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Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:02:00 -
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I been thinking why CCP ddint reset the ppl that play open and beta version of dust 514?
Well let explore that:[i] I wonder why CCP didn't reset the current player that play the open beta til may 14 when the game came out, I always wonder why? I started playing this game on May 14 like all new player before me, u be thinking that everyone going to be on the same level playing field as u, same suit, same weapon, same skill point which is at 500,000 naw and I wonder why is that everyone is higher than me on day one and look like they been playing for year and year In stuff. so I wonder if game that in a beta mode and u basically earn almost everything on there kill, weapon, dropsuit, skill level, all of that, may 14 are u saying that all of them didn't get reset when the game came out. So u know is it unfair to the new player because why they might just give up the game because they no way they can make it. and don't say oh im a crybaby because im talking nonsense something that already been discussed a long time ago whatever or not that CCP should reset all of the current player stat and skill to make it fair for new be on the same playing field. if ccp did just say im done with this game because that. after all know that experience u been doing, after all the learning curve just experience, u know what thing u need to get. if I ever did play the beta of this game and ccp reset everything I just do it again and have fun with it not just making a excuse and say im done because reset my stuff so the new player get a chance to whoop are **** in.
What do u think thou should CCP done what they should of did reset ppl that play beta stat or leave it like so they brag about all stuff they earn for 4 month on open beta.
p.s. Don't be a jack**** when u decide on what to say ok just be honest. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
404
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:05:00 -
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I played Beta since the start, before people could even "buy into it," and I've been reset at least three times...
Good god, if I really got to keep the year+ SP and ISK... Oh lordy... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
268
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:09:00 -
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I wouldn't have minded being reset on release as long as they had something like a x2 SP weeks or summat to allow both new players to get SP, but also vets to get that much closer to where they were. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
312
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:10:00 -
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iv already gone through several resets in closed beta and the beginning of open beta, if they input another reset a lot of players would quit more |
B Kent
Lost Souls of New Eden PMC
1
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:10:00 -
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There have been a number of full resets throughout Dust's development. If there hadn't been, the game would be unplayable.
Also, formatting is your friend. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:12:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I played Beta since the start, before people could even "buy into it," and I've been reset at least three times...
Good god, if I really got to keep the year+ SP and ISK... Oh lordy...
ok but I was trying to say is what if CCP did reset ur stat on lunch day of may 14 would u still play the game or quit |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
404
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:13:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I played Beta since the start, before people could even "buy into it," and I've been reset at least three times...
Good god, if I really got to keep the year+ SP and ISK... Oh lordy... ok but I was trying to say is what if CCP did reset ur stat on lunch day of may 14 would u still play the game or quit
I'd still play, no doubt about it. |
Taurion Bruni
Nightingale Logistics Pty Ltd
80
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:14:00 -
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Just remember your opinion a few years from now when the new players want to be on your level, and request that the time you spent on this game be wiped clean
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Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:17:00 -
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B Kent wrote:There have been a number of full resets throughout Dust's development. If there hadn't been, the game would be unplayable.
Also, formatting is your friend.
Ok but u do realize that full reset where ppl doing respec right not just some full reset what im talking is that why didn't CCP reset the current that play beta mode ok if there game was unplayable give me good reason why. because the veteran would not play it because there stat got reset or that they don't want to be compare to a scrub player or noob player which one is it. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
518
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:30:00 -
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WTF is this dude trying to say?
Sounds about as dumb as his ability to express himself. |
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
154
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:31:00 -
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Thats probably because people had to grind for their SP and losing it would feel like losing months of game time.
CCP shouldve thought about giving players SP on top of SP they earned themselves, that way the players wont feel like they had to work for all of it themselves and wouldnt mind a reset.
Having players grind to test their game? I feel like they wasted beta on gaming and not testing. I'd imagine we'd have a very different game had everyone been able to max out everything and focus on testing/balancing instead of trying to unlock things. Hell 1 week of 999,999,999 SP before Uprising couldve done a great deal for this game. |
Tectonious Falcon
Phaze O n e
597
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:45:00 -
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The open beta was available to everyone.
It's your fault if you decided not to play. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1030
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:47:00 -
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I'd probably quit if they'd reset on the 14th because they explicitly said they wouldn't reset again. That reason was I downloaded the open beta. In other games that have long-term grind mechanics, I avoid playing betas if they're going to reset. Why waste time when it's still in testing?
Whereas, even if the game has issues, if your progress is saved, there's a reason to play a beta at that point. At the point at which it was "open", it was advertised on the PSN (where I saw it) and anyone could pick it up if they were so inclined. So, I don't think post-open-beta is a particularly exclusive club.
It's like saying people that played an MMO at launch and have items that no longer drop, etc. should be reset when you start playing a year later. They may have advantages over you, but the same opportunities were open to you.
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B Kent
Lost Souls of New Eden PMC
1
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:48:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:B Kent wrote:There have been a number of full resets throughout Dust's development. If there hadn't been, the game would be unplayable.
Also, formatting is your friend. Ok but u do realize that full reset where ppl doing respec right not just some full reset what im talking is that why didn't CCP reset the current that play beta mode ok if there game was unplayable give me good reason why. because the veteran would not play it because there stat got reset or that they don't want to be compare to a scrub player or noob player which one is it.
When I say reset, I mean SP reset to zero. A "Respec" is being allowed to reallocate your SP without the overall accumulated amount changing. IMO, it's not unreasonable to think that beta testers would have their accumulated goodies reset upon commercial release of an MMO. Slippery slope though, this could alienate player base. Most developers choose a middle ground, ie allowing players from beta to have certain souvenirs while not creating too much imbalance on day one.
But as stated before, give this game some time. You'll be the one with a leg up before you know it, it's cyclical. |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
14
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:50:00 -
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Why would they? Anyone could've played during the open beta. That's like saying a guy that joins 5 years from now is at an unfair advantage. The closed beta I can understand, but anyone could've joined the open beta. |
Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:58:00 -
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A bunch of tryhards cried about it op. Those same tryhards didn't treat the beta as a beta, it was simply a way to get a massive advantage (afk farming anybody?) The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset.
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
120
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Posted - 2013.06.29 03:59:00 -
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It's wouldnt have mattered i the long run, the state of the game wounldnt have changed from what we see now,it would just delaying the inevitable by a month(booster work wonders) and in the grand scheme of things not worth it. |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
14
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Posted - 2013.06.29 04:03:00 -
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The point is, there were resets because not everyone could play, there were no resets for open beta because you could all play. Why you waited till release? I don't know, that's your problem though. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 04:16:00 -
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mollerz wrote:WTF is this dude trying to say?
Sounds about as dumb as his ability to express himself.
Oh WTF im trying to say ok let me explain to u what I was trying to say I was wondering why CCP didn't reset the current ppl stat that play the beta mode until may 14 when the game came out. that what im talking about. if u got some dumb lame line to tell me be my guess. |
Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.06.29 04:16:00 -
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Alucard Fang wrote:The point is, there were resets because not everyone could play, there were no resets for open beta because you could all play. Why you waited till release? I don't know, that's your problem though.
