1: no.

2: vehicle users are called pilots here. specific pilot names are- tanker, derpship flyer, lolav driver.

get out.


Peace, Godin



EDIT: I noticed that your KEQ, so no wonder you're making requests like this....

Really? Any game with rpg elements I've played have it, so what ones don't?

EVE Online, Dark Souls, Skyrim, Fallout,

I'm thinking maybe most Final Fantasies, but I can't remember if the newest one did or did not let you.

So yea, basically all the big names in RPG, don't let you do it.

Actually in FO: New Vegas you can and the Skyrim: Dragonborne DLC included a patch for respeccing.

Yea, you could respec 1 point for 1 dragon soul with the DLC. We could incorporate that into Dust, for each battle you win, you can unallocate 1 SP. But you lose the ability of the skill if you go under the required points for it.

Interesting idea for winning battles to shift points around. And Laurent's idea is good also...he says "DONE". Dies this mean it's coming?

Why is this concept so hard for CCP to grasp?

Any other game that has RPG elements in it you can respec. ANY!

Of course there usually is a cost; in game money/gold, skill points, real money, items, etc.

So why can't CCP implement something like this? Make it cost a large amount of ISK or 20k of AUR or something.

The current structure makes it very difficult to try new equipment and vehicles. What if I want to try a heavy, a tank, be a pilot? New players that make spec mistakes or want to try other classes, vehicles, etc. will quickly get annoyed by any lack of respecing system and leave. I would think CCP wants to actually keep players.

The current structure makes it very difficult to try new equipment and vehicles. What if I want to try a heavy, a tank, be a pilot? New players that make spec mistakes or want to try other classes, vehicles, etc. will quickly get annoyed by any lack of respecing system and leave. I would think CCP wants to actually keep players.

Why is this concept so hard for CCP to grasp?

Any other game that has RPG elements in it you can respec. ANY!

Of course there usually is a cost; in game money/gold, skill points, real money, items, etc.

So why can't CCP implement something like this? Make it cost a large amount of ISK or 20k of AUR or something.

The current structure makes it very difficult to try new equipment and vehicles. What if I want to try a heavy, a tank, be a pilot? New players that make spec mistakes or want to try other classes, vehicles, etc. will quickly get annoyed by any lack of respecing system and leave. I would think CCP wants to actually keep players.

1 free respec per year. One more you can buy with Aurum.

Done.

1 free respec per year. One more you can buy with Aurum.

Done.

We need one last respec once CCP gets all of the basic racial suits in there, and the weapons sorted and their skills more-or less finalized. That's it though. Never again after, not for ISK, AUR, X amount of time, nothing. The game will never be done, but let's face facts, the game is basically a late-stage beta lacking major chunks of core content. To draw a parallel with EVE, it'd be like the Amarr and Caldari having no frigates available, and the only battleships are Amarr. CCP has to try to balance as they go since they ended the beta way too early, and one final respec once the core skills, suits and weapons are in place is reasonable, and will create more diversity and specialization, not before and never again.

The problem is there is no "everything" in terms of content in an evolving game and the definition of "core" is equally vague. More content will be added throughout the game's lifespan. We will get new suits, vehicles and weapons, each with their own skillsets not just in the next 6-12 months but in five years aswell (for as long as dust exists, really) so "everything" will mean something different every 6 months and some of these additions will become such a fundamental part of the battlefield once they arrive so that we would consider them "core" today if only we knew about them already.

The only possible justification for limited respecs after adding new content that i find actually usefull is "respec for racial symmetry" i.e the notion that any type of gear or niche should be represented in all four races and people should not be penalized for preferring a racial variant that is not yet available. For example, heavy users can opt in to relocate their heavy suit skills to another racial equivalent once it's released.

This should not apply to the release of completely new roles as all players can choose to specialize into that role at the same time, even if it's not their preferred racial variant. It does however apply to any role that gets a racial variant added so once you specced into amarr commando just as everyone else who wanted to play a commando you can have your amarr commando skills changed to your preferred racial variant once. This means that no one is excluded from playing that role from the second it's released and everyone can switch their SP into the preferred race after release so that in effect no one is really penalized in the long run.

