DUST Search - What do you tell non-Dust players about Dust?

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Kane Fyea wrote:

DS 10 wrote:

Kane Fyea wrote:

DS 10 wrote:

When I explain Dust, I normally tell them it's like Halo and Battlefield had a baby. Not completely accurate, but it's a comparison using two very popular games. Then I tell them it's extremely deep with a serious time commitment attached. Oh, and I tell them to watch my New Player's Guide videos before they do anything. (Shameless self-promotion)

I would tell them to make an account for the passive SP then come and play in a month or two because right now this game isn't that great.

Yeah. I normally say to play on one account and let another accrue SP passively. The first account is more of a "trial and error" account to see what role they're interested in. Funny thing is a lot of the new players I've played with really like the game. Veterans are the ones with the issues because they have higher expectations. Most new players see a free game as something that shouldn't be very good at all, and to be honest, Dust really isn't that bad of a game. People are just so immersed into the game's politics and development that any move CCP makes that they don't agree with turns into another reason Dust is a failure in their eyes.

My biggest complaint is the hit detection sometimes. I've missed a lot of charged scrambler shots to bad hit detection. I do believe CCP can fix the problems and make this game awesome though. Otherwise I wouldn't be here.

I asked around and it seems that SCR's have their random bullet spread increased when charged.

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DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 559	Posted - 2013.06.26 04:54:00 - [1] - Quote Tell me, you will recieve -10 ISK for your reply. The proceedings will got to giving young, poor, inner-city Polar Bears ski masks.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2766	Posted - 2013.06.26 04:55:00 - [2] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Tell me, you will recieve -10 ISK for your reply. The proceedings will got to giving young, poor, inner-city Polar Bears ski masks. Don't expect to be good for 2 months.
ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 316	Posted - 2013.06.26 04:56:00 - [3] - Quote I honestly tell them not to play. Because if they do play, they will never come back. Sad but true
Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 88	Posted - 2013.06.26 04:56:00 - [4] - Quote To not waste their time, they're too far behind with SP and will never be worth anything and that their real parents gave them up and they're adopted.
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II 0uter.Heaven League of Infamy 5	Posted - 2013.06.26 04:57:00 - [5] - Quote tell em its a free work in progress fps and they should activate a account now to gain passive sp in case later they wanna play. oh n the mandatory updates dont split and divide the community like DLC and map packs. idk y ccp doesnt use tht in their marketing.
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 38	Posted - 2013.06.26 04:58:00 - [6] - Quote Why would I talk about DUST when I could talk about things of actual consequence?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4081	Posted - 2013.06.26 04:58:00 - [7] - Quote I tell all my friends as well as people I talk to online to either stay away from dust, or make an account and just forget about it till the holidays. Most importantly Imake sure to emphasise NOT to purchase AUR.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 38	Posted - 2013.06.26 05:00:00 - [8] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Tell me, you will recieve -10 ISK for your reply. The proceedings will got to giving young, poor, inner-city Polar Bears ski masks. Don't expect to be good for 2 months. Spot on. This is a odd game it needs to go more towards being a FPS for 6 months (aiming, mechanics, etc fill out existing racial dropsuits) then RPG elements need to be layered in
Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1656	Posted - 2013.06.26 05:04:00 - [9] - Quote I told a couple people that already knew I was playing that the best way to earn WPs was to murder taxi, but I rarely speak about DUST to anyone. Like others I don't see the point in advertising a game before it's out of beta and is fun to play.
Avallo Kantor DUST University Ivy League 108	Posted - 2013.06.26 05:08:00 - [10] - Quote I first ask that if they have a PS 3. I normally don't need a step 2. (seriously though, all the people I'd want in a nice little tight knit squad don't have PS3's, and many don't have Xbox's either)