You are full of it. No reset because vets had a massive cry /thread |
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Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 04:19:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:The open beta was available to everyone.
It's your fault if you decided not to play.
So u saying that it our fault that we didn't play the beta mode or that just a excuses on ur part maybe ur right I didn't play the beta because I never heard heard of this until may 14 on a youtube AD. but funny thou because should reset the ppl that play beta mode and would been a lot better. |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
14
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Posted - 2013.06.29 04:28:00 -
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Most open betas don't have character resets. The upcoming Final Fantasy XIV won't, for example. This game has been pretty well know for years. Not to mention if you even had a PS3 even when the game was in beta it was plastered all over the PS Store. Don't blame us because you didn't play it earlier.
Are we supposed to feel sorry for some guy that joins 5 years from now? |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
140
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Posted - 2013.06.29 05:11:00 -
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Look closely kiddies. this is the type of ****** that CCP has to cater to in order to obtain new players.
interesting isn't? |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
205
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Posted - 2013.06.29 05:14:00 -
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Drud Green wrote:A bunch of tryhards cried about it op. Those same tryhards didn't treat the beta as a beta, it was simply a way to get a massive advantage (afk farming anybody?) The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset.
Ah ha, there's that word again "tryhards". Does it actually work? You know, does it actually make you feel better if you proclaim they're a tryhard when you get owned by someone more skilled?
And why should anyone not tryhard, we all play to win no? I know I'm not casually strolling through the battlefield with my HMG taking it easy, I'm trying to win.
By the way AFK farming started long after CCP announced No More Resets PERIOD, barring some sort of catastrophe. |
Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
90
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Posted - 2013.06.29 05:29:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:Drud Green wrote:A bunch of tryhards cried about it op. Those same tryhards didn't treat the beta as a beta, it was simply a way to get a massive advantage (afk farming anybody?) The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset.
Ah ha, there's that word again "tryhards". Does it actually work? You know, does it actually make you feel better if you proclaim they're a tryhard when you get owned by someone more skilled? And why should anyone not tryhard, we all play to win no? I know I'm not casually strolling through the battlefield with my HMG taking it easy, I'm trying to win. By the way AFK farming started long after CCP announced No More Resets PERIOD, barring some sort of catastrophe.
No, calling people a tryhard doesn't work as i barely play since uprising, can't get full games in my region and it's way to laggy playing in us or eu.
When you say 'more skilled', did you mean more skill points?
Tryhard = play to win Non-Tyrhard = play to have fun and win |
Delenne Arran
Ivory Hounds
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 05:45:00 -
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They didn't reset because the game was basically released at that point anyway. Anyone with a PS3 who wanted to play DUST has been able to do so since January 22. Someone who starts in October would be at the same disadvantage if they had done a reset. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2844
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Posted - 2013.06.29 05:48:00 -
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Really?
We ALL had the same starting point - open beta might as well been the real release of this game. The whole, "Game launch" didn't mean anything other then we can no longer say, "It's cool the game sux - just a beta." excuse. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2052
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Posted - 2013.06.29 06:06:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:I'd probably quit if they'd reset on the 14th because they explicitly said they wouldn't reset again. That reason was why I downloaded the open beta. In other games that have long-term grind mechanics, I avoid playing betas if they're going to reset. Why waste time when it's still in testing?
This. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2052
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Posted - 2013.06.29 06:16:00 -
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Drud wrote:The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset.
Don't say stupid ****.
Do you know what the main purpose behind an Open Beta is, aside from getting word out on the game? Stress testing the servers. In order to stress test the servers you need a high amount of players. How the hell do you think CCP was going to get the amount of people needed to properly do this when the build that they used for OB had already been around since pretty much September? They knew most of the vets wouldn't play this game without an Incentive.
No more SP resets was their incentive, it's not something people asked for, it's something CCP decided to do because they knew it was the only way to retain their existing customers.
This was CCP's choice.
Also, you had the same opportunity to play that everyone else did, it's not our problem if you didn't. |
Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
90
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Posted - 2013.06.29 06:26:00 -
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This should be a non issue, matchmaker matchmaker make me a match. There aren't really enough people on at any one time for a matchmaker to work, i can already join the same half empty game over n over. |
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Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
90
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Posted - 2013.06.29 06:35:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Drud wrote:The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset.
Don't say stupid ****. Do you know what the main purpose behind an Open Beta is, aside from getting word out on the game? Stress testing the servers. In order to stress test the servers you need a high amount of players. How the hell do you think CCP was going to get the amount of people needed to properly do this when the build that they used for OB had already been around since pretty much September? They knew most of the vets wouldn't play this game without an Incentive. No more SP resets was their incentive, it's not something people asked for, it's something CCP decided to do because they knew it was the only way to retain their existing customers. This was CCP's choice. Also, you had the same opportunity to play that everyone else did, it's not our problem if you didn't.
So your saying that because ccp made a bad game nobody would wan't to play it and they had to 'bribe' vets to stay? |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
725
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Posted - 2013.06.29 06:37:00 -
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This thread gave me cancer. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2947
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:24:00 -
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I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:28:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release.
U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2947
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:30:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN
I know. XD |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
44
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:35:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN
this is not CoD where you can catch up to someone in a weekend or BF3 where you catch up to someone in a couple hundred hours, if you want to catch up to a hardcore player you need to play like ******* 80 hours a week with both boosters for about 6 months, then youll probably have the same ammount of SP as him, there you go GG |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN I know. XD
NOW LISTSEN THE REASON U NEVER PROBLEM WAS LIKE I SAID IN FIRST U GUYS WERE AHEAD OF THE NEW PLAYER THAT IT. KNOW ON THIS POST PUT UP ONLY THING I WANT TO KNOW WAS WHAT IF CCP WOULD RESET THE PPL THAT PLAY BETA REGRADLESS OF IF THEY WOULD LOSE THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE OF IT OR GAIN NEW PLAYER. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2947
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:40:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN I know. XD NOW LISTSEN THE REASON U NEVER PROBLEM WAS LIKE I SAID IN FIRST U GUYS WERE AHEAD OF THE NEW PLAYER THAT IT. KNOW ON THIS POST PUT UP ONLY THING I WANT TO KNOW WAS WHAT IF CCP WOULD RESET THE PPL THAT PLAY BETA REGRADLESS OF IF THEY WOULD LOSE THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE OF IT OR GAIN NEW PLAYER.
