Since the rest of your reply is one huge strawman and a repetition of fallacies you have already been called out on, i will focus on just one thing and rest my case:

Given:
STD=1320
PRO=1980

Determine how many % of STD are in PRO.

Calculation:

PRO/STD*100=x

We fill the variables:
1980/1320*100=150%

Two things

1. There are no Such thing as ADV and PROTO LAVs and HAVs. there are the Glass Cannon Enforcer, or the Radically Annoying LLAV. But there are no ADV and PROTO Vehicles.

2. Why is everybody trying to use AV nades as their Primary AV Weapon? Remember Star Wars Battlefront 1? Remember those Concussive Grenades? Those are our AV Nades. You are Supposed to run from HAVs! Or Get a Swarm, which Deals 1500+ Damage to the Vehicles. AV Nades are there so you can go and Randomly throw them at Vehicles to put a Smudge of Damage on them while you are Running away.

Yeah marauders were good but maybe they were a little op they work a bit different in eve.

And yea the enforcer are terrible considering all tanks have been nerfed by 20% damage.

Same with Black Ops HAVs, which I never really understood anyway.

I mean, retooling Marauders is cool, but why the hell would anyone want an HAV that still only has 3 slots but is supposed to be specced to act as a covert mobile spawn point? People would have put all the SP into them and then just bitched about them being useless.

Personally, I think they might go for Black Ops MAVs. The MAVs look designed to fill a role similar to an APC or IFV anyway, and if they have low Scan Signature and could maybe even fit cloaks, that'd make them a lot like Planetside 1 AMSs, which would actually be pretty cool as far as I'm concerned.

You don't know the rules of the forums because you have violated them and you have no idea what it is like to have 3 people with prototype grenades and prototype swarm launchers try to take out an prototype LAV/HAV. I recommend that you play the game more and put some skill into your AV grenades along with your Swarm Launcher to see how much little damage it does to counter the HAV and LAV. The SP and ISK costs associated with the LAV and HAV are irrelevant. Your argument is invalid due to your close mindedness and bias opinion.

That is incorrect. Explosives such as AV grenades and Swarm Launchers do the same amount of damage to shields and armor. I actually went to the Marketplace on the game and looked at the stats. There is no indication in the stats that states that your theory is correct. Your argument is invalid.

>claims that my reply is flawed
>must be in denial
>must be jealous that I'm smart enough to figure out the math of the equation while having the actual art of knowing how to debate in a professional matter
>didn't bother to read the whole thread otherwise he would of noticed that everything that I've been called out on has been proven wrong
>Irestmycase.jpg
>MFW I notice that this calculation makes no sense and has nothing to do with the argument
>Click here for a picture of the face.

Hmmm. Yes lav hp should be nerfed,

You know, if you Stopped protecting your wrongedness, we could go on to a New Thread and Not have to Argue over the Truth.

You Need to Stop being the forum Police about us being "Meanies" and start to Realize that everyone is a "Meanie".

So, as a Rip-off of another Idiot Forum Warrior

>You Assume that from Experience in other Games that AV weapons will be Stong, and Potent
>Upon Learning otherwise you ran to the Forums and complained with Unfocused arguments and lack of Solution Suggestion.
>I've Been Playing Dust for 6 Months, and I'm still ****** at playing it.
>You Didn't Read the Info About the Swarm enough, or else you would have realized what we already know, and we wouldn't have to beat it into your head with an Orbital
>AV Nades Should Never have been put in, as it gives an Assault 3 Roles, where ever other role can only do one thing at a time.
>Youarguementwasalwaysinvalid.failwhale.xxx.com

IDC whether it has already been bought up here I am FUMING that you think that Tanks are OP. Here is why you are already wrong:

1) Shield is better at defending missiles/swarm launchers/AV grenades but succumbs to flux grenades (TIP) and FG/CA Installation

My tank is only STD and it can take maybe 100 DMG from a AV grenade, why? because I skilled that way - and I have the right modules.

2) Armor is the opposite, better at warding of FG/RG but succumbs to AV Grenades, missiles, and SL

If you think tanks are OP, you should inspect what type of Tank it is FIRST

Skill into the right areas if you want to AV.

Bhavesh

Yeah marauders were good but maybe they were a little op they work a bit different in eve.

And yea the enforcer are terrible considering all tanks have been nerfed by 20% damage.

Marauders in Dust are supposed to be the Dreds in EVE, which is why many people (including me) want seige modules for them.

Anyways, this guy is a joke for thinking at AV is UP and that there's a PROTO vehicle. There isn't one, and They are not UP. Troll dectcted, and shot down.


Peace, Godin

You're talking to the guys who are vets, know the game inside and out, and has played (most likely) every class there is. Please be quiet and walk. And just to let you know, I use ADV swarms and STD AV grenades, and eaisly down HAV's. YOu sir suck. Also, like we have told you, there is no suck thing as a PROTO HAV.


Peace, Godin

It doesn't say it, but it's true. You're clearly new to all of this, Welcome to New Eden bluedot.

Ok, you are either a troll or a great example of Dunning Kruger in action.

I would still really be interested in this math you figured out all by yourself. Go ahead, prove that you're right by showing that 6/4 does not equal 1.5 in the decimal system.

alright plz stop feeding the troll. obviously this guy is one of maybe, what half a dozen? that have problems playing with rockets. damage is affected by whats its up against like shields or armor. nothing needs to be nerfed or buffed. try being in an lav while im shooting u up with missles and we'll see how easy it is for u to evade and not die. geez.

It's been fun, Robinson. It was especially entertaining back when you just looked woefully ignorant, but the whole "6 is not 150% of 4" thing just ruinied the entire illusion. You stepped over the line and blew your cover, but you had a good run.

The "I've been playing for 6 weeks, totally not new" thing was a nice touch, though.

It's been fun, Robinson. It was especially entertaining back when you just looked woefully ignorant, but the whole "6 is not 150% of 4" thing just ruinied the entire illusion. You stepped over the line and blew your cover, but you had a good run.

The "I've been playing for 6 weeks, totally not new" thing was a nice touch, though.

its much better once you hide the OP post because of his love to spam and reply personally to each and every post like it is correct when everyone who has played before open beta at just LOL at him because his post are just that bad.

>assumes that I'm spamming
>doesn't know what spamming is
>should probably go read a dictionary
>assumes that everyone who has played before 5/14/2013 is all "lol" about what I said
>assumes my posts are bad

>assumes I'm a troll
>assumes I have problems with rockets
>assumes that nothing needs to be nerfed or buffed
>probably hasn't been playing this game for very long
>played with multiple people from SVER True Blood
>they have said the same thing I have said
>assumes that my Militia LAV will withstand as much damage as a maxed out LAV would
>mustbecrazy.jpg

I am sick and tired of seeing prototype or advanced LAVs and HAVs when my advanced AV grenades do so little damage to them. All of the Swarm Launchers do the same damage and do more damage than the prototype AV grenades. It's all about getting those logistic LAVs now since you're basically unstoppable. I demand that you fix this.

You don't know the rules of the forums because you have violated them and you have no idea what it is like to have 3 people with prototype grenades and prototype swarm launchers try to take out an prototype LAV/HAV. I recommend that you play the game more and put some skill into your AV grenades along with your Swarm Launcher to see how much little damage it does to counter the HAV and LAV. The SP and ISK costs associated with the LAV and HAV are irrelevant. Your argument is invalid due to your close mindedness and bias opinion.

Your kidding right? Serious, you don't even need prototype nades or swarm launchers to take out tanks. One swarm launcher is plenty to take out tanks, two milita swarm launchers with flux is pretty much done.