Skirmish 1.0 isn't possible anymore because according to Logic Loop the code is 'buried' underneath everything and its not able to be brought back to the surface because of it. In other words the infrastructure that made 1.0 possible isn't feasible to bring out anymore without breaking everything else.

However Skirmish 3.0 will feature 'staging' where battles can go mobile over larger areas is still being designed and it will peacefully co-exist with 2.0.

Is there an ETA on skirmish 3.0?

Unfortunately not yet.

Unfortunately not yet.

Skirmish 1.0 isn't possible anymore because according to Logic Loop the code is 'buried' underneath everything and its not able to be brought back to the surface because of it. In other words the infrastructure that made 1.0 possible isn't feasible to bring out anymore without breaking everything else.

However Skirmish 3.0 will feature 'staging' where battles can go mobile over larger areas is still being designed and it will peacefully co-exist with 2.0.

So no new game modes for 4-5 years?

Translation: we were lied to?

There is no such thing as "buried source code" .

A real new map can enable skirmish 1.0 .

Sighs and looks at PS4 preorder and decides it no longer matters what is promised.

If it is connected to a lot of other functions and spread around many files then yes it can be buried. I've done it a few times in my projects.

Translation: we were lied to?

There is no such thing as "buried source code" .

A real new map can enable skirmish 1.0 .

Sighs and looks at PS4 preorder and decides it no longer matters what is promised.

You have to wonder how software would be architected in such a way these days. "Buried code". Sounds like "code" for we destroyed it to get other stuff done.

If the PS4 is capable of running CCP's Carbon Engine, which I believe it is, that will help a great deal on the programming side for Dust. Likely most major updates such as additional game modes and more EVE integration are likely not to happen until Dust is up and running with Carbon on the PS4.

If the PS4 is capable of running CCP's Carbon Engine, which I believe it is, that will help a great deal on the programming side for Dust. Likely most major updates such as additional game modes and more EVE integration are likely not to happen until Dust is up and running with Carbon on the PS4.

People need to start watching the videos by them. I personally LOVE that channel.

Dust 1.2 Still Playing the same 3 games.

This is probably a more accurate translation of it. There are a few things that need to get wrecking ball treatment done to it. I mean I knew since Fanfest that Skirmish 1.0 is turned off.

To switch back to the Carbon engine would take up WAY too much time and money. So I highly doubt they'll use the Carbon engine. Well at least for quite a few years. (Changing from one engine to another is pretty much like making a brand new game)

Dust is not likely to last if it's still going to run on Unreal 3 for too long, it's old, out dated, and 4 is just around the corner. Furthermore it's not CCP's main experience in regards to programming. Familiarity with an engine cuts way down on man hours needed to program for said engine, and out-sourcing is often more expensive then in-house labor. Also Dust originally ran on Carbon, so it's not inconceivable given Dust's longterm road map that it's being developed for the long run on Carbon while in the short term for Unreal.

Dust is not likely to last if it's still going to run on Unreal 3 for too long, it's old, out dated, and 4 is just around the corner. Furthermore it's not CCP's main experience in regards to programming. Familiarity with an engine cuts way down on man hours needed to program for said engine, and out-sourcing is often more expensive then in-house labor. Also Dust originally ran on Carbon, so it's not inconceivable given Dust's longterm road map that it's being developed for the long run on Carbon while in the short term for Unreal.

Translation: we were lied to?

There is no such thing as "buried source code" .

A real new map can enable skirmish 1.0 .

Sighs and looks at PS4 preorder and decides it no longer matters what is promised.

UE3 is still being updated to this day. Also CCP modifies the engine to work better. Seriously there have been MANY games made with the UE3 engine in recent years. They just modify it to make it better.

Switching back to their Carbon engine would cause more problems then it's worth. If they do go back it won't be for at the very least 4 years (Probably quite a few more actually which by then CCP would know UE3 like the back of their hands. )

The developers that created those games using the UE3 engine have been tinkering with it for YEARS. They know its dirty little secrets, they know how to coerce it into performing to the best of its sexy abilities.

CCP took the UE3 without ever using it, not knowing how to use it, and then proceeded to learn how to use it, because they had no other choice if they were going to provide us with their game.

Switching to the engine CCP themselves created will cause ZERO problems, as long as the PS4 can handle it...which judging by the specs...it can.