Wow, I was just posting out of jest. I thought the XD smiley would have given you that hint about it. But guess you let that fly right over your head and decided to scream at me like that annoying guy in that classic cartoon show DILBERT. |
Tectonious Falcon
Phaze O n e
601
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:42:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN I know. XD NOW LISTSEN THE REASON U NEVER PROBLEM WAS LIKE I SAID IN FIRST U GUYS WERE AHEAD OF THE NEW PLAYER THAT IT. KNOW ON THIS POST PUT UP ONLY THING I WANT TO KNOW WAS WHAT IF CCP WOULD RESET THE PPL THAT PLAY BETA REGRADLESS OF IF THEY WOULD LOSE THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE OF IT OR GAIN NEW PLAYER.
Just because you were too stupid to download the open beta doesn't mean everyone else who put in hours of work should have to suffer.
As a side note, can you please try spelling things correctly? How about some punctuation? |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
770
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:00:00 -
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In one sense getting to keep your SP was a reward for helping to test the game, knowing full well that it was horribly broken in so many ways for the many months that we helped CCP out before release. You're lucky we got reset in January and don't have a full year's worth of SP over you.
In another sense, I think CCP probably wanted new players to see that the higher level weapons are worth getting - if we'd all started at zero on launch, everybody would be using only standard gear and new people wouldn't see the point in grinding for the better stuff. Coming into a game fresh and seeing someone completely wiping the field with a duvolle makes people think, 'wow! I better play lots to get to that weapon because I'll be awesome.'
Finally, it doesn't matter that you came in on launch or if you'd joined now or any other time in the future. Ok, so you only joined when you saw the ad after launch but there were ads around long long before then and you only just happened to see it when you did. If you'd seen the ad months or years from now and decided to download the game, you would have been in just the same situation and no more deserving of having everyone else wiped then either.
What would make this a lot less of an issue is better matchmaking from day 1 but that is something they're working on for the coming months. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2055
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:12:00 -
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Drud Green wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Drud wrote:The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset.
Don't say stupid ****. Do you know what the main purpose behind an Open Beta is, aside from getting word out on the game? Stress testing the servers. In order to stress test the servers you need a high amount of players. How the hell do you think CCP was going to get the amount of people needed to properly do this when the build that they used for OB had already been around since pretty much September? They knew most of the vets wouldn't play this game without an Incentive. No more SP resets was their incentive, it's not something people asked for, it's something CCP decided to do because they knew it was the only way to retain their existing customers. This was CCP's choice. Also, you had the same opportunity to play that everyone else did, it's not our problem if you didn't. So your saying that because ccp made a bad game nobody would wan't to play it and they had to 'bribe' vets to stay? No one wanted to play because the old content had gotten stale, that's why AFKing was a ever a problem. So yes, it was a bribe. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
582
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:14:00 -
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HONESTLY? They should of reset EVERYTHING. They are too inexperienced |
THEDRiZZLE Aqua teen
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
46
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:17:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:I been thinking why CCP ddint reset the ppl that play open and beta version of dust 514?
Well let explore that:[i] I wonder why CCP didn't reset the current player that play the open beta til may 14 when the game came out, I always wonder why? I started playing this game on May 14 like all new player before me, u be thinking that everyone going to be on the same level playing field as u, same suit, same weapon, same skill point which is at 500,000 naw and I wonder why is that everyone is higher than me on day one and look like they been playing for year and year In stuff. so I wonder if game that in a beta mode and u basically earn almost everything on there kill, weapon, dropsuit, skill level, all of that, may 14 are u saying that all of them didn't get reset when the game came out. So u know is it unfair to the new player because why they might just give up the game because they no way they can make it. and don't say oh im a crybaby because im talking nonsense something that already been discussed a long time ago whatever or not that CCP should reset all of the current player stat and skill to make it fair for new be on the same playing field. if ccp did just say im done with this game because that. after all know that experience u been doing, after all the learning curve just experience, u know what thing u need to get. if I ever did play the beta of this game and ccp reset everything I just do it again and have fun with it not just making a excuse and say im done because reset my stuff so the new player get a chance to whoop are **** in.
What do u think thou should CCP done what they should of did reset ppl that play beta stat or leave it like so they brag about all stuff they earn for 4 month on open beta.
p.s. Don't be a jack**** when u decide on what to say ok just be honest. I started open beta and im on leader boards as of a few weeksago it took alot of grinding you are not serious enough |
Ceerix MKII
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:27:00 -
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When the game went open beta CCP stated there was no resets. It was also available to everyone that wanted to play the game. At the same time people that had been in closed beta were reset to 0 for the last time, and they were playing for keeps from that point on. There is no difference in the reset being in the Open Beta phase or the "Official release" if you start the game after someone else you will probably always have less SP then them its just the mechanics of the game. This is also pointless to talk about 2 months after the fact as well. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2055
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:31:00 -
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Ceerix MKII wrote:When the game went open beta CCP stated there was no resets. It was also available to everyone that wanted to play the game. At the same time people that had been in closed beta were reset to 0 for the last time, and they were playing for keeps from that point on. There is no difference in the reset being in the Open Beta phase or the "Official release" if you start the game after someone else you will probably always have less SP then them its just the mechanics of the game. This is also pointless to talk about 2 months after the fact as well. Stop making sense, and don't point out that he has more SP than someone who starts the game 10 years from now |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:07:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN this is not CoD where you can catch up to someone in a weekend or BF3 where you catch up to someone in a couple hundred hours, if you want to catch up to a hardcore player you need to play like ******* 80 hours a week with both boosters for about 6 months, then youll probably have the same ammount of SP as him, there you go GG
I never mention cod or bf in this post the real answer is why didn't ccp reset that ppl that play the beta until may 14 of game release. I now didn't say they need to catch up all I said was they need to be on same playing feel like everyone else that start from the beginning not having ppl that was ahead of them on day one of game lunch. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2853
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:09:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN this is not CoD where you can catch up to someone in a weekend or BF3 where you catch up to someone in a couple hundred hours, if you want to catch up to a hardcore player you need to play like ******* 80 hours a week with both boosters for about 6 months, then youll probably have the same ammount of SP as him, there you go GG I never mention cod or bf in this post the real answer is why didn't ccp reset that ppl that play the beta until may 14 of game release. I now didn't say they need to catch up all I said was they need to be on same playing feel like everyone else that start from the beginning not having ppl that was ahead of them on day one of game lunch. The problem with your logic is...
We all DID start on the same playing field - you just didn't care to check PSN where DUST514 had it's own sections saying "FREE TO PLAY BETA FOR ALL!"
Can we delete this sad thread now? My tear cup is over-flowing. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:09:00 -
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THEDRiZZLE Aqua teen wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I been thinking why CCP ddint reset the ppl that play open and beta version of dust 514?
