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TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES EoN. 71	Posted - 2013.06.24 23:29:00 - [1] - Quote I believe with the all the ways vehicles can be destroyed it is time the missiles return to do what they were best at, suppressing and making the enemy scramble. A buff in the splash radius is all it really needs, around 5-7 meters.
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 180	Posted - 2013.06.25 00:10:00 - [2] - Quote Agreed.
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 169	Posted - 2013.06.25 02:49:00 - [3] - Quote I think all missiles need is to be able to aim straight, or at least not fire in random directions.
Spycrab Potato The Red Guards EoN. 34	Posted - 2013.06.25 02:52:00 - [4] - Quote Doyle Reese wrote: I think all missiles need is to be able to aim straight, or at least not fire in random directions. Yes, it's quite annoying when I shoot my missile turret 15 meters from the target and it goes 10 meters to the right. -.-
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation 367	Posted - 2013.06.25 02:55:00 - [5] - Quote I don't really want to go back to the "missiles are the only small turret worth using" thing. Not that buffing any or all turrets is really going to fix the problems. The problem is that there's no role for vehicles to fill right now. All our maps are essentially infantry playgrounds, there's no reason to use armored vehicles or air support in tiny areas like these.
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1063	Posted - 2013.06.25 04:19:00 - [6] - Quote @ OP : You realize that they never really changed the damage, all they ever did to nerf missiles was take away practically all of their splash? Buffing their splash without reducing damage (Which needs to be reduced TBH) will basically just make them even more hilariously OP than they were & still are (If you get a chance to use missiles with a pilot who doesn't suck, dropships + missiles = hilarious OHK's errywhere)
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 261	Posted - 2013.06.25 04:35:00 - [7] - Quote Ignoring the title name for now While the missiles need a splash radius increase without first tweaking damage this would quickly bring a flood o assault player QQ threads, and while I would love to see this happen it's not likely
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 46	Posted - 2013.06.25 05:19:00 - [8] - Quote I would be happy if missile turrets had the ability to lock on to vehicles with around 5% of the swarm launcher's tracking abilities. Missile turrets are Caldari tech after all; not primitive Minmatar duct-taped sticks and stones.
Stands Alone Ultramarine Corp 26	Posted - 2013.06.25 05:29:00 - [9] - Quote missiles are pre-new eden tech... anyways i think that they should fix the aim of ground vehicle mounted missile and railgun turrets first. i can make many kills with a missile turret on the back of an LAV, when its aim isnt 15 degrees off. although this doesnt get my +1, i do however agree that the aim needs to be fixed, then tackle the other stuff after, as fixing the aim may be enough
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 46	Posted - 2013.06.25 06:01:00 - [10] - Quote "Even if the Caldari have not engaged in war for many decades, they still strive to be at the cutting edge of military technology and their vessels, weapons and fighting methods are inferior to none but the enigmatic Jove." -EVElopedia All missile turrets in the current iteration of the game are Caldari. Ergo, according to lore, Caldari missiles are better than Minmatar missles. But for the sake of balance they're really not.

