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Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
90
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Posted - 2013.06.29 06:35:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Drud wrote:The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset.
Don't say stupid ****. Do you know what the main purpose behind an Open Beta is, aside from getting word out on the game? Stress testing the servers. In order to stress test the servers you need a high amount of players. How the hell do you think CCP was going to get the amount of people needed to properly do this when the build that they used for OB had already been around since pretty much September? They knew most of the vets wouldn't play this game without an Incentive. No more SP resets was their incentive, it's not something people asked for, it's something CCP decided to do because they knew it was the only way to retain their existing customers. This was CCP's choice. Also, you had the same opportunity to play that everyone else did, it's not our problem if you didn't.
So your saying that because ccp made a bad game nobody would wan't to play it and they had to 'bribe' vets to stay? |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
725
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Posted - 2013.06.29 06:37:00 -
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This thread gave me cancer. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2947
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:24:00 -
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I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:28:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release.
U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2947
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:30:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN
I know. XD |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
44
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:35:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN
this is not CoD where you can catch up to someone in a weekend or BF3 where you catch up to someone in a couple hundred hours, if you want to catch up to a hardcore player you need to play like ******* 80 hours a week with both boosters for about 6 months, then youll probably have the same ammount of SP as him, there you go GG |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN I know. XD
NOW LISTSEN THE REASON U NEVER PROBLEM WAS LIKE I SAID IN FIRST U GUYS WERE AHEAD OF THE NEW PLAYER THAT IT. KNOW ON THIS POST PUT UP ONLY THING I WANT TO KNOW WAS WHAT IF CCP WOULD RESET THE PPL THAT PLAY BETA REGRADLESS OF IF THEY WOULD LOSE THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE OF IT OR GAIN NEW PLAYER. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2947
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:40:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN I know. XD NOW LISTSEN THE REASON U NEVER PROBLEM WAS LIKE I SAID IN FIRST U GUYS WERE AHEAD OF THE NEW PLAYER THAT IT. KNOW ON THIS POST PUT UP ONLY THING I WANT TO KNOW WAS WHAT IF CCP WOULD RESET THE PPL THAT PLAY BETA REGRADLESS OF IF THEY WOULD LOSE THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE OF IT OR GAIN NEW PLAYER.
Wow, I was just posting out of jest. I thought the XD smiley would have given you that hint about it. But guess you let that fly right over your head and decided to scream at me like that annoying guy in that classic cartoon show DILBERT. |
Tectonious Falcon
Phaze O n e
601
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:42:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN I know. XD NOW LISTSEN THE REASON U NEVER PROBLEM WAS LIKE I SAID IN FIRST U GUYS WERE AHEAD OF THE NEW PLAYER THAT IT. KNOW ON THIS POST PUT UP ONLY THING I WANT TO KNOW WAS WHAT IF CCP WOULD RESET THE PPL THAT PLAY BETA REGRADLESS OF IF THEY WOULD LOSE THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE OF IT OR GAIN NEW PLAYER.
Just because you were too stupid to download the open beta doesn't mean everyone else who put in hours of work should have to suffer.
As a side note, can you please try spelling things correctly? How about some punctuation? |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
770
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:00:00 -
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In one sense getting to keep your SP was a reward for helping to test the game, knowing full well that it was horribly broken in so many ways for the many months that we helped CCP out before release. You're lucky we got reset in January and don't have a full year's worth of SP over you.
In another sense, I think CCP probably wanted new players to see that the higher level weapons are worth getting - if we'd all started at zero on launch, everybody would be using only standard gear and new people wouldn't see the point in grinding for the better stuff. Coming into a game fresh and seeing someone completely wiping the field with a duvolle makes people think, 'wow! I better play lots to get to that weapon because I'll be awesome.'
Finally, it doesn't matter that you came in on launch or if you'd joined now or any other time in the future. Ok, so you only joined when you saw the ad after launch but there were ads around long long before then and you only just happened to see it when you did. If you'd seen the ad months or years from now and decided to download the game, you would have been in just the same situation and no more deserving of having everyone else wiped then either.
What would make this a lot less of an issue is better matchmaking from day 1 but that is something they're working on for the coming months. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2055
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:12:00 -
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Drud Green wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Drud wrote:The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset.
Don't say stupid ****. Do you know what the main purpose behind an Open Beta is, aside from getting word out on the game? Stress testing the servers. In order to stress test the servers you need a high amount of players. How the hell do you think CCP was going to get the amount of people needed to properly do this when the build that they used for OB had already been around since pretty much September? They knew most of the vets wouldn't play this game without an Incentive. No more SP resets was their incentive, it's not something people asked for, it's something CCP decided to do because they knew it was the only way to retain their existing customers. This was CCP's choice. Also, you had the same opportunity to play that everyone else did, it's not our problem if you didn't. So your saying that because ccp made a bad game nobody would wan't to play it and they had to 'bribe' vets to stay? No one wanted to play because the old content had gotten stale, that's why AFKing was a ever a problem. So yes, it was a bribe. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
582
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:14:00 -
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HONESTLY? They should of reset EVERYTHING. They are too inexperienced |
THEDRiZZLE Aqua teen
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
46
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:17:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:I been thinking why CCP ddint reset the ppl that play open and beta version of dust 514?
