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Cordera Ray Galactic Warrior Corporation 8	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:02:00 - [1] - Quote I been thinking why CCP ddint reset the ppl that play open and beta version of dust 514? Well let explore that:[i] I wonder why CCP didn't reset the current player that play the open beta til may 14 when the game came out, I always wonder why? I started playing this game on May 14 like all new player before me, u be thinking that everyone going to be on the same level playing field as u, same suit, same weapon, same skill point which is at 500,000 naw and I wonder why is that everyone is higher than me on day one and look like they been playing for year and year In stuff. so I wonder if game that in a beta mode and u basically earn almost everything on there kill, weapon, dropsuit, skill level, all of that, may 14 are u saying that all of them didn't get reset when the game came out. So u know is it unfair to the new player because why they might just give up the game because they no way they can make it. and don't say oh im a crybaby because im talking nonsense something that already been discussed a long time ago whatever or not that CCP should reset all of the current player stat and skill to make it fair for new be on the same playing field. if ccp did just say im done with this game because that. after all know that experience u been doing, after all the learning curve just experience, u know what thing u need to get. if I ever did play the beta of this game and ccp reset everything I just do it again and have fun with it not just making a excuse and say im done because reset my stuff so the new player get a chance to whoop are ** in. What do u think thou should CCP done what they should of did reset ppl that play beta stat or leave it like so they brag about all stuff they earn for 4 month on open beta. p.s. Don't be a jack** when u decide on what to say ok just be honest.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 404	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:05:00 - [2] - Quote I played Beta since the start, before people could even "buy into it," and I've been reset at least three times... Good god, if I really got to keep the year+ SP and ISK... Oh lordy...
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 268	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:09:00 - [3] - Quote I wouldn't have minded being reset on release as long as they had something like a x2 SP weeks or summat to allow both new players to get SP, but also vets to get that much closer to where they were.
Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 312	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:10:00 - [4] - Quote iv already gone through several resets in closed beta and the beginning of open beta, if they input another reset a lot of players would quit more
B Kent Lost Souls of New Eden PMC 1	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:10:00 - [5] - Quote There have been a number of full resets throughout Dust's development. If there hadn't been, the game would be unplayable. Also, formatting is your friend.
Cordera Ray Galactic Warrior Corporation 8	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:12:00 - [6] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I played Beta since the start, before people could even "buy into it," and I've been reset at least three times... Good god, if I really got to keep the year+ SP and ISK... Oh lordy... ok but I was trying to say is what if CCP did reset ur stat on lunch day of may 14 would u still play the game or quit
Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 404	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:13:00 - [7] - Quote Cordera Ray wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I played Beta since the start, before people could even "buy into it," and I've been reset at least three times... Good god, if I really got to keep the year+ SP and ISK... Oh lordy... ok but I was trying to say is what if CCP did reset ur stat on lunch day of may 14 would u still play the game or quit I'd still play, no doubt about it.
Taurion Bruni Nightingale Logistics Pty Ltd 80	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:14:00 - [8] - Quote Just remember your opinion a few years from now when the new players want to be on your level, and request that the time you spent on this game be wiped clean
Cordera Ray Galactic Warrior Corporation 8	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:17:00 - [9] - Quote B Kent wrote: There have been a number of full resets throughout Dust's development. If there hadn't been, the game would be unplayable. Also, formatting is your friend. Ok but u do realize that full reset where ppl doing respec right not just some full reset what im talking is that why didn't CCP reset the current that play beta mode ok if there game was unplayable give me good reason why. because the veteran would not play it because there stat got reset or that they don't want to be compare to a scrub player or noob player which one is it.
mollerz Minja Scouts 518	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:30:00 - [10] - Quote WTF is this dude trying to say? Sounds about as dumb as his ability to express himself.

Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 154	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:31:00 - [11] - Quote Thats probably because people had to grind for their SP and losing it would feel like losing months of game time. CCP shouldve thought about giving players SP on top of SP they earned themselves, that way the players wont feel like they had to work for all of it themselves and wouldnt mind a reset. Having players grind to test their game? I feel like they wasted beta on gaming and not testing. I'd imagine we'd have a very different game had everyone been able to max out everything and focus on testing/balancing instead of trying to unlock things. Hell 1 week of 999,999,999 SP before Uprising couldve done a great deal for this game.
