Hostiles should be either massacred or their battles ignored to ensure their playing experience is ruined. Relentless metagaming should take place such that the conflict is as demoralizing and unfair as possible. [...] What matters is that our foe does not want to log into the game. We have taken out superior forces by ruining their gameplay to the point that they do not bother logging on. You can kill a hostile clone by shooting it, or by ensuring it never logs in in the first place.

Basically: every large block in Dust agrees to move to Oddelulf at the same time. Why Oddelulf? Because two of the largest blocks participating in it have districts there already -- and the 3rd can just put down some clone packs.

Ok, that's a valid point.

PC did what it said it would...
What we have now is an "end game" that has limited participation and public matches with no matchmaking structure.

This statement has merit. It feels like we are playing a game out of sequence. Like only playing the 2nd to last hour of play in a week long RPG and we are expected to care.
I can feel for the Hardcore players out there. Its like climbing to the top of a hill wondering whats next and finding...
Nothing.
To me the game feels purposeless, hollow, if you will.
I can bear the grinding and the skilling but it seems... without purpose.

This statement has merit. It feels like we are playing a game out of sequence. Like only playing the 2nd to last hour of play in a week long RPG and we are expected to care.
I can feel for the Hardcore players out there. Its like climbing to the top of a hill wondering whats next and finding...
Nothing.
To me the game feels purposeless, hollow, if you will.
I can bear the grinding and the skilling but it seems... without purpose.

Modified Mittens wrote:
Hostiles should be either massacred or their battles ignored to ensure their playing experience is ruined. Relentless metagaming should take place such that the conflict is as demoralizing and unfair as possible. [...] What matters is that our foe does not want to log into the game. We have taken out superior forces by ruining their gameplay to the point that they do not bother logging on. You can kill a hostile clone by shooting it, or by ensuring it never logs in in the first place.

There are no really worthy excuses. If you're from one of those two regions and you're out, you lost. That includes Negative Feedback in particular, since their opinions in this area are most rampant across the forums.

What matters is that our foe does not want to log into the game. We have taken out superior forces by ruining their gameplay to the point that they do not bother logging on. You can kill a hostile clone by shooting it, or by ensuring it never logs in in the first place.

IMPS metaed their way out of PC by spending themselves on Sver. Now they are basically dead to the game.

lol. you think NF is out because they spent all their money on SVER?
SVER was just an easy target.

The broken game mechanics of PC caused this game to be dead to the players of NF,
not the other way around.
NF will be back when this game gets its **** together.

PC is not a fail yet it only works for the usa and uk?

In other words PC is a fail.

Interesting read, and I agree with a lot of the ideas in this thread.

I do just want to point out that the bad frame rate people have been seeing is not based on the region you are in, although we are absolutely aware of network latency also being a challenge in resolving conflicts in one universe // one war.

We have some fixes coming for both the frame rate and some tuning to planetary conquest. There are also a lot of longer term design work going on right now on how to fix the kinks in the PC mechanics and how to fill the gap between instant battle and PC, especially for organized corps who just want to squad together for low commitment engagements.

Thanks for the feedback.

Respectfully... do you read the posts without generous titles too? Sorry... love the game, definitely appreciating recent improvement in communications.

Yeah we do, this one just happened to be the top thread today in GD.

Yeah we do, this one just happened to be the top thread today in GD.

Ok, that's a valid point.

PC did what it said it would, in and of itself, but the game is poorly wired together in other ways as well on top of the poor core mechanics - when we use that term I'm sure someone on the dev staff throws a coffee cup, but something feels off in the way the game behaves.

How may players actually had a chance to participate in PC? Why is there no small corp variant? there's no real motivation to better yourself in this game other than the ability to run better gear in the same 4 maps.

Honestly, I think things like matchmaking and core mechanics to pull and hold new players should have been given priority with PC taking a back seat while simple corp battles and challenges filled the void.. Sure the vets would have been bored, but we expected to be bored and burnt on launch.

What we have now is an "end game" that has limited participation and public matches with no matchmaking structure.

There is a small corp variant. It's called join an alliance and be a ringer for someone.

Hell you can do that as an entirely solo player, if you're competent. And the payout is substantially better than pub matches -- assuming you win.

The problem isn't that the small corps and solo players can't participate in PC. It's that they believe they cannot. In this particular case, ignorance and fear are the enemy. Not the game mechanics. Human nature is all there is to blame.

so, we lost? that's news to me.

i haven't seen many sver folks on as of late...

Drop the clone packs to 5 mil for a week and see what happens.

Interesting read, and I agree with a lot of the ideas in this thread.

I do just want to point out that the bad frame rate people have been seeing is not based on the region you are in, although we are absolutely aware of network latency also being a challenge in resolving conflicts in one universe // one war.

We have some fixes coming for both the frame rate and some tuning to planetary conquest. There are also a lot of longer term design work going on right now on how to fix the kinks in the PC mechanics and how to fill the gap between instant battle and PC, especially for organized corps who just want to squad together for low commitment engagements.

Thanks for the feedback.

I guess all his opponents showed up for battle.

Sitting in merc quarters making teams 30- 45 minutes. Waiting in war barge for opponents to show. Playing in an empty batlle for 10-30 minutes loads of fun.

Oh wait we have 15 more battles planned against that corp to take their planet/ hodings etc. We get to waste a lot of time after that team gives up. Just what we enjoy most waiting to play a game and no shows over and over.


Yea the mechanics are perfect!

Ok, that's a valid point.

PC did what it said it would, in and of itself, but the game is poorly wired together in other ways as well on top of the poor core mechanics - when we use that term I'm sure someone on the dev staff throws a coffee cup, but something feels off in the way the game behaves.

How may players actually had a chance to participate in PC? Why is there no small corp variant? there's no real motivation to better yourself in this game other than the ability to run better gear in the same 4 maps.

Honestly, I think things like matchmaking and core mechanics to pull and hold new players should have been given priority with PC taking a back seat while simple corp battles and challenges filled the void.. Sure the vets would have been bored, but we expected to be bored and burnt on launch.

What we have now is an "end game" that has limited participation and public matches with no matchmaking structure.