The difference to saying "core" stuff is that this always only applies to partially existing roles where some players are able to specialize into their preferred race sooner than others and don't have to to invest the same SP for the same playstile twice.

The problem is that the definition of "basic" is currently way too vague to draw a definite line of when this respec is supposed to happen. Is it after we get racial variants for the roles we have now? When all known but missing roles are finalized? What does "all" even mean within a game that is already planning on adding new content that might not come this or even next year? Respec everyone because eve <-> dust trading including its skillset?

I'll just quote myself from this thread for a proposal that solves this definition problem and can easily be in effect indefinitely without making respecs a commonplace. It has to be said that i am strictly anti respec and that this proposal is not aimed to appease players that would like to have unconditional respecs but rather fix the systemic problem that slow content cycles cause wich lead to the current outcry in favor of unconditional respecs.

We need one last respec once CCP gets all of the basic racial suits in there, and the weapons sorted and their skills more-or less finalized. That's it though. Never again after, not for ISK, AUR, X amount of time, nothing. The game will never be done, but let's face facts, the game is basically a late-stage beta lacking major chunks of core content. To draw a parallel with EVE, it'd be like the Amarr and Caldari having no frigates available, and the only battleships are Amarr. CCP has to try to balance as they go since they ended the beta way too early, and one final respec once the core skills, suits and weapons are in place is reasonable, and will create more diversity and specialization, not before and never again.

we don't. by then you'll be able to run 3 proto suits.

We need one last respec once CCP gets all of the basic racial suits in there, and the weapons sorted and their skills more-or less finalized. That's it though. Never again after, not for ISK, AUR, X amount of time, nothing. The game will never be done, but let's face facts, the game is basically a late-stage beta lacking major chunks of core content. To draw a parallel with EVE, it'd be like the Amarr and Caldari having no frigates available, and the only battleships are Amarr. CCP has to try to balance as they go since they ended the beta way too early, and one final respec once the core skills, suits and weapons are in place is reasonable, and will create more diversity and specialization, not before and never again.

Why is this concept so hard for CCP to grasp?

Any other game that has RPG elements in it you can respec. ANY!

Of course there usually is a cost; in game money/gold, skill points, real money, items, etc.

So why can't CCP implement something like this? Make it cost a large amount of ISK or 20k of AUR or something.

The current structure makes it very difficult to try new equipment and vehicles. What if I want to try a heavy, a tank, be a pilot? New players that make spec mistakes or want to try other classes, vehicles, etc. will quickly get annoyed by any lack of respecing system and leave. I would think CCP wants to actually keep players.

1 free respec per year. One more you can buy with Aurum.

Done.

FYI you can link directly to the post by clicking the post number. I'll link the posts you mentioned here, here, and here to make it easier for anyone interested.

No, just refund the frame that it was missing from (so no medium frame respecs), and weapon roles (there's a lot that need respecing from this side).

I'm highly anti-respec, I'll spare the wall-o-text here but I could support a suit only point refund in the interests of racial distribution and game diversity. Once the initial line of suits is out however, as it is for medium frames now then no more respecs regardless of future new additions to that frame size. Also no respecs for points outside of the suit specifically..

0.02 ISK
Cross

Why is this concept so hard for CCP to grasp?

Any other game that has RPG elements in it you can respec. ANY!

Of course there usually is a cost; in game money/gold, skill points, real money, items, etc.

So why can't CCP implement something like this? Make it cost a large amount of ISK or 20k of AUR or something.

The current structure makes it very difficult to try new equipment and vehicles. What if I want to try a heavy, a tank, be a pilot? New players that make spec mistakes or want to try other classes, vehicles, etc. will quickly get annoyed by any lack of respecing system and leave. I would think CCP wants to actually keep players.