Tectonious Falcon Phaze O n e 597	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:45:00 - [12] - Quote The open beta was available to everyone. It's your fault if you decided not to play.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1030	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:47:00 - [13] - Quote I'd probably quit if they'd reset on the 14th because they explicitly said they wouldn't reset again. That reason was I downloaded the open beta. In other games that have long-term grind mechanics, I avoid playing betas if they're going to reset. Why waste time when it's still in testing? Whereas, even if the game has issues, if your progress is saved, there's a reason to play a beta at that point. At the point at which it was "open", it was advertised on the PSN (where I saw it) and anyone could pick it up if they were so inclined. So, I don't think post-open-beta is a particularly exclusive club. It's like saying people that played an MMO at launch and have items that no longer drop, etc. should be reset when you start playing a year later. They may have advantages over you, but the same opportunities were open to you.
B Kent Lost Souls of New Eden PMC 1	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:48:00 - [14] - Quote Cordera Ray wrote: B Kent wrote: There have been a number of full resets throughout Dust's development. If there hadn't been, the game would be unplayable. Also, formatting is your friend. Ok but u do realize that full reset where ppl doing respec right not just some full reset what im talking is that why didn't CCP reset the current that play beta mode ok if there game was unplayable give me good reason why. because the veteran would not play it because there stat got reset or that they don't want to be compare to a scrub player or noob player which one is it. When I say reset, I mean SP reset to zero. A "Respec" is being allowed to reallocate your SP without the overall accumulated amount changing. IMO, it's not unreasonable to think that beta testers would have their accumulated goodies reset upon commercial release of an MMO. Slippery slope though, this could alienate player base. Most developers choose a middle ground, ie allowing players from beta to have certain souvenirs while not creating too much imbalance on day one. But as stated before, give this game some time. You'll be the one with a leg up before you know it, it's cyclical.
Alucard Fang Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 14	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:50:00 - [15] - Quote Why would they? Anyone could've played during the open beta. That's like saying a guy that joins 5 years from now is at an unfair advantage. The closed beta I can understand, but anyone could've joined the open beta.
Drud Green Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 87	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:58:00 - [16] - Quote A bunch of tryhards cried about it op. Those same tryhards didn't treat the beta as a beta, it was simply a way to get a massive advantage (afk farming anybody?) The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 120	Posted - 2013.06.29 03:59:00 - [17] - Quote It's wouldnt have mattered i the long run, the state of the game wounldnt have changed from what we see now,it would just delaying the inevitable by a month(booster work wonders) and in the grand scheme of things not worth it.
Alucard Fang Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 14	Posted - 2013.06.29 04:03:00 - [18] - Quote The point is, there were resets because not everyone could play, there were no resets for open beta because you could all play. Why you waited till release? I don't know, that's your problem though.
Cordera Ray Galactic Warrior Corporation 8	Posted - 2013.06.29 04:16:00 - [19] - Quote mollerz wrote: WTF is this dude trying to say? Sounds about as dumb as his ability to express himself. Oh WTF im trying to say ok let me explain to u what I was trying to say I was wondering why CCP didn't reset the current ppl stat that play the beta mode until may 14 when the game came out. that what im talking about. if u got some dumb lame line to tell me be my guess.
Drud Green Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 87	Posted - 2013.06.29 04:16:00 - [20] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: The point is, there were resets because not everyone could play, there were no resets for open beta because you could all play. Why you waited till release? I don't know, that's your problem though. You are full of it. No reset because vets had a massive cry /thread

Cordera Ray Galactic Warrior Corporation 8	Posted - 2013.06.29 04:19:00 - [21] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: The open beta was available to everyone. It's your fault if you decided not to play. So u saying that it our fault that we didn't play the beta mode or that just a excuses on ur part maybe ur right I didn't play the beta because I never heard heard of this until may 14 on a youtube AD. but funny thou because should reset the ppl that play beta mode and would been a lot better.
