I've made posts about this before, but I thought I should make a simple thread on this subject.

Change the LR damage increase to be based on time that the beam spends on the target, rather than how long you fire the weapon.

No matter what other balance changes may be made, with the current mechanics, you will always be able to cook the LR up to 90% heat level and then sweep back and forth across the head of your target until you get the kill.

I propose that the damage increase rate be buffed, but that the increase only occur while the beam is on the target.

If the beam comes off the target, have the multiplier lower at half the rate of the increase, such that a player who is good at strafing has a reasonable chance against an LR even if they're using another weapon. Meanwhile, as skilled LR user can simply track them as they strafe and keep building their damage without the weapon being susceptible to stupid cheese like I stated above.

I see this as a way that Laser Rifles can be given back their deadliness at range without being cheesy faceroll like they were in Chromosome.

I think, from a programming standpoint, this could cause massive issues.

While 'cooking' a laser rifle requires a single variable set applied to your character.

Setting it up so each 'Laser Rifle' has a unique tag that's applied to the target could mean a large array of variables... for each target.

If you don't have each being an individual variable... 2 Laser Rifles firing on one target will increase damage by 200%, and keep the 'debuff' on the target if only one loses contact. 3 would be even faster....

The ways it could be abused could stack up really quickly.

And the heat method is more in-line with game emchanics anyway. Your laser gets hotter, produces more energy, and funnels it out into a beam. The beam, since more energy is poured into it, gets stronger.



I do agree on the sights... the new sights are horrid.

I've made posts about this before, but I thought I should make a simple thread on this subject.

Change the LR damage increase to be based on time that the beam spends on the target, rather than how long you fire the weapon.

No matter what other balance changes may be made, with the current mechanics, you will always be able to cook the LR up to 90% heat level and then sweep back and forth across the head of your target until you get the kill.

I propose that the damage increase rate be buffed, but that the increase only occur while the beam is on the target.

If the beam comes off the target, have the multiplier lower at half the rate of the increase, such that a player who is good at strafing has a reasonable chance against an LR even if they're using another weapon. Meanwhile, as skilled LR user can simply track them as they strafe and keep building their damage without the weapon being susceptible to stupid cheese like I stated above.

I see this as a way that Laser Rifles can be given back their deadliness at range without being cheesy faceroll like they were in Chromosome.

I very much like this idea, right now its a terrible weapon. I have yet to be killed by one since Uprising, I tried it myself on several occasions with an alt, and its just such a terrible weapon; even if you have a good view of a target, and you're at the best possible range, it still takes unreasonably long for it to actually kill.
Damage buildup needs to be faster, and requiring for the beam to hit the target for the damage to build up is a great idea because it will reward skill.

Alright first of all if CCP takes out the laser rifle out of the game then **** it i'm leaving cause that is about the only cool weapon that i like to use (i know you guys don't care if i leave and blah blah blah).

Secondly for the love of god the laser rifle is NOT worthless I use it on most maps and i usually get about 15/3 when i get a map thats good for the laser rifle. The thing that i see what most people are having trouble understanding about the weapon is that its very situational and you NEED to know when to retreat to an open area and lure people to come after you. There no shame in retreating so that you can then regain your advantage. Also i would suggest to anyone considering to use the laser rifle is that you should position yourself ABOVE and AWAY from the frontlines.

Third pick your targets wisely unlike the AR this is not a spray and pray weapon its a precision LASER weapon. Si what does that mean you may ask yourself? Well it means that since the majority of players love to join the band wagon of going shield CALDARI (hint hint nudge nudge) then you're going to shred through their defences and when i mean shred that's an understatement i should say obliterate.

Now last but not least if you have ANY questions about this marvelous (did i spell that right?) weapon feel free to ask me anything or just send me mail in-game. Hope this was helpful.

Sincerely,
Echo,

Alright first of all if CCP takes out the laser rifle out of the game then **** it i'm leaving cause that is about the only cool weapon that i like to use (i know you guys don't care if i leave and blah blah blah).

Secondly for the love of god the laser rifle is NOT worthless I use it on most maps and i usually get about 15/3 when i get a map thats good for the laser rifle. The thing that i see what most people are having trouble understanding about the weapon is that its very situational and you NEED to know when to retreat to an open area and lure people to come after you. There no shame in retreating so that you can then regain your advantage. Also i would suggest to anyone considering to use the laser rifle is that you should position yourself ABOVE and AWAY from the frontlines.