Well let explore that:[i] I wonder why CCP didn't reset the current player that play the open beta til may 14 when the game came out, I always wonder why? I started playing this game on May 14 like all new player before me, u be thinking that everyone going to be on the same level playing field as u, same suit, same weapon, same skill point which is at 500,000 naw and I wonder why is that everyone is higher than me on day one and look like they been playing for year and year In stuff. so I wonder if game that in a beta mode and u basically earn almost everything on there kill, weapon, dropsuit, skill level, all of that, may 14 are u saying that all of them didn't get reset when the game came out. So u know is it unfair to the new player because why they might just give up the game because they no way they can make it. and don't say oh im a crybaby because im talking nonsense something that already been discussed a long time ago whatever or not that CCP should reset all of the current player stat and skill to make it fair for new be on the same playing field. if ccp did just say im done with this game because that. after all know that experience u been doing, after all the learning curve just experience, u know what thing u need to get. if I ever did play the beta of this game and ccp reset everything I just do it again and have fun with it not just making a excuse and say im done because reset my stuff so the new player get a chance to whoop are **** in.
What do u think thou should CCP done what they should of did reset ppl that play beta stat or leave it like so they brag about all stuff they earn for 4 month on open beta.
p.s. Don't be a jack**** when u decide on what to say ok just be honest. I started open beta and im on leader boards as of a few weeksago it took alot of grinding you are not serious enough |
Ceerix MKII
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:27:00 -
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When the game went open beta CCP stated there was no resets. It was also available to everyone that wanted to play the game. At the same time people that had been in closed beta were reset to 0 for the last time, and they were playing for keeps from that point on. There is no difference in the reset being in the Open Beta phase or the "Official release" if you start the game after someone else you will probably always have less SP then them its just the mechanics of the game. This is also pointless to talk about 2 months after the fact as well. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2055
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:31:00 -
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Ceerix MKII wrote:When the game went open beta CCP stated there was no resets. It was also available to everyone that wanted to play the game. At the same time people that had been in closed beta were reset to 0 for the last time, and they were playing for keeps from that point on. There is no difference in the reset being in the Open Beta phase or the "Official release" if you start the game after someone else you will probably always have less SP then them its just the mechanics of the game. This is also pointless to talk about 2 months after the fact as well. Stop making sense, and don't point out that he has more SP than someone who starts the game 10 years from now |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:07:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN this is not CoD where you can catch up to someone in a weekend or BF3 where you catch up to someone in a couple hundred hours, if you want to catch up to a hardcore player you need to play like ******* 80 hours a week with both boosters for about 6 months, then youll probably have the same ammount of SP as him, there you go GG
I never mention cod or bf in this post the real answer is why didn't ccp reset that ppl that play the beta until may 14 of game release. I now didn't say they need to catch up all I said was they need to be on same playing feel like everyone else that start from the beginning not having ppl that was ahead of them on day one of game lunch. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2853
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:09:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN this is not CoD where you can catch up to someone in a weekend or BF3 where you catch up to someone in a couple hundred hours, if you want to catch up to a hardcore player you need to play like ******* 80 hours a week with both boosters for about 6 months, then youll probably have the same ammount of SP as him, there you go GG I never mention cod or bf in this post the real answer is why didn't ccp reset that ppl that play the beta until may 14 of game release. I now didn't say they need to catch up all I said was they need to be on same playing feel like everyone else that start from the beginning not having ppl that was ahead of them on day one of game lunch. The problem with your logic is...
We all DID start on the same playing field - you just didn't care to check PSN where DUST514 had it's own sections saying "FREE TO PLAY BETA FOR ALL!"
Can we delete this sad thread now? My tear cup is over-flowing. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:09:00 -
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THEDRiZZLE Aqua teen wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I been thinking why CCP ddint reset the ppl that play open and beta version of dust 514?
Well let explore that:[i] I wonder why CCP didn't reset the current player that play the open beta til may 14 when the game came out, I always wonder why? I started playing this game on May 14 like all new player before me, u be thinking that everyone going to be on the same level playing field as u, same suit, same weapon, same skill point which is at 500,000 naw and I wonder why is that everyone is higher than me on day one and look like they been playing for year and year In stuff. so I wonder if game that in a beta mode and u basically earn almost everything on there kill, weapon, dropsuit, skill level, all of that, may 14 are u saying that all of them didn't get reset when the game came out. So u know is it unfair to the new player because why they might just give up the game because they no way they can make it. and don't say oh im a crybaby because im talking nonsense something that already been discussed a long time ago whatever or not that CCP should reset all of the current player stat and skill to make it fair for new be on the same playing field. if ccp did just say im done with this game because that. after all know that experience u been doing, after all the learning curve just experience, u know what thing u need to get. if I ever did play the beta of this game and ccp reset everything I just do it again and have fun with it not just making a excuse and say im done because reset my stuff so the new player get a chance to whoop are **** in.