VinceVon Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.06.28 00:57:00 - [11] - Quote Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year 1080p Ultra settings at Night Intense Open Field Battle 100 Man Infantry Objective Push Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Planetside 2 Machinima Factions Explained Why you should Play Planetside 2 From Vets
Cpl Foster USMC Headshots Inc. 14	Posted - 2013.06.28 01:26:00 - [12] - Quote I told 2 people...they told 1 more each...the 4 of them joined and we were looking forward to rolling together...they didnt make it out of the Academy....so now...I Tell No One....
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 103	Posted - 2013.06.28 01:27:00 - [13] - Quote In a similar issue to the Corporal above me got a couple guys hooked, they got out of academy and started inviting me to other games via PSN whenev they see me on Dust
Yeva Kalsani Reckoners 154	Posted - 2013.06.28 01:29:00 - [14] - Quote "It's a F2P scifi-FPS game" drinks
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 161	Posted - 2013.06.28 01:30:00 - [15] - Quote I say "shut up honey, no I'm not tired I don't want to come to bed, I just had too much coffee today and this is my hobby why can't you understand that why are you yelling at me just leave me alone ** why did have to interrupt me my KDR is fucke... nevermind honey just go back to bed ** I'll talk to you tomorrow no I'm not angry just you know not to interrupt me when I'm..."
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 458	Posted - 2013.06.28 01:41:00 - [16] - Quote I haven't told anyone I know about Dust because in it's current state it is pretty ******. I do believe that CCP can fix it if they get their act together.
Demon Buddah The Phoenix Federation 4	Posted - 2013.06.28 02:51:00 - [17] - Quote I would tell them about the game and that they should play it for more than just one day. My friend did the same thing, played for one day and quit. Told him give it more time and now he says he really likes the game.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 517	Posted - 2013.06.28 02:52:00 - [18] - Quote Stay away
Cass Barr Red Star. EoN. 385	Posted - 2013.06.28 02:59:00 - [19] - Quote Nothing.
Dave Chiller Brotherhood of Glory 0	Posted - 2013.06.28 03:06:00 - [20] - Quote Nothing.

