Alright listen.. You got your respec, a few of thought the respec idea was stupid/silly post release but we looked past it.. But Im going to get this out on the board..

You cant be serious in asking for -ANOTHER- respec after 1.2, I mean seriously this is a lesson youre going to just have to learn and accept. You made a mistake, and fixed it by going with the flavor ofthe month. Noone forced you to go with what we all knew was going to inevitably get fixed. New armor modules coming out probably wont even touch the whopping issues with Shield vs Armor tanking in infantry considering the Ferroscale - having no speed reductions - will probably get used by shield tankers anyway.

So, no. This player doesnt think you should have your hand held through every update. Just because new materials come out doesnt mean you cansuddenly change your mind on things, nor because it was nerfed when we knew it was going to anyway. You should have tosave up SP for your new toy like the rest of us. I made some stupid decisions (Medium Frame V thinking it affected the Assault bonus ala Eve) but I manned up and moved on.

As much as I give people **** for saying it thisis truly an issue where you should HTFU and be proud of your stupid decisions. Plus its more rewarding when you work for it. This isnt minecraft with hacks, youre in it for the long run kiddo.

Alright listen.. You got your respec, a few of thought the respec idea was stupid/silly post release but we looked past it.. But Im going to get this out on the board..

You cant be serious in asking for -ANOTHER- respec after 1.2, I mean seriously this is a lesson youre going to just have to learn and accept. You made a mistake, and fixed it by going with the flavor ofthe month. Noone forced you to go with what we all knew was going to inevitably get fixed. New armor modules coming out probably wont even touch the whopping issues with Shield vs Armor tanking in infantry considering the Ferroscale - having no speed reductions - will probably get used by shield tankers anyway.

So, no. This player doesnt think you should have your hand held through every update. Just because new materials come out doesnt mean you cansuddenly change your mind on things, nor because it was nerfed when we knew it was going to anyway. You should have tosave up SP for your new toy like the rest of us. I made some stupid decisions (Medium Frame V thinking it affected the Assault bonus ala Eve) but I manned up and moved on.

As much as I give people **** for saying it thisis truly an issue where you should HTFU and be proud of your stupid decisions. Plus its more rewarding when you work for it. This isnt minecraft with hacks, youre in it for the long run kiddo.

I agree. I could cope with another respec in X month after several successive updates and balance pass considering the state of the game and before a proper respec system is added (1/2 respec per year). Other than that, respecs cannot happend every 2 weeks or so. OR when the slightest thing gets adjusted.

I agree. I could cope with another respec in X month after several successive updates and balance pass considering the state of the game and before a proper respec system is added (1/2 respec per year). Other than that, respecs cannot happend every 2 weeks or so. OR when the slightest thing gets adjusted.

I just want everyone that asked for a respec to get theirs....

I know a few ppl that even NOW have NOT gotten their respec....

sad enough tons of ppl had to wait over a month longer than others, but even now there remain some that are still twisting in the wind.

if/when something like this happens, it needs to happen to everyone at the same time. just not fair otherwise to essentialy single out certain people..

and honestly none of this concerns me personally. I got a respec for the simple fact that I enjoy allocating SP, and with the amount I have, that's a LOT of fun ;)

look, with every single one of my respecs i went nk+heavy. because i was pretty sure they would have fixed us. well guess what. i just got my respec and nk+heavy is still broken. so i deserve another respec.

Alright listen.. You got your respec, a few of thought the respec idea was stupid/silly post release but we looked past it.. But Im going to get this out on the board..

You cant be serious in asking for -ANOTHER- respec after 1.2, I mean seriously this is a lesson youre going to just have to learn and accept. You made a mistake, and fixed it by going with the flavor ofthe month. Noone forced you to go with what we all knew was going to inevitably get fixed. New armor modules coming out probably wont even touch the whopping issues with Shield vs Armor tanking in infantry considering the Ferroscale - having no speed reductions - will probably get used by shield tankers anyway.

So, no. This player doesnt think you should have your hand held through every update. Just because new materials come out doesnt mean you cansuddenly change your mind on things, nor because it was nerfed when we knew it was going to anyway. You should have tosave up SP for your new toy like the rest of us. I made some stupid decisions (Medium Frame V thinking it affected the Assault bonus ala Eve) but I manned up and moved on.

As much as I give people **** for saying it thisis truly an issue where you should HTFU and be proud of your stupid decisions. Plus its more rewarding when you work for it. This isnt minecraft with hacks, youre in it for the long run kiddo.