Well let explore that:[i] I wonder why CCP didn't reset the current player that play the open beta til may 14 when the game came out, I always wonder why? I started playing this game on May 14 like all new player before me, u be thinking that everyone going to be on the same level playing field as u, same suit, same weapon, same skill point which is at 500,000 naw and I wonder why is that everyone is higher than me on day one and look like they been playing for year and year In stuff. so I wonder if game that in a beta mode and u basically earn almost everything on there kill, weapon, dropsuit, skill level, all of that, may 14 are u saying that all of them didn't get reset when the game came out. So u know is it unfair to the new player because why they might just give up the game because they no way they can make it. and don't say oh im a crybaby because im talking nonsense something that already been discussed a long time ago whatever or not that CCP should reset all of the current player stat and skill to make it fair for new be on the same playing field. if ccp did just say im done with this game because that. after all know that experience u been doing, after all the learning curve just experience, u know what thing u need to get. if I ever did play the beta of this game and ccp reset everything I just do it again and have fun with it not just making a excuse and say im done because reset my stuff so the new player get a chance to whoop are **** in.
What do u think thou should CCP done what they should of did reset ppl that play beta stat or leave it like so they brag about all stuff they earn for 4 month on open beta.
p.s. Don't be a jack**** when u decide on what to say ok just be honest. I started open beta and im on leader boards as of a few weeksago it took alot of grinding you are not serious enough
What does that got to do with me being serious enough if I start playing on may 14 like ever new player will do and see that alof of the other are way ahead on day one which u missing the point. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:11:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN this is not CoD where you can catch up to someone in a weekend or BF3 where you catch up to someone in a couple hundred hours, if you want to catch up to a hardcore player you need to play like ******* 80 hours a week with both boosters for about 6 months, then youll probably have the same ammount of SP as him, there you go GG I never mention cod or bf in this post the real answer is why didn't ccp reset that ppl that play the beta until may 14 of game release. I now didn't say they need to catch up all I said was they need to be on same playing feel like everyone else that start from the beginning not having ppl that was ahead of them on day one of game lunch. The problem with your logic is... We all DID start on the same playing field - you just didn't care to check PSN where DUST514 had it's own sections saying "FREE TO PLAY BETA FOR ALL!" Can we delete this sad thread now? My tear cup is over-flowing.
u say we started on same playing field right but u play the beta most of the new player now didn't including me. Which ur logic is still saying who care. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2853
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:16:00 -
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You're reaching now just to debate. Even if we started over RIGHT NOW I'd STILL have a better knowledge of these things and promptly whoop you.
And you're forgetting - what about people entering this game 3 months from now? Should we restart stats every 6 months so everyone can be on the same playing field? You guys had your opportunity and ignored it - don't punish us for your mistakes. |
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Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
92
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:39:00 -
[51] - Quote
As i said op, tryhards cried loud and hard and ccp had no faith that new people would actually want to play dust. Ccp tried save Dust's meagre playerbase with a bribe.
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2856
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:42:00 -
[52] - Quote
Drud Green wrote:As i said op, CCP promised no more resets and the community held them to it.
Fixed that for ya - your original version was bleeding stupid and tears. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2057
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:42:00 -
[53] - Quote
Drud Green wrote:As i said op, tryhards cried loud and hard and ccp had no faith that new people would actually want to play dust. Ccp tried save Dust's meagre playerbase with a bribe.
Show me the tyrhards crying about their SP, they all expected a wipe, but CCP can't use something to draw a crowd and then not deliver, that's not nice |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2057
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:46:00 -
[54] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:who care. No one cares about you, does this make you sad? |
TheWee BabySeamus
Dem Durrty Boyz
9
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:48:00 -
[55] - Quote
I have been reset multiple times through closed beta. look at it this way, because a lot of us were in the closed beta we were rewarded........................with keeping our skill points from the last character reset, which was February I believe ( I lose track). So although you may look at it as "UNFAIR", in reality it is not. As closed beta players we generated a large amount of feedback to the CCP DEVS which is helping them create the game that we all hope they do. And besides, we are really not that far ahead, once you hit 3 million SP you should have a very good fit, unless your a moron. So there is my input.
-Wee Baby
P.S. I have multiple Alts and none of them have over 4 MIL SP and I do perfectly fine, so I guess the OP deserves a nice New Eden HTFU I can even even help you out with a fit that will destroy any proto suit on the field for less than 500,000 SP.................................LOGI LAV. But BEWARE OF THE ILL NASTY FORGE GUNNERS LURKING IN THE SHADOWS
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Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
92
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:50:00 -
[56] - Quote
Sloth9230 wrote:Drud Green wrote:As i said op, tryhards cried loud and hard and ccp had no faith that new people would actually want to play dust. Ccp tried save Dust's meagre playerbase with a bribe.
Show me the tyrhards crying about their SP, they all expected a wipe, but CCP can't use something to draw a crowd and then not deliver, that's not nice
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Ccp promised no more resets because tryhards cried 'if you reset sp i quit. i didn't treat the beta like a beta and want a massive advantage over new players when the game is released'.
Ccp can absolutely use something to draw people out and not deliver. Closed beta merc pack.
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
221
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Posted - 2013.06.29 10:23:00 -
[57] - Quote
We started to collect SP when the game went into open beta and some of you were not there. Now you are here not understanding why the people who were on top of things and started the game at the right time have more SP than you? What is wrong with you people? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
575
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Posted - 2013.06.29 10:25:00 -
[58] - Quote
Unfair
What happens in other games in which players have unlocked everything and you have started? Oh nothing |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1259
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Posted - 2013.06.29 10:28:00 -
[59] - Quote
Taurion Bruni wrote:Just remember your opinion a few years from now when the new players want to be on your level, and request that the time you spent on this game be wiped clean
Exactly. |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
183
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Posted - 2013.06.29 10:28:00 -
[60] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN I know. XD NOW LISTSEN THE REASON U NEVER PROBLEM WAS LIKE I SAID IN FIRST U GUYS WERE AHEAD OF THE NEW PLAYER THAT IT. KNOW ON THIS POST PUT UP ONLY THING I WANT TO KNOW WAS WHAT IF CCP WOULD RESET THE PPL THAT PLAY BETA REGRADLESS OF IF THEY WOULD LOSE THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE OF IT OR GAIN NEW PLAYER.
what the hell does this even say |
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
221
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Posted - 2013.06.29 10:32:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN I know. XD NOW LISTSEN THE REASON U NEVER PROBLEM WAS LIKE I SAID IN FIRST U GUYS WERE AHEAD OF THE NEW PLAYER THAT IT. KNOW ON THIS POST PUT UP ONLY THING I WANT TO KNOW WAS WHAT IF CCP WOULD RESET THE PPL THAT PLAY BETA REGRADLESS OF IF THEY WOULD LOSE THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE OF IT OR GAIN NEW PLAYER. what the hell does this even say Yeah... Might be german or even portuguese.. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
505
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Posted - 2013.06.29 12:03:00 -
[62] - Quote
No matter when is/was the final reset, there will always be players joining the game at considerably later time. So there will always be the situation that some people have played more than others. It is inevitable in a game with any game with developement of char/assets, and even without those some other advantages. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
248
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Posted - 2013.06.29 12:12:00 -
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Simple answer was CCP said open beta players would not be reset. More complex answer would be if CCP intended to reset people on May 14th then they should have taken a different approach to open beta.