Onesimus Tarsus Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 536	Posted - 2013.06.28 03:17:00 - [21] - Quote It's bad enough you guys know I play this. I don't tell anyone, I blindfold the cat and I check to make sure the door is locked before I play.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 578	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:17:00 - [22] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: I say "shut up honey, no I'm not tired I don't want to come to bed, I just had too much coffee today and this is my hobby why can't you understand that why are you yelling at me just leave me alone ** why did have to interrupt me my KDR is fucke... nevermind honey just go back to bed ** I'll talk to you tomorrow no I'm not angry just you know not to interrupt me when I'm..." C'mon!
DS 10 G I A N T EoN. 471	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:21:00 - [23] - Quote When I explain Dust, I normally tell them it's like Halo and Battlefield had a baby. Not completely accurate, but it's a comparison using two very popular games. Then I tell them it's extremely deep with a serious time commitment attached. Oh, and I tell them to watch my New Player's Guide videos before they do anything. (Shameless self-promotion)
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 465	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:23:00 - [24] - Quote DS 10 wrote: When I explain Dust, I normally tell them it's like Halo and Battlefield had a baby. Not completely accurate, but it's a comparison using two very popular games. Then I tell them it's extremely deep with a serious time commitment attached. Oh, and I tell them to watch my New Player's Guide videos before they do anything. (Shameless self-promotion) I would tell them to make an account for the passive SP then come and play in a month or two because right now this game isn't that great.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 366	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:25:00 - [25] - Quote The truth. Don't bother. All you get is it will be good " SOON " , but not now.
DS 10 G I A N T EoN. 473	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:29:00 - [26] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: DS 10 wrote: When I explain Dust, I normally tell them it's like Halo and Battlefield had a baby. Not completely accurate, but it's a comparison using two very popular games. Then I tell them it's extremely deep with a serious time commitment attached. Oh, and I tell them to watch my New Player's Guide videos before they do anything. (Shameless self-promotion) I would tell them to make an account for the passive SP then come and play in a month or two because right now this game isn't that great. Yeah. I normally say to play on one account and let another accrue SP passively. The first account is more of a "trial and error" account to see what role they're interested in. Funny thing is a lot of the new players I've played with really like the game. Veterans are the ones with the issues because they have higher expectations. Most new players see a free game as something that shouldn't be very good at all, and to be honest, Dust really isn't that bad of a game. People are just so immersed into the game's politics and development that any move CCP makes that they don't agree with turns into another reason Dust is a failure in their eyes.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 578	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:31:00 - [27] - Quote DS 10 wrote: When I explain Dust, I normally tell them it's like Halo and Battlefield had a baby. Not completely accurate, but it's a comparison using two very popular games. Then I tell them it's extremely deep with a serious time commitment attached. Oh, and I tell them to watch my New Player's Guide videos before they do anything. (Shameless self-promotion) Damn! You'd be good at selling a Pyramid Scheme. You had me going and I've been playing since open-beta
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 467	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:31:00 - [28] - Quote DS 10 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: DS 10 wrote: When I explain Dust, I normally tell them it's like Halo and Battlefield had a baby. Not completely accurate, but it's a comparison using two very popular games. Then I tell them it's extremely deep with a serious time commitment attached. Oh, and I tell them to watch my New Player's Guide videos before they do anything. (Shameless self-promotion) I would tell them to make an account for the passive SP then come and play in a month or two because right now this game isn't that great. Yeah. I normally say to play on one account and let another accrue SP passively. The first account is more of a "trial and error" account to see what role they're interested in. Funny thing is a lot of the new players I've played with really like the game. Veterans are the ones with the issues because they have higher expectations. Most new players see a free game as something that shouldn't be very good at all, and to be honest, Dust really isn't that bad of a game. People are just so immersed into the game's politics and development that any move CCP makes that they don't agree with turns into another reason Dust is a failure in their eyes. My biggest complaint is the hit detection sometimes. I've missed a lot of charged scrambler shots to bad hit detection. I do believe CCP can fix the problems and make this game awesome though. Otherwise I wouldn't be here.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 579	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:40:00 - [29] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: DS 10 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: DS 10 wrote: When I explain Dust, I normally tell them it's like Halo and Battlefield had a baby. Not completely accurate, but it's a comparison using two very popular games. Then I tell them it's extremely deep with a serious time commitment attached. Oh, and I tell them to watch my New Player's Guide videos before they do anything. (Shameless self-promotion) I would tell them to make an account for the passive SP then come and play in a month or two because right now this game isn't that great. Yeah. I normally say to play on one account and let another accrue SP passively. The first account is more of a "trial and error" account to see what role they're interested in. Funny thing is a lot of the new players I've played with really like the game. Veterans are the ones with the issues because they have higher expectations. Most new players see a free game as something that shouldn't be very good at all, and to be honest, Dust really isn't that bad of a game. People are just so immersed into the game's politics and development that any move CCP makes that they don't agree with turns into another reason Dust is a failure in their eyes. My biggest complaint is the hit detection sometimes. I've missed a lot of charged scrambler shots to bad hit detection. I do believe CCP can fix the problems and make this game awesome though. Otherwise I wouldn't be here. I asked around and it seems that SCR's have their random bullet spread increased when charged.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 467	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:42:00 - [30] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: DS 10 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: DS 10 wrote: When I explain Dust, I normally tell them it's like Halo and Battlefield had a baby. Not completely accurate, but it's a comparison using two very popular games. Then I tell them it's extremely deep with a serious time commitment attached. Oh, and I tell them to watch my New Player's Guide videos before they do anything. (Shameless self-promotion) I would tell them to make an account for the passive SP then come and play in a month or two because right now this game isn't that great. Yeah. I normally say to play on one account and let another accrue SP passively. The first account is more of a "trial and error" account to see what role they're interested in. Funny thing is a lot of the new players I've played with really like the game. Veterans are the ones with the issues because they have higher expectations. Most new players see a free game as something that shouldn't be very good at all, and to be honest, Dust really isn't that bad of a game. People are just so immersed into the game's politics and development that any move CCP makes that they don't agree with turns into another reason Dust is a failure in their eyes. My biggest complaint is the hit detection sometimes. I've missed a lot of charged scrambler shots to bad hit detection. I do believe CCP can fix the problems and make this game awesome though. Otherwise I wouldn't be here. I asked around and it seems that SCR's have their random bullet spread increased when charged. Wait what there's random bullet spread! That needs to be removed. No shooter should have random bullet spread. I believe that's one of the reasons MAG failed. Seriously I've been here for a year and have never experienced random bullet spread on any weapon.