Third pick your targets wisely unlike the AR this is not a spray and pray weapon its a precision LASER weapon. Si what does that mean you may ask yourself? Well it means that since the majority of players love to join the band wagon of going shield CALDARI (hint hint nudge nudge) then you're going to shred through their defences and when i mean shred that's an understatement i should say obliterate.

Now last but not least if you have ANY questions about this marvelous (did i spell that right?) weapon feel free to ask me anything or just send me mail in-game. Hope this was helpful.

Sincerely,
Echo,

Is the damage tied to how long it's been continuously firing or is it just heat level right now? Been a long time since I've used one.

Dude everyone here know how to use the laser....we just want to see it return to Dust because right now it is a weapon that needs so work done to it.

Based off how long the rifle has been firing which in my opinion its better for the rifle.

DUDE you'd be really surprised by how many really good players i know use the weapon incorrectly.

Fair enough.

...Secondly for the love of god the laser rifle is NOT worthless I use it on most maps and i usually get about 15/3 when i get a map thats good for the laser rifle. The thing that i see what most people are having trouble understanding about the weapon is that its very situational and you NEED to know when to retreat to an open area and lure people to come after you. There no shame in retreating so that you can then regain your advantage. Also i would suggest to anyone considering to use the laser rifle is that you should position yourself ABOVE and AWAY from the frontlines.

Third pick your targets wisely unlike the AR this is not a spray and pray weapon its a precision LASER weapon. Si what does that mean you may ask yourself? Well it means that since the majority of players love to join the band wagon of going shield CALDARI (hint hint nudge nudge) then you're going to shred through their defences and when i mean shred that's an understatement i should say obliterate.

How well would you have done if you had played the matches exactly the same way but with a TAC (the LR's counterpart) assuming you had equivalent gear and skills for it? There are many serious handicaps to the LR (as there should be) that the TAC doesn't have, but are there situations where the LR really shines and the TAC fails? I haven't seen any of them. It doesn't have the up-close range penalty, it doesn't reveal your location to everyone, it doesn't overheat, it does excellent DPS in the right hands, it's great against armor and shields, it doesn't require you to pop your head out of cover, vulnerable for significant periods to be effective, it can do damage quickly and not require you to burn through ammo heating it up.

So what situations are you happy you have an LR instead of a TAC? Where are it's advantages? The LR feels like the ugly step-sister to the TAC, instead of a niche weapon that can really outshine the TAC in certain tactical scenarios, while being limited in all of the other ways I mentioned.

The laser rifle isn't as much 'useless' as it is not useful. The SCR does everything the LR does better.

The LR needs to get hotter faster and have longer range.

and speaking of comparing the LR to the SCR - changing the LR to do more damage as long as it stays on target does nothing but make it a version of the SCR that lets your target know you are charging it and lets them cancel the charge by jumping.

Well isn't an offensive weapon technically unlike the SCR its meant to hold down small areas like the HMG but just at longer ranges. While at the same time the SCR is more so used to "push" for the objectives. And i think this is where people tend not to understand Or simply ignore the specific use of this weapon. For example today i wavplaying ambush and as usual i was using my trusty laser. When i realized that the enemy was trying to flank us from a specific CRU so i went to the gate corresponding to the CRU and held back two heavies, one ar user, and a mass driver. So what did this do for my team? Stoped an enemy force from flanking is and gave my squad/ corp mates enough time to go in and nuetralize the CRU. Sadly while they were capturing the CRU i got sniped lol. My point is while most people want a weapon that they can use to capture things that not what this weapon is for rather its better used in a squad to hold down a position or surpress the enemy at a specific location. Much like the sniper does but more aggressively. And as far as the damage goes it may need a oh so slight and when i mean slight i mean like real small buff to either its heat build up or base damage.

I've been using the LR since it was first introduced. I know the ins and the outs of the weapon and what it should be used for.

It doesn't do those things very well anymore. It needs faster heat buildup and/or a wider optimal range to give it back the "oh **** laser" effect it had. Sure you can get kills with it, but it doesn't have the fear factor it needs to make an enemy squad keep their heads down.

The SCR or tac AR can do the things a LR is supposed to be unrivaled at much better, and theyare able to be used to push an objective or be useful at close quarters.

I do really like the fact you are trying to educate people on the weapon, though.