If they had just allocated SP and Isk each week and said go test out the gear and the skill tree then a reset wouldn't have mattered due to the fact that we did not earn that Isk and SP e.g. Week 1, Wednesday receive 1 mil SP and 10 mil Isk, week 2 another 2 mil SP and 10 mil Isk and so on.
However, what they introduced was effectively the actual game and the need for players to grind SP, regardless of how much fun you had playing, to level up your characters and get better gear. If they had then announced at the start of open beta that your toon would be reset would have resulted in most people not playing the game in the first place especially when they realised how much SP was needed just for core skills etc.
A lot of new players, when they realise, how much SP they need to earn over a period of months just to get an average fit toon give up even now. Imagine the impact if you then told them that you will also be resetting them in 4 months as well.
Edit. CCP was also selling boosters, via Aurum, for real money. There would have been no incentive to buy them if you knew you were going to be reset for the majority of people. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
336
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Posted - 2013.06.29 12:29:00 -
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OMFG
H A R D E N
T H E
F U C K
U P
3 months from now some spanking n00b with similac on his breath is gonna be in here crying because YOU have more SP!
OPEN BETA means ANYONE could participate. If you didn't that is your problem! |
Knightshade Belladonna
G.R.A.V.E
380
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Posted - 2013.06.29 12:52:00 -
[65] - Quote
For the longest time I was under the assumption we would be reset on releas, or just a couple weeks prior. Not having a whole 5.5 months boon over everyone. To many people bickered I guess.. we had been reset numerous times, atleast those who have been here since the beginning, or near to ( been here since mordus ) and it would not have hurt me in the slightest to be reset again for official. Hell many of us got other perks that more than would make up for the reset ( ultra cheap aur costs on bpo items , free bpo suits , and the biggest of all EXPERIENCE ). What's done is done though, damage has already been dealt and fixing now would be detremental to the game in it's current state. Eventually it will blow over hopefully as more get up to the 5 mil + sp mark, at that point you should have decent core skills and an advanced suit if you plan the tree right. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 16:22:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN I know. XD NOW LISTSEN THE REASON U NEVER PROBLEM WAS LIKE I SAID IN FIRST U GUYS WERE AHEAD OF THE NEW PLAYER THAT IT. KNOW ON THIS POST PUT UP ONLY THING I WANT TO KNOW WAS WHAT IF CCP WOULD RESET THE PPL THAT PLAY BETA REGRADLESS OF IF THEY WOULD LOSE THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE OF IT OR GAIN NEW PLAYER. what the hell does this even say
Sense u didn't bother to read it and acting like a fool rite now im going to explain what I was trying to say to u ok. What I was trying to u was there is a reason that u never had a problem like said because u are ahead of all the new player. now I said what if ccp would reset those player that were ahead of the new player on day one ok. if they did would u still play the game or quit like a 12 year old would cry moan complain making excuse that some how u stat was reset ok. now if going to act like stupid on what just said to u then don't reply back. ok |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
772
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:24:00 -
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I think the thing people are struggling with in this thread is that the OP is clearly not a native english speaker, so the grammar and structure of his writing is very difficult to understand.
However, I think I understood pretty well what was said in the OP and answered in a clear and sensible manner but was entirely ignored in favour of arguing with trolls and jokers in order to try to prove some point. Shouting at people who are making fun of you doesn't make you right in your original statement. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2951
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:31:00 -
[68] - Quote
Cordera
It's people like you who are the reason why I have little faith in humanity. You asked a question and you received your answer that spans for pages yet you act like only your opinions matters and not that of everyone else. Hell, you couldn't even take a joke that I posted here. Comes to show how selfish you are on the inside. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
216
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:35:00 -
[69] - Quote
We've all been reset a couple of times before. Just so happens that from Chromosome to Uprising, they only reset the accounts of those that asked for it, otherwise they just put all of our SP into the unallocated pool.
If they hadn't reset us, I'm sure some people would be working towards 40m SP by now, if not more. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:54:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:I think the thing people are struggling with in this thread is that the OP is clearly not a native english speaker, so the grammar and structure of his writing is very difficult to understand.
However, I think I understood pretty well what was said in the OP and answered in a clear and sensible manner but was entirely ignored in favour of arguing with trolls and jokers in order to try to prove some point. Shouting at people who are making fun of you doesn't make you right in your original statement.
Let try to explain to u I all im saying is what if CCP Reset the current player before the new player that is all ok don't if u cant understand then u know what I mean when I said that and don't try to make fool about my grammer being bad if u read don't reply |
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Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:58:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera
It's people like you who are the reason why I have little faith in humanity. You asked a question and you received your answer that spans for pages yet you act like only your opinions matters and not that of everyone else. Hell, you couldn't even take a joke that I posted here. Comes to show how selfish you are on the inside.
People like me huh ok I guess u probably degress on what I said if CCP would reset the player that play open beta ok and what joke did u post I last I checked I didn't take it as a joke i took like that something u disagree in that all. now don't try to be jackass ok because if u are there nothing to talk about. what i said is what i said all i want is to see how many ppl would agree or disagree or having something else to explain to me why ccp should or shouldn't ok. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:11:00 -
[72] - Quote
Listen i don't caer what ur opinion is of what i wrote or said what im trying to say is Why didn't CCP reset those ppl that play beta until lunch of may 14 that is all. if u want to act stubborn about it be my guess. all i want to have positive feedback from u that it not having a debate on whatever that they should of did it or not. now what it change thing no it wouldn't. u can sit here and brag about how bad my grammer or u sit there and read and give me a feedback oh whether or not CCP should or not.
P.S. don't try to act like dumb**** because some ppl cant spell or write u know what they wrote try to make sense in ur head not ur mouth. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:27:00 -
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The game is still in beta that's why no one received a SP reset. Hence why the player numbers went from 9000 to 5000.. CCP never promoted that if you play the beta you keep the SP for release.
That's why this game will have mostly the beta vets playing. Then on top of uprising is a beta build hence why we have so many bugs and we are missing 90% of the game. Fail all the way around lmao. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:32:00 -
[74] - Quote
KING SALASI wrote:The game is still in beta that's why no one received a SP reset. Hence why the player numbers went from 9000 to 5000.. CCP never promoted that if you play the beta you keep the SP for release.
That's why this game will have mostly the beta vets playing. Then on top of uprising is a beta build hence why we have so many bugs and we are missing 90% of the game. Fail all the way around lmao.
How is this game a beta and already out of console on CD. there is no way that this game came be a beta even if were missing 90% of the game would u think there may update the game put this those thing in later. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
773
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:40:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Listen i don't caer what ur opinion is of what i wrote or said what im trying to say is Why didn't CCP reset those ppl that play beta until lunch of may 14 that is all. if u want to act stubborn about it be my guess. all i want to have positive feedback from u that it not having a debate on whatever that they should of did it or not. now what it change thing no it wouldn't. u can sit here and brag about how bad my grammer or u sit there and read and give me a feedback oh whether or not CCP should or not.