I don't want a respec because there's nothing better for me to spec into.

I want respec's because they're healthy for player retention.

You will be locked into one playstyle and like it, young man.

I don't want a respec because there's nothing better for me to spec into.

I want respec's because they're healthy for player retention.

Plus I'm really not looking forward to someone discovering an exploit or build that is way more powerful than it was intended to be and then within 48 hours 75% the players in the game are running it with maxed skills only to switch to the next thing when someone discovers it.

Allowing respecs does not mean they are free, painless, or available any time someone wants one.

Do respecs really increase replay value? I say at least for part of the playerbase they do not.

I'm sorry, but your opinion is bullshit, and let me tell you why.

As of the last respec, I became an Assault after being primarily a Heavy for a long time. Why? Because they released racial variants of the Assault suits. I'm going full Minmatar, and the only thing close to what I wanted was the Minmatar Assault. So I ran with that. I don't know much about the new update [as soon as I got new games, I find I've been playing DUST less and less], but if it's bringing in new content, like new weapons or new suits, then there better be a respec. Because I'm not an Assault by choice. I refuse to invest in Amarr gear on principle, because I'm into my character, because I want to enjoy this game. As soon as the Minmatar Heavy goes live, if I don't already get a respec, you can expect me here on the forums demanding one, because that's all I've wanted from the beginning: my preferred racial variant of the Heavy suit.

Honestly, if CCP didn't want to hear a bunch of people complaining for respecs or refits, then they should have finished the game before releasing it.

I agree. I could cope with another respec in X month after several successive updates and balance pass considering the state of the game and before a proper respec system is added (1/2 respec per year). Other than that, respecs cannot happend every 2 weeks or so. OR when the slightest thing gets adjusted.

Your opinion of myopinion being bullshit is just that - an opinion. I want to roll a Crusader suit or even a Sentinel, hell the Commando looks cool too. Im not bitching, wanna know why?

Because Ive still got Engineering 4/5 and a multitude of other skills that Ineed to get the most out of them. Instead of whining that the content isnt there, why dont you prepare for its use? Theres no way you have all of your Upgrade skills and two Weapon skills (all of them) to five, so work on that. Otherwise, youre just complaining because you cant have your toy when its not ready.

I'm not concerned with "replay value" in Dust. I am however concerned that a noob screwing up some skills, which we all know will happen, decides to quit instead of spending three months to recover from stupid click.

Making a respec costly, or painful, but not as painful as having to choose between throwing the game in the trash bin versus waiting for 3 months to recover from a mistake is likely to help with player retention -- and I think the consensus is that we need to retain new players if we can.

Also, making it costly, and with a cooldown period, makes it much less likely someone will chase the latest OP fit every time a new build comes out. And, frankly, if they did, I can't say I'd care. It's not like it has any impact on me -- or that I'd even know (except for forum trolling about it).

Your opinion of myopinion being bullshit is just that - an opinion. I want to roll a Crusader suit or even a Sentinel, hell the Commando looks cool too. Im not bitching, wanna know why?

Because Ive still got Engineering 4/5 and a multitude of other skills that Ineed to get the most out of them. Instead of whining that the content isnt there, why dont you prepare for its use? Theres no way you have all of your Upgrade skills and two Weapon skills (all of them) to five, so work on that. Otherwise, youre just complaining because you cant have your toy when its not ready.

Alright listen.. You got your respec, a few of thought the respec idea was stupid/silly post release but we looked past it.. But Im going to get this out on the board..

You cant be serious in asking for -ANOTHER- respec after 1.2, I mean seriously this is a lesson youre going to just have to learn and accept. You made a mistake, and fixed it by going with the flavor ofthe month. Noone forced you to go with what we all knew was going to inevitably get fixed. New armor modules coming out probably wont even touch the whopping issues with Shield vs Armor tanking in infantry considering the Ferroscale - having no speed reductions - will probably get used by shield tankers anyway.

So, no. This player doesnt think you should have your hand held through every update. Just because new materials come out doesnt mean you cansuddenly change your mind on things, nor because it was nerfed when we knew it was going to anyway. You should have tosave up SP for your new toy like the rest of us. I made some stupid decisions (Medium Frame V thinking it affected the Assault bonus ala Eve) but I manned up and moved on.

As much as I give people **** for saying it thisis truly an issue where you should HTFU and be proud of your stupid decisions. Plus its more rewarding when you work for it. This isnt minecraft with hacks, youre in it for the long run kiddo.