iron wolf? CCP said during E3 that matchmaking would be based on gear....not how good you do in matches. This isn't the first time i have caught you feeding us garbage....I am getting kind of sick of it. Because **** changes, gear does not determine skill, and getting the metrics on skill based are probably much harder in programming. What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride. I mean you're taking human input, layering it into the nuances of this game, then spitting out a rank that when you do matchmaking the players lumped together would be in tolerance. All via a math problem because that is the only language computers really understand.
When you find yourself in a hole quit digging.
You made a post claiming a reason why CCP is taking so long. That reason was easily falsified....now you are just throwing up smoke and mirrors.
Smoke - "Because **** changes" Mirrors - "What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride."
You are a real piece of work Iron Wolf. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5511
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:21:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
Ok so let me get this straight If I want to be CPM all I have to do is brown nose and defend CCP with even more fervor than this?
Damn thats gonna be hard
Actually it's far less about brown nosing and actually giving CCP a semblance of respect and understanding what is going on instead of using the position to attack them at every chance some folks in the community takes. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5511
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:23:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:
When you find yourself in a hole quit digging.
You made a post claiming a reason why CCP is taking so long. That reason was easily falsified....now you are just throwing up smoke and mirrors.
Smoke - "Because **** changes" Mirrors - "What everything I post is never a promise on part of CCP and if you continue to believe that you are in for a sore ride."
You are a real piece of work Iron Wolf.
And people wonder why the CSM doesn't show up on the forums any more either. |
Shrapnels
The Order 1886
141
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:24:00 -
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lol..........
can't believe people don't realize how EASY it is to make game rooms for Full Random/No Party Teams.
CCP should do this:
Instant Battles are ALL, No Party Full random teams.
Mercenary Battles should start to include ALL game modes and be for Party and Solo players.
They could also just Add a Moshpit game mode into Instant Battle tab but....
Biggest problem to all of this is the Coding of the game. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
531
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:38:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote:lol..........
can't believe people don't realize how EASY it is to make game rooms for Full Random/No Party Teams.
CCP should do this:
Instant Battles are ALL, No Party Full random teams.
Mercenary Battles should start to include ALL game modes and be for Party and Solo players.
They could also just Add a Moshpit game mode into Instant Battle tab but....
Biggest problem to all of this is the Coding of the game. All I want is a no squad fking game mode. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
634
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:42:00 -
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as if dust matchmaking would actually run bugfree.. do u really want more disconnects than already served? be careful for what you wish for |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
399
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:44:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Shrapnels wrote:lol..........
can't believe people don't realize how EASY it is to make game rooms for Full Random/No Party Teams.
CCP should do this:
Instant Battles are ALL, No Party Full random teams.
Mercenary Battles should start to include ALL game modes and be for Party and Solo players.
They could also just Add a Moshpit game mode into Instant Battle tab but....
Biggest problem to all of this is the Coding of the game. All I want is a no squad fking game mode.
Its hard with this game. See.. they can make it fun or they can go the "second job" route that is eve. I'm guessing which direction they are going with. "Your choices matter" and all that booblah, they want to force people to care about the eve side of things, hence probably this game is for them. As attracting new players.. it's gonna be tough if they can't balance the all the crap that keeps that side messed up cause it's trying hard to stay in line with eve.
Kain once mentioned is should not be an eve FPS but a FPS in the new eden universe. sadly it feels like the first. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
691
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:49:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Ok so let me get this straight If I want to be CPM all I have to do is brown nose and defend CCP with even more fervor than this?
Damn thats gonna be hard
Actually it's far less about brown nosing and actually giving CCP a semblance of respect and understanding what is going on instead of using the position to attack them at every chance some folks in the community takes.
Actually most folks in the community think the CPM should have been elected from the playerbase by the playerbase to present our issues to CCP rather than shielding them and being yes men You want to talk about respect and understanding where is the respect and understanding of the viewpoints of the people you are supposedly supposed to be representing?
And if you dont like being treated the way you are due to your actions then harden the **** up or quit the CPM position |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2126
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:59:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:This matchmaking mode is for people who aren't interested in squading with their friends to pubstomp the bluedots. A bluedot only matchmaking and very newbie friendly. You get to play only with randoms. Wait isn't Dust an MMO? Why are we having matchmaking again?
-XOXO Team game.
Deal with it. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5513
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:11:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
Actually most folks in the community think the CPM should have been elected from the playerbase by the playerbase to present our issues to CCP rather than shielding them and being yes men You want to talk about respect and understanding where is the respect and understanding of the viewpoints of the people you are supposedly supposed to be representing?
And if you don't like being treated the way you are due to your actions then harden the **** up or quit the CPM position
No but its behavior of the public that drives the Developers and Community people into little corners like cools kid's clubs that starts a division in the community so the vitriol behavior of the few is and always will be extremely harmful.
I mean you now have two members of the CPM and various community members of Dust saying that we should probably not have elections because of the quality of members available for election and misunderstanding positions of what the CPM does.
I mean this conversation here is providing more flack for their argument. The IRC is another former favorite route of communication but people attacking CCP every chance they get is scaring them away just about. I mean I have a hard time talking about Dust 514 without getting attacked in that channel by one individual. Because of this IRC has become a worthless outlet of communication entirely because of it. |
Imp Smash
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
144
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:11:00 -
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Also - consider that Dust is broken on a lot of levels. It's pretty damn broken when virtually all the top corps pull out of the flagship game mode and go do a carebear agreement because Dust doesn't run right. I want more game modes - I want more maps - bu more than anything I want Dust to run correctly. So I am betting CCP is prioritizing their time on getting the game workin smooth and correctly. THEN add bells and whistles.
Just a guess though. |
Xender17
Intrepidus XI Omega Commission
190
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:14:00 -
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Dust is meant to put interest and focus on teamwork. Most reviews also say this. Adding a mode that defeats a games purpose doesn't make much sense. |
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