P.S. don't try to act like dumb**** because some ppl cant spell or write u know what they wrote try to make sense in ur head not ur mouth. Seriously, people can not understand what you are saying - making sense of what you are typing is very difficult.
Also, since you've clearly got an attitude, people are hardly likely to go out of their way to be pleasant to you. Now, I originally posted a perfectly civil explanation of several reasons why a reset didn't occur and you ignored it. I then tried to explain why people weren't understanding what you were saying and you came back with a snarky response still ignoring my explanatory response.
What you seem to want is to be able to post an idea in a public forum that people aren't allowed to openly disagree with and only can post 'positive feedback'. This is a forum for debate and people clearly want to debate what you've tried to say - who are you to tell us what we can and can't post? You are the only one here acting stubbornly. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
773
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:41:00 -
[76] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:KING SALASI wrote:The game is still in beta that's why no one received a SP reset. Hence why the player numbers went from 9000 to 5000.. CCP never promoted that if you play the beta you keep the SP for release.
That's why this game will have mostly the beta vets playing. Then on top of uprising is a beta build hence why we have so many bugs and we are missing 90% of the game. Fail all the way around lmao. How is this game a beta and already out of console on CD. there is no way that this game came be a beta even if were missing 90% of the game would u think there may update the game put this those thing in later. Ha! The game is technically not a beta but it's certainly not on CD. And we are actually missing at least 90% of the game, so yes, you fail all the way around lmao. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
249
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:45:00 -
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Unfortunately King Salasi was being sarcastic basically saying that the game was not ready for an official release yet.
To your question we do not know why CCP didn't reset everyone on the official release of the game. Maybe they thought it was a reward for the beta players or they thought they would loose too many players of they did. It could be because they wanted to show players using the more advanced high end gear or maybe because they were selling stuff for real money.
Maybe all of the above or none of the above. Only CCP knows the answer for sure all we can voice is opinions or put another way a guess. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:45:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:KING SALASI wrote:The game is still in beta that's why no one received a SP reset. Hence why the player numbers went from 9000 to 5000.. CCP never promoted that if you play the beta you keep the SP for release.
That's why this game will have mostly the beta vets playing. Then on top of uprising is a beta build hence why we have so many bugs and we are missing 90% of the game. Fail all the way around lmao. How is this game a beta and already out of console on CD. there is no way that this game came be a beta even if were missing 90% of the game would u think there may update the game put this those thing in later.
Are you that stupid name me one console game that released with 10% content with promise of soon tm??? The game still plays like a beta with the disguise of being a released game.
Look been playing video games for over 25 years I've never seen such a **** poor release. The game received bad reviews by the media and players.
This was a failed experiment on console best move for CCP is to move dust to pc. Cut bait take your losses and start over. The players will continue to drop with PS4 coming and all the next gen games.
This console not pc players will move on, and based on CCP development of this game it take them years to get Dust right. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
599
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:51:00 -
[79] - Quote
Yes of course there should have been a reset on launch. Goes without saying.
Problem is the SP cap though, it makes no difference whether they reset at launch.
New players will never catch up. But there aren't any new players, so does it matter.
The, no reset, the skill cap and 7yr skill tree are just three of the many reasons this game is dead already. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:53:00 -
[80] - Quote
KING SALASI wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:KING SALASI wrote:The game is still in beta that's why no one received a SP reset. Hence why the player numbers went from 9000 to 5000.. CCP never promoted that if you play the beta you keep the SP for release.
That's why this game will have mostly the beta vets playing. Then on top of uprising is a beta build hence why we have so many bugs and we are missing 90% of the game. Fail all the way around lmao. How is this game a beta and already out of console on CD. there is no way that this game came be a beta even if were missing 90% of the game would u think there may update the game put this those thing in later. Are you that stupid name me one console game that released with 10% content with promise of soon tm??? The game still plays like a beta with the disguise of being a released game. Look been playing video games for over 25 years I've never seen such a **** poor release. The game received bad reviews by the media and players. This was a failed experiment on console best move for CCP is to move dust to pc. Cut bait take your losses and start over. The players will continue to drop with PS4 coming and all the next gen games. This console not pc players will move on, and based on CCP development of this game it take them years to get Dust right.
dude it doesn't matter u cant just call a game that still in a beta because how do u explain that cover of a game that inside ps3 case and u going to tell that im stupid because im not call it a beta if it was a beta would think that ccp would not release a game on ps3 that have ps3 case and the cover that said dust 514 inside case come on man. not saying this game is not a beta if say that then be my guess i don't care what u say from hear on end |
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Django Quik
R.I.f.t
773
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:55:00 -
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What are you talking about!? Dust514 is download only - there is no CD, no case and no cover.
And please read other people's posts instead of just the trolls. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:05:00 -
[82] - Quote
Django Quik wrote:What are you talking about!? Dust514 is download only - there is no CD, no case and no cover.
And please read other people's posts instead of just the trolls.
look man im not trolling i can give a rat *** but listen no i did take few min to re look at it and yea i made one mistake that but still im not calling this game a f***king beta ok end of story. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
773
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:07:00 -
[83] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:Django Quik wrote:What are you talking about!? Dust514 is download only - there is no CD, no case and no cover.
And please read other people's posts instead of just the trolls. look man im not trolling i can give a rat *** but listen no i did take few min to re look at it and yea i made one mistake that but still im not calling this game a f***king beta ok end of story. I'm not calling you a troll - I'm calling the other guy a troll. I'm also not saying the game is a beta but it is missing at least 90% of the content.
Look this thread really is going nowhere and especially not the direction you seem to want it to go, so my best advice is just to let it die already. |
Eriknaught
Vader's Taco Shack
11
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:10:00 -
[84] - Quote
Fresh meat and their "disadvantages..." pfff. I was new at one point, you know. Me and my starter SP vs Closed Beta vets with Kitten-Tons of SP. What did I do? Cry because I didn't have the same gear as people who'd been playing far longer than I? No, I looked at those ahead of me and took notes. After a couple months I was able to run on a "moderately" same playing field. This game is about longevity, not instant gratification. You want to start a game at more-or-less the same level as people who bought the game the minute it came out? They have those, look around the forum, there are plenty of suggestions for an instant shooter fix. Basically, if your new I got this to say: Welcome to New Eden, where all clones are NOT created equal. That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2868
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:23:00 -
[85] - Quote
lol - "IDC WHAT YOUR OPINIONS ARE."
Then mail your complaint to CCP and gtfo of the forums. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2953
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:31:00 -
[86] - Quote
OK, we are going way off topic here. OP, I apologize for my joke which you took the wrong the wrong way. I didn't mean for it to be insulting.
Anyways, Dust is a unique game in own in the sense that the company behind is operating under a set of rules that they created. A lot of games that you see now follow traditional rules on what is considered complete and what is considered beta. Dust on the other hand, just like Eve Online, blurrs that fine line completely.