UE3 is the readheaded step child in the CCP family, and it WILL get put up for adoption.

Edit - and anyways, UE3 is still an old dog, regardless of how many tricks it can do.

If CCP can't utilize one of the simplest engines for consoles then there is no hope for them. For now i'm going to stop arguing because clearly you don't know nothing about game development.

Bye.

So what game have you developed on the UE3? Clearly you have the knowledge.

I'm currently in college for game development and have done a couple of projects with UE3. Although it's called UDK when you use it for non commercial use but has the same features as UE3.

Now bye.

Again, what game have you developed on the UE3? Spouting your hopes and dreams while in school doesn't give credibility to your boast.

How about you tell me your experience with making games. If you have non then you shouldn't be arguing with me since you have no idea what your talking about.

1 - I never brought up my experience in game development as a basis to imply my opinion has more bearing than yours, as i have no desire to bring up pointless information.

2 - Until you work for CCP on Dust 514, you would have no idea on how easy/hard it is to develop Dust on the UE3.

Ok then dumbass.

Skirmish 1.0 isn't possible anymore because according to Logic Loop the code is 'buried' underneath everything and its not able to be brought back to the surface because of it. In other words the infrastructure that made 1.0 possible isn't feasible to bring out anymore without breaking everything else.

However Skirmish 3.0 will feature 'staging' where battles can go mobile over larger areas is still being designed and it will peacefully co-exist with 2.0.

Sorry man. That isn't how development/programming works. Code doesn't get "buried" unless you have straight up "spaghetti code" and that is seriously not good. But it would certainly explain the nose dive in QA we are suffering. It also would explain the horrible lag and the sheer dearth of bugs that plague this game.

1 - I never brought up my experience in game development as a basis to imply my opinion has more bearing than yours, as i have no desire to bring up pointless information.

2 - Until you work for CCP on Dust 514, you would have no idea on how easy/hard it is to develop Dust on the UE3.

Switching to the engine CCP themselves created will cause ZERO problems

Grrr, new game modes, Need New Gamemodes!

How long do they think people will grind every week to the same 3 gamemodes?

Do something to make this game different, less of the same old boring and more fun again. Adding new heavy suits, that will only be used for camping, not going to make this game any better. At best it's a sideways move.

You have to wonder how software would be architected in such a way these days. "Buried code". Sounds like "code" for we destroyed it to get other stuff done.

imagine a RAID mode, a team needs to plant and detonate several objectives while the other protect the objectives, respawn by waves (once an objective is detonated the raiding team can respawn again), and the defending team respawn by waves on timer, if a team is completedly neutralize from the battlefield the game is over, the defending team has no idea where the raiding team spawns, the defending team only knows the area in where the objectives are, by this i mean the defending team doent know what the raiding team is targeting, there are several areas with an objective on the map, now imagine it on a city, a big city, the defending team has structures set for defense, always set at night, 48 mercs at once on that mode, awesome?

Grrr, new game modes, Need New Gamemodes!

How long do they think people will grind every week to the same 3 gamemodes?

Do something to make this game different, less of the same old boring and more fun again. Adding new heavy suits, that will only be used for camping, not going to make this game any better. At best it's a sideways move.

Suck as it may, it's best to focus on stabilizing the core issues with Dust, like aiming before adding additional game modes. Basically would it translate to more code that is not functioning as intended.

There is no such thing as "buried source code" .

No! Don't you dare complain about gamemodes when we finally got them to focus on fixing the bugs. There is NOT going to be new anything until bugs get fixed. Think about this the next time you want new content.

If the PS4 is capable of running CCP's Carbon Engine, which I believe it is, that will help a great deal on the programming side for Dust. Likely most major updates such as additional game modes and more EVE integration are likely not to happen until Dust is up and running with Carbon on the PS4.

No! Don't you dare complain about gamemodes when we finally got them to focus on fixing the bugs. There is NOT going to be new anything until bugs get fixed. Think about this the next time you want new content.

Skirmish 1.0 isn't possible anymore because according to Logic Loop the code is 'buried' underneath everything and its not able to be brought back to the surface because of it. In other words the infrastructure that made 1.0 possible isn't feasible to bring out anymore without breaking everything else.

However Skirmish 3.0 will feature 'staging' where battles can go mobile over larger areas is still being designed and it will peacefully co-exist with 2.0.