What do u think thou should CCP done what they should of did reset ppl that play beta stat or leave it like so they brag about all stuff they earn for 4 month on open beta.
p.s. Don't be a jack**** when u decide on what to say ok just be honest. I started open beta and im on leader boards as of a few weeksago it took alot of grinding you are not serious enough
What does that got to do with me being serious enough if I start playing on may 14 like ever new player will do and see that alof of the other are way ahead on day one which u missing the point. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:11:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN this is not CoD where you can catch up to someone in a weekend or BF3 where you catch up to someone in a couple hundred hours, if you want to catch up to a hardcore player you need to play like ******* 80 hours a week with both boosters for about 6 months, then youll probably have the same ammount of SP as him, there you go GG I never mention cod or bf in this post the real answer is why didn't ccp reset that ppl that play the beta until may 14 of game release. I now didn't say they need to catch up all I said was they need to be on same playing feel like everyone else that start from the beginning not having ppl that was ahead of them on day one of game lunch. The problem with your logic is... We all DID start on the same playing field - you just didn't care to check PSN where DUST514 had it's own sections saying "FREE TO PLAY BETA FOR ALL!" Can we delete this sad thread now? My tear cup is over-flowing.
u say we started on same playing field right but u play the beta most of the new player now didn't including me. Which ur logic is still saying who care. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2853
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:16:00 -
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You're reaching now just to debate. Even if we started over RIGHT NOW I'd STILL have a better knowledge of these things and promptly whoop you.
And you're forgetting - what about people entering this game 3 months from now? Should we restart stats every 6 months so everyone can be on the same playing field? You guys had your opportunity and ignored it - don't punish us for your mistakes. |
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Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
92
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:39:00 -
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As i said op, tryhards cried loud and hard and ccp had no faith that new people would actually want to play dust. Ccp tried save Dust's meagre playerbase with a bribe.
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2856
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:42:00 -
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Drud Green wrote:As i said op, CCP promised no more resets and the community held them to it.
Fixed that for ya - your original version was bleeding stupid and tears. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2057
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:42:00 -
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Drud Green wrote:As i said op, tryhards cried loud and hard and ccp had no faith that new people would actually want to play dust. Ccp tried save Dust's meagre playerbase with a bribe.
Show me the tyrhards crying about their SP, they all expected a wipe, but CCP can't use something to draw a crowd and then not deliver, that's not nice |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2057
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:46:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:who care. No one cares about you, does this make you sad? |
TheWee BabySeamus
Dem Durrty Boyz
9
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:48:00 -
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I have been reset multiple times through closed beta. look at it this way, because a lot of us were in the closed beta we were rewarded........................with keeping our skill points from the last character reset, which was February I believe ( I lose track). So although you may look at it as "UNFAIR", in reality it is not. As closed beta players we generated a large amount of feedback to the CCP DEVS which is helping them create the game that we all hope they do. And besides, we are really not that far ahead, once you hit 3 million SP you should have a very good fit, unless your a moron. So there is my input.
-Wee Baby
P.S. I have multiple Alts and none of them have over 4 MIL SP and I do perfectly fine, so I guess the OP deserves a nice New Eden HTFU I can even even help you out with a fit that will destroy any proto suit on the field for less than 500,000 SP.................................LOGI LAV. But BEWARE OF THE ILL NASTY FORGE GUNNERS LURKING IN THE SHADOWS
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Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
92
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:50:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Drud Green wrote:As i said op, tryhards cried loud and hard and ccp had no faith that new people would actually want to play dust. Ccp tried save Dust's meagre playerbase with a bribe.
Show me the tyrhards crying about their SP, they all expected a wipe, but CCP can't use something to draw a crowd and then not deliver, that's not nice
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Ccp promised no more resets because tryhards cried 'if you reset sp i quit. i didn't treat the beta like a beta and want a massive advantage over new players when the game is released'.
Ccp can absolutely use something to draw people out and not deliver. Closed beta merc pack.
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
221
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Posted - 2013.06.29 10:23:00 -
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We started to collect SP when the game went into open beta and some of you were not there. Now you are here not understanding why the people who were on top of things and started the game at the right time have more SP than you? What is wrong with you people? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
575
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Posted - 2013.06.29 10:25:00 -
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Unfair
What happens in other games in which players have unlocked everything and you have started? Oh nothing |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1259
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Posted - 2013.06.29 10:28:00 -
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Taurion Bruni wrote:Just remember your opinion a few years from now when the new players want to be on your level, and request that the time you spent on this game be wiped clean
Exactly. |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
183
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Posted - 2013.06.29 10:28:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I personally saw no problem with keeping my stats after the release. U WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF MOST OF NEW PLAYER WHEN THEY BEGAN I know. XD NOW LISTSEN THE REASON U NEVER PROBLEM WAS LIKE I SAID IN FIRST U GUYS WERE AHEAD OF THE NEW PLAYER THAT IT. KNOW ON THIS POST PUT UP ONLY THING I WANT TO KNOW WAS WHAT IF CCP WOULD RESET THE PPL THAT PLAY BETA REGRADLESS OF IF THEY WOULD LOSE THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE OF IT OR GAIN NEW PLAYER.
what the hell does this even say |
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