Officially Dust is in commercial release but unofficially it will forever be in permanent beta just like Eve Online. Again, CCP is rewriting the rules on how games are designed and published just like how Apple Inc. redesigned the entire music industry with 0.99 cent songs in an age where the music industry thought otherwise. Eve Online did the same thing with the MMO industry in an age where most MMOs were suppose to be theme park like but Eve blew that out of the water with the introduction of a universe so harsh and yet so free that you can do things in there that would otherwise get you banned elsewhere. Now Dust is bringing in a concept that other FPS console game developers are too scared to even try which is basically the idea of a free-to-play game that has endless (and free) updates that will improve over the years while giving players the ability to dictate how the game is developed via the Council of Planetary Management.
The Council of Planetary Management (CPM) is the console version of Eve Online's Council of Stellar Management (CSM) which in the future is slated to become player-elected and thus give players a much stronger voice than the current CPM we have now. In fact, the current CPM's purpose is to help CCP establish a proper voting system for the next CPM election so that players can finally determine the outcome of the development of Dust. This is something you don't really see in other game besides Eve Online.
Eve Online and Dust are the only games in the entire MMO and Console industries with their own player representatives whose purpose is to determine the outcome of game development in addition to helping players bring forward issues that need to be resolved. On top of that, both games are planned to have a single unified economy that crosses both platforms while players have full control over it which is another thing you are never going to see in any other game.
CCP has reset our accounts to zero during the transition from the Singularity Test Server to the Tranquillity Live Server. But then they gave us a week to grind however much we want before we then moved into open beta. That is when CCP allowed us to keep our SP as a reward for those who stuck around during that one week period. We earned it and that is all.
Traditionally game developers would have reset everyone on launch anyways, but again CCP is operating under their own rules and felt there was no point in having everyone start off on even ground because eventually new players will come in months or years down the line and still be facing against veterans anyways. On top of that, there is also the fact that the skill tree is intentionally designed to take 7-10 years to complete so that every player still has something to aim for in the future.
I understand that there are players out there who don't like starting off on uneven ground let alone willing to grind for 7-10 years, but that is how CCP has planned it in the first place. Many of us expected this as well since 2009 for those of us who were around back then.
I hope this explains things better for you. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:39:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Django Quik wrote:What are you talking about!? Dust514 is download only - there is no CD, no case and no cover.
And please read other people's posts instead of just the trolls. look man im not trolling i can give a rat *** but listen no i did take few min to re look at it and yea i made one mistake that but still im not calling this game a f***king beta ok end of story. I'm not calling you a troll - I'm calling the other guy a troll. I'm also not saying the game is a beta but it is missing at least 90% of the content. Look this thread really is going nowhere and especially not the direction you seem to want it to go, so my best advice is just to let it die already.
Lol this old man don't troll. Call it like i see it, CCP can fool you young pups. Old dogs like me can see right thru the shenanigans. No one can't name me one console game that launched with 10% content, with the promise of soon tm.
Look i play eve online i pay for that game is great. Dust was a failed experiment you know as well that the playerbase will continue to shrink due to next gen, and the lack of content and the other issues dust have.
I've never seen a console game recover from a failed launch pc yes console no. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
524
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:41:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:mollerz wrote:WTF is this dude trying to say?
Sounds about as dumb as his ability to express himself. Oh WTF im trying to say ok let me explain to u what I was trying to say I was wondering why CCP didn't reset the current ppl stat that play the beta mode until may 14 when the game came out. that what im talking about. if u got some dumb lame line to tell me be my guess.
I'll just say this. The sentence structure is far better, and you satisfactorily expressed your thoughts well enough.
Sadly, in subsequent posts you fell apart, however.
P.S. If I see you in game, I am going to scalp you repeatedly. You might shoot me down, but i'll always have your scalp. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.29 20:33:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Django Quik wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Django Quik wrote:What are you talking about!? Dust514 is download only - there is no CD, no case and no cover.
And please read other people's posts instead of just the trolls. look man im not trolling i can give a rat *** but listen no i did take few min to re look at it and yea i made one mistake that but still im not calling this game a f***king beta ok end of story. I'm not calling you a troll - I'm calling the other guy a troll. I'm also not saying the game is a beta but it is missing at least 90% of the content. Look this thread really is going nowhere and especially not the direction you seem to want it to go, so my best advice is just to let it die already. Lol this old man don't troll. Call it like i see it, CCP can fool you young pups. Old dogs like me can see right thru the shenanigans. No one can't name me one console game that launched with 10% content, with the promise of soon tm. Look i play eve online i pay for that game is great. Dust was a failed experiment you know as well that the playerbase will continue to shrink due to next gen, and the lack of content and the other issues dust have. I've never seen a console game recover from a failed launch pc yes console no.
MOH WARFIGHTER IS ONE, THAT ONLY ONE I CAN THINK OF THAT HAVE A BETA BUT THERE WERE ALOT THAT WAS MISSING FROM THAT GAME. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2954
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Posted - 2013.06.29 21:05:00 -
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@cordera
I recommend toning down the use of caps lock. It really doesn't help convey anything that you are saying other than just screaming. |
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Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.29 21:07:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@cordera
I recommend toning down the use of caps lock. It really doesn't help convey anything that you are saying other than just screaming.
IT DONT MATTER JUST DEAL WITH IT
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2955
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Posted - 2013.06.29 21:20:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@cordera
I recommend toning down the use of caps lock. It really doesn't help convey anything that you are saying other than just screaming. IT DONT MATTER JUST DEAL WITH IT
Ok.
WTF man. Do you have some kind of mental disorder or something? I apologized for my joke just now, tried to answer your question in a polite manner after that, and then tried to let you know that broken caps lock doesn't help anyone.
Yet here you are verbally assaulting me by telling me to deal with it? What do you want from us here? We answered your question and yet you act like you don't like the answer and therefore act like an immature kid wanting everyone to agree with you no matter what. If that's the case, good luck getting any help from us in answering further questions from you.
Prick |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2870
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Posted - 2013.06.29 21:22:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@cordera
I recommend toning down the use of caps lock. It really doesn't help convey anything that you are saying other than just screaming. IT DONT MATTER JUST DEAL WITH IT You're bad and should feel bad.
Lemme guess - people keep handing your ass to you and you blame SP - Must be another CoD fanboy who can't cut it.
LEMME CAPS LOCK SO YOU CAN READ WHAT IM SAYING
YOU SUCK. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
347
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Posted - 2013.06.29 21:23:00 -
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isn't this an old issue by now....we ended beta like 10 mil sp ago..... |
Skipper Jones
Red Star. EoN.