CuuCH Crusher Commando Perkone Caldari State 59	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:46:00 - [31] - Quote I tell them don't get discouraged if you lose at first. It takes time to make a good character. I also tell them to do their homework. Read though all tutorials and come to forum if you have any questions.
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 162	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:57:00 - [32] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: I say "shut up honey, no I'm not tired I don't want to come to bed, I just had too much coffee today and this is my hobby why can't you understand that why are you yelling at me just leave me alone ** why did have to interrupt me my KDR is fucke... nevermind honey just go back to bed ** I'll talk to you tomorrow no I'm not angry just you know not to interrupt me when I'm..." C'mon! LOL
Novawolf McDustingham The514th The Official Mintchip Fanclub 310	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:58:00 - [33] - Quote WIP
clone casul Super Smash Corp. 3	Posted - 2013.06.28 06:41:00 - [34] - Quote I would tell everyone that this game is cancer and disappointment.
KingBabar NorwegianWood 873	Posted - 2013.06.28 06:51:00 - [35] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geHLdg_VNww
Dust Project 514 Dust Evo 514 48	Posted - 2013.06.28 06:59:00 - [36] - Quote That is it is free and they should expect the same amount of quality from it as other free things.
Karl Koekwaus Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 107	Posted - 2013.06.28 07:54:00 - [37] - Quote I tell them to try it, since it's free. Then they laugh, because they have the Xbox360s
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 69	Posted - 2013.06.28 08:02:00 - [38] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: I honestly tell them not to play. Because if they do play, they will never come back. Sad but true This ^, most of my gamers friends will leave just because the aiming, never mind everything else.
Duncan Valorius Haters United 4	Posted - 2013.06.28 08:39:00 - [39] - Quote Honestly, I don-¦t talk about Dust....yet. I know that if I start selling the concept of Dust to them now, they will start the game and leave very dissapointed a few rounds later. This is why I will wait til they release patch 1.3 at least. People who grew up playing Battlefield 1(942), 2 and 3 are not going to be blown away by Dust in its 1.1 state. The free 2 play argument is not relevant because most of them already own multiple FPS with online modes. It-¦s not about the cost, its about the overall quality.
hooc roht Deep Space Republic 132	Posted - 2013.06.28 09:00:00 - [40] - Quote Twitch high health (not hardcore) bunny hopping lobby shooter and players who have played for longer have more health and cause more damage regardless of actual skill with all sniper maps....and bullets evaporate so despite the big maps it is all CQC.

SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2823	Posted - 2013.06.28 09:06:00 - [41] - Quote hooc roht wrote: Twitch high health (not hardcore) bunny hopping lobby shooter and players who have played for longer have more health and cause more damage regardless of actual skill with all sniper maps....and bullets evaporate so despite the big maps it is all CQC. Translation: QQ
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 118	Posted - 2013.06.28 09:15:00 - [42] - Quote "If halo and battlefield had a baby..." "it's a piece of ...you know what you play it and find out for yourself" "it's good for everyone already invested into it"
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2039	Posted - 2013.06.28 09:21:00 - [43] - Quote I tell them how much fun it is to run a jetpack while capturing the biolabs.
Janos Bornemissza Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.28 09:41:00 - [44] - Quote It's an OK space shooter that has potential to be really good later on down the road. It has slight RPG elements like trait trees that let you specialize into certain equipment or roles, so there is a longer arc than just battle after battle. It is connected to a really deep online world that is affected by PC gamers. When starting out, expect to be cannon fodder and realize that you have this leisure because your suits are more or less free. While you obviously want to avoid death for the sake of your team, don't sweat dying a lot early on. Gameplay is meh at this point, with lots of adjustments happening. Gunplay in particular is meh, and while this may seem like an obvious dealbreaker for a shooter, the redeeming qualities may or may not make it worth it to you. The price is right, so if you have the HD space to spare, may as well download it and start accruing SP. If you just can't get past the gameplay now, you'll be in place to jump in later if things get tweaked more to your liking.
dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 117	Posted - 2013.06.28 10:14:00 - [45] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: I say "shut up honey, no I'm not tired I don't want to come to bed, I just had too much coffee today and this is my hobby why can't you understand that why are you yelling at me just leave me alone ** why did have to interrupt me my KDR is fucke... nevermind honey just go back to bed ** I'll talk to you tomorrow no I'm not angry just you know not to interrupt me when I'm..." Story of my life, especially since I'm in the GMT+8 timezone
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 73	Posted - 2013.06.28 10:59:00 - [46] - Quote Id tell them to go play Mario Kart instead as it is a more complete game than this right now.
Zero Ayame Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.06.28 11:05:00 - [47] - Quote I'd tell them that if they want t a breathe of fresh air that reminds them of 'Star Wars Battle Front' Meets 'Halo', I point them to this. I don't have a lot of ideas as to how I'll progress much without AUR, but I think the game has a lot of potential and can be a great place for friends to hang out and be casual gamers and perhaps even serious as time goes on and they gain level in their corporation. Basically, give it a shot and see if you like it. And perhaps don't get deterred by battle you don't win xD We all have our bad gaming days lol
2100 Angels The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 145	Posted - 2013.06.28 11:10:00 - [48] - Quote While i enjoy this game, I don't mention it to my friends. They're simpletons and easily frustrated by things they aren't immediately good at, or can pick up quickly. I worry that if i were to recommend it to them in its current state, they would log in, get confused by the menus, play for a few hours, get killed a bunch of times then quit never to play again. I feel as though I wouldn't be presenting the best version of the dust experience, and so I hold off hope for the future and improvements in the noob experience
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 240	Posted - 2013.06.28 11:19:00 - [49] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: I tell them how much fun it is to run a jetpack while capturing the biolabs.
Haron Vathek Urban Mining Corp Gentlemen's.Club 12	Posted - 2013.06.28 13:14:00 - [50] - Quote I tell them it is a game with great potential, but is not what you would expect from a newly released game, even if it is f2p. (especially with a beta as long as Dust had) So far 2 of my friends have tried it, but unfortunately I am the only one still playing from time to time. - Haron Vathek

