Not sure if trolling or completely ******* ********.

You're either a troll or very ignorant about what its like for tankers. I recommend making an alt account and skill into tanks to see the massive SP and ISK costs associated with tanks, and to see how easily all that ISK can be destroyed by much cheaper prototype AV weapons.

first of all, not to be mean but...are u a moron? i mean come on use militia swarms on on the vehichles for one. two AV aint gonna work on all of em. caldari tanks need flux grenades cause they take out shields. AV grenades are needed more on Gallenete because its explosive aka-armor killer!. not to mention bob and weave son! a single proto swarm launcher can destroy a a logi lav in like to shots. hell ive seen cause i was in it when it went critical(jumped of the gunner seat like a boss though) as far as tanks as long as theyre not Marauder level (of which ive only seen two people EVER use to win) then u have nothing much to worry about. its called synergy in teams my friend

there are no advanced or prototype HAVs in this game. only militia and standard

There are weapons currently in Dust 514 which do more damage against armor or shields and less against the other.

Explosives such as AV nades and swarms do more damage to armor HP than shields.
Weapons like the scram and laser do more damage to shields than armor.
Hybrid weapons do solid damage to both tho it seems like they are slightly weighted toward shields tho they maintain high values against both.

Prob a noob from starhawk or PS2 used to easily killing tanks with his rocket launcher in one - 3 shots.
then coming to Dust 514 meeting 1 good tanker or LAV driver and doesnt kill them with 1 AV nade.

Honestly they need to rename av nades to anti armor nades......heavy shields take less damage from av nades you want to flux shields and av armor .......swarms are anti armor mostly while forge guns are anti shield

Except that having 6 missiles instead of 4 per volley makes it a 50% dmg increase from STD to PRO wich is more of a boost than what most other PRO weapons get. I don't condone name calling but i can understand that people get angry when you make demands based on ignorance on the subject.

Also:
It actually is correct. There are no ADV or PRO type HAVs in the game as of now and no, we do not know what you mean if you state falsehoods based on what i would describe kindly as a lax use terminology. It's no one else's fault than yours if you don't do proper research before putting your ideas up to the scrutiny of your fellow posters.

Since the rest of your reply is one huge strawman and a repetition of fallacies you have already been called out on, i will focus on just one thing and rest my case:

Given:
STD=1320
PRO=1980

Determine how many % of STD are in PRO.

Calculation:

PRO/STD*100=x

We fill the variables:
1980/1320*100=150%

Two things

1. There are no Such thing as ADV and PROTO LAVs and HAVs. there are the Glass Cannon Enforcer, or the Radically Annoying LLAV. But there are no ADV and PROTO Vehicles.

2. Why is everybody trying to use AV nades as their Primary AV Weapon? Remember Star Wars Battlefront 1? Remember those Concussive Grenades? Those are our AV Nades. You are Supposed to run from HAVs! Or Get a Swarm, which Deals 1500+ Damage to the Vehicles. AV Nades are there so you can go and Randomly throw them at Vehicles to put a Smudge of Damage on them while you are Running away.

You know, if you Stopped protecting your wrongedness, we could go on to a New Thread and Not have to Argue over the Truth.

You Need to Stop being the forum Police about us being "Meanies" and start to Realize that everyone is a "Meanie".

So, as a Rip-off of another Idiot Forum Warrior

>You Assume that from Experience in other Games that AV weapons will be Stong, and Potent
>Upon Learning otherwise you ran to the Forums and complained with Unfocused arguments and lack of Solution Suggestion.
>I've Been Playing Dust for 6 Months, and I'm still ****** at playing it.
>You Didn't Read the Info About the Swarm enough, or else you would have realized what we already know, and we wouldn't have to beat it into your head with an Orbital
>AV Nades Should Never have been put in, as it gives an Assault 3 Roles, where ever other role can only do one thing at a time.
>Youarguementwasalwaysinvalid.failwhale.xxx.com

IDC whether it has already been bought up here I am FUMING that you think that Tanks are OP. Here is why you are already wrong:

1) Shield is better at defending missiles/swarm launchers/AV grenades but succumbs to flux grenades (TIP) and FG/CA Installation

My tank is only STD and it can take maybe 100 DMG from a AV grenade, why? because I skilled that way - and I have the right modules.

2) Armor is the opposite, better at warding of FG/RG but succumbs to AV Grenades, missiles, and SL

If you think tanks are OP, you should inspect what type of Tank it is FIRST

Skill into the right areas if you want to AV.

Bhavesh

Yeah marauders were good but maybe they were a little op they work a bit different in eve.

And yea the enforcer are terrible considering all tanks have been nerfed by 20% damage.

Marauders in Dust are supposed to be the Dreds in EVE, which is why many people (including me) want seige modules for them.

Anyways, this guy is a joke for thinking at AV is UP and that there's a PROTO vehicle. There isn't one, and They are not UP. Troll dectcted, and shot down.


Peace, Godin

You're talking to the guys who are vets, know the game inside and out, and has played (most likely) every class there is. Please be quiet and walk. And just to let you know, I use ADV swarms and STD AV grenades, and eaisly down HAV's. YOu sir suck. Also, like we have told you, there is no suck thing as a PROTO HAV.


Peace, Godin

It doesn't say it, but it's true. You're clearly new to all of this, Welcome to New Eden bluedot.

Ok, you are either a troll or a great example of Dunning Kruger in action.

I would still really be interested in this math you figured out all by yourself. Go ahead, prove that you're right by showing that 6/4 does not equal 1.5 in the decimal system.

alright plz stop feeding the troll. obviously this guy is one of maybe, what half a dozen? that have problems playing with rockets. damage is affected by whats its up against like shields or armor. nothing needs to be nerfed or buffed. try being in an lav while im shooting u up with missles and we'll see how easy it is for u to evade and not die. geez.

It's been fun, Robinson. It was especially entertaining back when you just looked woefully ignorant, but the whole "6 is not 150% of 4" thing just ruinied the entire illusion. You stepped over the line and blew your cover, but you had a good run.

The "I've been playing for 6 weeks, totally not new" thing was a nice touch, though.

its much better once you hide the OP post because of his love to spam and reply personally to each and every post like it is correct when everyone who has played before open beta at just LOL at him because his post are just that bad.