Alucard Fang Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 14	Posted - 2013.06.29 04:28:00 - [22] - Quote Most open betas don't have character resets. The upcoming Final Fantasy XIV won't, for example. This game has been pretty well know for years. Not to mention if you even had a PS3 even when the game was in beta it was plastered all over the PS Store. Don't blame us because you didn't play it earlier. Are we supposed to feel sorry for some guy that joins 5 years from now?
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 140	Posted - 2013.06.29 05:11:00 - [23] - Quote Look closely kiddies. this is the type of ****** that CCP has to cater to in order to obtain new players. interesting isn't?
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 205	Posted - 2013.06.29 05:14:00 - [24] - Quote Drud Green wrote: A bunch of tryhards cried about it op. Those same tryhards didn't treat the beta as a beta, it was simply a way to get a massive advantage (afk farming anybody?) The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset. Ah ha, there's that word again "tryhards". Does it actually work? You know, does it actually make you feel better if you proclaim they're a tryhard when you get owned by someone more skilled? And why should anyone not tryhard, we all play to win no? I know I'm not casually strolling through the battlefield with my HMG taking it easy, I'm trying to win. By the way AFK farming started long after CCP announced No More Resets PERIOD, barring some sort of catastrophe.
Drud Green Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 90	Posted - 2013.06.29 05:29:00 - [25] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: Drud Green wrote: A bunch of tryhards cried about it op. Those same tryhards didn't treat the beta as a beta, it was simply a way to get a massive advantage (afk farming anybody?) The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset. Ah ha, there's that word again "tryhards". Does it actually work? You know, does it actually make you feel better if you proclaim they're a tryhard when you get owned by someone more skilled? And why should anyone not tryhard, we all play to win no? I know I'm not casually strolling through the battlefield with my HMG taking it easy, I'm trying to win. By the way AFK farming started long after CCP announced No More Resets PERIOD, barring some sort of catastrophe. No, calling people a tryhard doesn't work as i barely play since uprising, can't get full games in my region and it's way to laggy playing in us or eu. When you say 'more skilled', did you mean more skill points? Tryhard = play to win Non-Tyrhard = play to have fun and win
Delenne Arran Ivory Hounds 8	Posted - 2013.06.29 05:45:00 - [26] - Quote They didn't reset because the game was basically released at that point anyway. Anyone with a PS3 who wanted to play DUST has been able to do so since January 22. Someone who starts in October would be at the same disadvantage if they had done a reset.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2844	Posted - 2013.06.29 05:48:00 - [27] - Quote Really? We ALL had the same starting point - open beta might as well been the real release of this game. The whole, "Game launch" didn't mean anything other then we can no longer say, "It's cool the game sux - just a beta." excuse.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2052	Posted - 2013.06.29 06:06:00 - [28] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: I'd probably quit if they'd reset on the 14th because they explicitly said they wouldn't reset again. That reason was why I downloaded the open beta. In other games that have long-term grind mechanics, I avoid playing betas if they're going to reset. Why waste time when it's still in testing? This.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2052	Posted - 2013.06.29 06:16:00 - [29] - Quote Drud wrote: The tryhards cried hard enough and voila no more reset. Don't say stupid ****. Do you know what the main purpose behind an Open Beta is, aside from getting word out on the game? Stress testing the servers. In order to stress test the servers you need a high amount of players. How the hell do you think CCP was going to get the amount of people needed to properly do this when the build that they used for OB had already been around since pretty much September? They knew most of the vets wouldn't play this game without an Incentive. No more SP resets was their incentive, it's not something people asked for, it's something CCP decided to do because they knew it was the only way to retain their existing customers. This was CCP's choice. Also, you had the same opportunity to play that everyone else did, it's not our problem if you didn't.
Drud Green Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 90	Posted - 2013.06.29 06:26:00 - [30] - Quote This should be a non issue, matchmaker matchmaker make me a match. There aren't really enough people on at any one time for a matchmaker to work, i can already join the same half empty game over n over.



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