KING SALASI MAJOR DISTRIBUTION 76	Posted - 2013.06.28 13:19:00 - [51] - Quote I tell people the game is still in beta, wait until next year to play it if you don't get a PS4 by then. I'm pre ordering my PS4 this week can't wait. I don't see this game improving anytime soon(tm).
Recognizer XIII Kinsho Swords Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.06.28 13:32:00 - [52] - Quote Don't waste your time, it'll take you 6 months to even be remotely competitive and whilst your trying to get sp to be any good the vets will still be gaining sp so you will just end up having 5mil sp and still being no good ...and if you make a single mistake in spec into skills the sp is basically lost because you will never be able to respec and get that sp back ... you basically have the option of the 4 starter militia classes to play them and dont use any sp .. not a single 1 because they nerf classes and add new ones and if you want to try something out your basically stuck with it if you dont like it ... you'll constantly be up against proto squads so will basically die constantly and lose constantly because the matchmaking is appalling (I never said i was any good but even if i was good it wouldn;t make the slightest bit of difference because my gear is weak in comparison to theirs .. skill may keep you alive longer but death is inevitable if your outgeared) Its really really poor for new players .. probably the most poor game for new players to a game there has ever been on the ps3 obviously that's open for debate but you'll have to scrape the bottom of a barrel to find it ... game is fun if you've been playing for a year although it gets repetetive but sadly if they dont fix the initial sp system out it will die a very painful death .. they should make the 1st 5mil sp gain faster and then slow it down gradually after that eg if you have 8 mil sp by the time you get to 9m ppl will have gone from 500k-5m .. that would balance the game dramatically .. and then switch to the current sytem after 5m (just like lvling up on an RPG let ppl get to a competetive lvl fairly quickly and then make it hard ater that) having it the same speed throughout means new players don;t have a prayer .. ofc with my suggestion the vets would still have an advanatage but it wouldn;t be to the ridiculous extent that it is now PS I know someone will say 'you should've started playing earlier' but thats stupid logic .. you started earlier so no 1 who starts after should be able to kill you ?
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 682	Posted - 2013.06.28 13:35:00 - [53] - Quote destroy your ps3 and run, run far far way to xbox and never ever look back... they are zombies? is that it?
Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 233	Posted - 2013.06.28 14:18:00 - [54] - Quote I've converted three friends from COD, patients, time and the understanding your never going to be the 'best' when you start this mindset is imperitive. You should be fuking rejoicing everytime you drop a proto suit with millitia gear, i let the boys know this. The problem you guys who fail have? No respect. Ofcoarse the guys who have been playing longer should have the upper hand. Should they be playing against players who are 2-3 days old? LOL NO but thats matchmakings fault not our own.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 603	Posted - 2013.06.28 14:23:00 - [55] - Quote o/ Guinevere, need to squad up sometime its been a while... I brought a few friends to the game and they're all still here somewhere lol, i had to guide them through all the stuff but they're loving the game...
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 48	Posted - 2013.06.28 15:50:00 - [56] - Quote I tell them it's a cool game and I can coach them in the beginning. This recruiter program looks cool.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 110	Posted - 2013.06.28 15:53:00 - [57] - Quote Nothing anymore. Hopefully that changes after 1.3
Aisha Ctarl The Generals EoN. 360	Posted - 2013.06.28 16:21:00 - [58] - Quote That it doesn't quite look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZPCiqBLPM8 yet, but it's so so.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 581	Posted - 2013.06.28 17:12:00 - [59] - Quote Dust Project 514 wrote: That is it is free and they should expect the same amount of quality from it as other free things. Good answer! I should start using that, says so much with so little!


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