184
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Posted - 2013.06.29 22:57:00 -
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Well, you could've played since January. CCP also said "No more resets unless something drastic happens". I probably would've quit. If CCP emphasized that there would be no more resets, then turn around and said "**** you. We're having a reset" I would've been pissed. |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
67
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:12:00 -
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All I have to say is that everyone had equal opportunity to play the game in closed and open beta. There is no excuse for saying "Oh I started on release" you could have been playing since most of us beta players have. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
632
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:17:00 -
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bro wall of text.. vodka goggles.. you think we read these forums sober? dam op just hit the return key here and there.. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
633
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:19:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I played Beta since the start, before people could even "buy into it," and I've been reset at least three times...
Good god, if I really got to keep the year+ SP and ISK... Oh lordy... ok but I was trying to say is what if CCP did reset ur stat on lunch day of may 14 would u still play the game or quit
i would have quit much earlier than i already have |
Kiro Justice
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
137
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:20:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I played Beta since the start, before people could even "buy into it," and I've been reset at least three times...
Good god, if I really got to keep the year+ SP and ISK... Oh lordy... ok but I was trying to say is what if CCP did reset ur stat on lunch day of may 14 would u still play the game or quit
I'd quit. Hell I may quit anyway. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:38:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@cordera
I recommend toning down the use of caps lock. It really doesn't help convey anything that you are saying other than just screaming. IT DONT MATTER JUST DEAL WITH IT Ok. WTF man. Do you have some kind of mental disorder or something? I apologized for my joke just now, tried to answer your question in a polite manner after that, and then tried to let you know that broken caps lock doesn't help anyone. Yet here you are verbally assaulting me by telling me to deal with it? What do you want from us here? We answered your question and yet you act like you don't like the answer and therefore act like an immature kid wanting everyone to agree with you no matter what. If that's the case, good luck getting any help from us in answering further questions from you. Prick
Already over the who joke thing ok I don't know why apologizing I let it go a long time ago man |
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2964
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:45:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@cordera
I recommend toning down the use of caps lock. It really doesn't help convey anything that you are saying other than just screaming. IT DONT MATTER JUST DEAL WITH IT Ok. WTF man. Do you have some kind of mental disorder or something? I apologized for my joke just now, tried to answer your question in a polite manner after that, and then tried to let you know that broken caps lock doesn't help anyone. Yet here you are verbally assaulting me by telling me to deal with it? What do you want from us here? We answered your question and yet you act like you don't like the answer and therefore act like an immature kid wanting everyone to agree with you no matter what. If that's the case, good luck getting any help from us in answering further questions from you. Prick Already over the who joke thing ok I don't know why apologizing I let it go a long time ago man
Then why did you just tell me to DEAL WITH IT like you are full of arrogance? I understand that DUST is full of trolls, but even us trolls have better standards and courtesy than what you just exhibited. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@cordera
I recommend toning down the use of caps lock. It really doesn't help convey anything that you are saying other than just screaming. IT DONT MATTER JUST DEAL WITH IT Ok. WTF man. Do you have some kind of mental disorder or something? I apologized for my joke just now, tried to answer your question in a polite manner after that, and then tried to let you know that broken caps lock doesn't help anyone. Yet here you are verbally assaulting me by telling me to deal with it? What do you want from us here? We answered your question and yet you act like you don't like the answer and therefore act like an immature kid wanting everyone to agree with you no matter what. If that's the case, good luck getting any help from us in answering further questions from you. Prick Already over the who joke thing ok I don't know why apologizing I let it go a long time ago man Then why did you just tell me to DEAL WITH IT like you are full of arrogance? I understand that DUST is full of trolls, but even us trolls have better standards and courtesy than what you just exhibited.
because u were complaining about all cap that I was writing in |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
38
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Posted - 2013.07.10 00:07:00 -
[103] - Quote
Sloth9230 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:who care. No one cares about you, does this make you sad?
how can I be sad and im still playing this game they way it is. and I though this argue about what I wrote was already over it but I see some ppl still complaining on it. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2258
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Posted - 2013.07.10 00:15:00 -
[104] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:who care. No one cares about you, does this make you sad? how can I be sad and im still playing this game they way it is. and I though this argue about what I wrote was already over it but I see some ppl still complaining on it. Yeah, he sad |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
42
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Posted - 2013.07.10 00:39:00 -
[105] - Quote
Sloth9230 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:who care. No one cares about you, does this make you sad? how can I be sad and im still playing this game they way it is. and I though this argue about what I wrote was already over it but I see some ppl still complaining on it. Yeah, he sad
And what that surpose to mean ( Yeah he said). Look what I wrote is what I wrote even if CCP did what they should of did on lunch day was reset everyone so that the new player would had a good gaming experience and the veteran would already had that experience for playing the beta. Know it don't care what u say about but if I did play the beta until lunch day CCP reset all my stat from the very beginning because it lunch day I wouldn't complain about it I would just do the same thing over again that it. if u disagree that fine like I said I don't care. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
829
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Posted - 2013.07.10 00:42:00 -
[106] - Quote
Well... its too late now anyways. No reason to cry about it. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2261
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Posted - 2013.07.10 00:46:00 -
[107] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:who care. No one cares about you, does this make you sad? how can I be sad and im still playing this game they way it is. and I though this argue about what I wrote was already over it but I see some ppl still complaining on it. Yeah, he sad And what that surpose to mean ( Yeah he said). Look what I wrote is what I wrote even if CCP did what they should of did on lunch day was reset everyone so that the new player would had a good gaming experience and the veteran would already had that experience for playing the beta. Know it don't care what u say about but if I did play the beta until lunch day CCP reset all my stat from the very beginning because it lunch day I wouldn't complain about it I would just do the same thing over again that it. if u disagree that fine like I said I don't care. K, Saddy McSad sad |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
450
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Posted - 2013.07.10 01:28:00 -
[108] - Quote
KING SALASI wrote:Django Quik wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Django Quik wrote:What are you talking about!? Dust514 is download only - there is no CD, no case and no cover.
And please read other people's posts instead of just the trolls. look man im not trolling i can give a rat *** but listen no i did take few min to re look at it and yea i made one mistake that but still im not calling this game a f***king beta ok end of story. I'm not calling you a troll - I'm calling the other guy a troll. I'm also not saying the game is a beta but it is missing at least 90% of the content. Look this thread really is going nowhere and especially not the direction you seem to want it to go, so my best advice is just to let it die already. Lol this old man don't troll. Call it like i see it, CCP can fool you young pups. Old dogs like me can see right thru the shenanigans. No one can't name me one console game that launched with 10% content, with the promise of soon tm.
Look i play eve online i pay for that game is great. Dust was a failed experiment you know as well that the playerbase will continue to shrink due to next gen, and the lack of content and the other issues dust have. I've never seen a console game recover from a failed launch pc yes console no.
its called Dust 514, commercial released in the 14th may this year, it has only 10% of its content, it not meant to be alone, its a console extension of the EVE Online pc game. there are tons of new material that they plan on putting into this game, youd know this if you spent as much time looking **** up on the forums than you do crying because you came in late |
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