darkiller240 INGLORIOUS-INQUISITION 18	Posted - 2013.06.25 06:02:00 - [11] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: I believe with the all the ways vehicles can be destroyed it is time the missiles return to do what they were best at, suppressing and making the enemy scramble. A buff in the splash radius is all it really needs, around 5-7 meters. +1
Stands Alone Ultramarine Corp 27	Posted - 2013.06.25 06:32:00 - [12] - Quote medomai grey wrote: "Even if the Caldari have not engaged in war for many decades, they still strive to be at the cutting edge of military technology and their vessels, weapons and fighting methods are inferior to none but the enigmatic Jove." -EVElopedia All missile turrets in the current iteration of the game are Caldari. Ergo, according to lore, Caldari missiles are better than Minmatar missles. But for the sake of balance they're really not. it was a sarcastic joke dude heh
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 46	Posted - 2013.06.25 06:57:00 - [13] - Quote Stands Alone wrote: medomai grey wrote: "Even if the Caldari have not engaged in war for many decades, they still strive to be at the cutting edge of military technology and their vessels, weapons and fighting methods are inferior to none but the enigmatic Jove." -EVElopedia All missile turrets in the current iteration of the game are Caldari. Ergo, according to lore, Caldari missiles are better than Minmatar missles. But for the sake of balance they're really not. it was a sarcastic joke dude heh It's ok. I just enjoy reminding you that you that Minmatar < Caldari. :p
Judge Rhadamanthus Kapow Heavy Industries 177	Posted - 2013.06.25 07:42:00 - [14] - Quote Agreed. From a Drop ship, which has small turrets only, the damage is not enough. With the range of swarms and Forgeguns me or my gunners often get one shot before we die to the next hit or are knocked all over the place and are unable to aim properly. We need that first shot to count. It should one shot any ground troop hit directly and OHK kill all but a heavy within 5 metres.
First Prophet Jaguar Empire 192	Posted - 2013.06.25 08:23:00 - [15] - Quote Small missile turrets wouldn't be so bad if they shot straight. I'd say make them shoot straight first, then we'll see about the splash.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 355	Posted - 2013.06.25 08:32:00 - [16] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: I believe with the all the ways vehicles can be destroyed it is time the missiles return to do what they were best at, suppressing and making the enemy scramble. A buff in the splash radius is all it really needs, around 5-7 meters. IMO missiles needs their old splash radius back but the splash damage should be lowered. The only problem with missiles have always been the one hit kill splash damage, the radius was fine.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 323	Posted - 2013.06.25 09:59:00 - [17] - Quote In my oppinion I think large missile turrets on tanks are almost perfect (appart from the cycled) all id like to see tweeked is there range, an extra 50-100m would make them perfect. As the frags splash is ok and well worth the trade off for direct dammage. The accelerated do their job quite nicely. The cycled are a joke with only a .6 second reductuon in fire rate is not worth the lesser dammage. As I said all the largw missiles need is an increase in range.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 744	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:12:00 - [18] - Quote Small turrets certainly need some love. The dispersion has been toned down since Chromosome but is still too high. You should always be able to hit your target with at least splash damage; so if splash radius is 5m, make max dispersion 5m. However, small rails need much more attention than any other.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 323	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:38:00 - [19] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Small turrets certainly need some love. The dispersion has been toned down since Chromosome but is still too high. You should always be able to hit your target with at least splash damage; so if splash radius is 5m, make max dispersion 5m. However, small rails need much more attention than any other. Oh god yes the small rails need attention . I have a sniper llav fit thats ok I have the proto rail turret installd (was testing it) it is obviously better than it was in chromosome but it still needs dire attention.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1759	Posted - 2013.06.25 15:10:00 - [20] - Quote medomai grey wrote: "Even if the Caldari have not engaged in war for many decades, they still strive to be at the cutting edge of military technology and their vessels, weapons and fighting methods are inferior to none but the enigmatic Jove." -EVElopedia All missile turrets in the current iteration of the game are Caldari. Ergo, according to lore, Caldari missiles are better than Minmatar missles. But for the sake of balance they're really not. Funny, because minmatar stuff is superior to caldari in function, without all the use of fancy technology

DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES EoN. 36	Posted - 2013.06.25 16:21:00 - [21] - Quote I thought the issues with missiles was that their blast radius was spherical, but a two dimensional circle? did they fix that issue and now we still don't have effective blast radius'? I'd suggest incremental increases to test this out, but increasing blast radius on missile turrets by one meter across the board. see how that works first
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES EoN. 74	Posted - 2013.06.25 16:25:00 - [22] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: @ OP : You realize that they never really changed the damage, all they ever did to nerf missiles was take away practically all of their splash? Buffing their splash without reducing damage (Which needs to be reduced TBH) will basically just make them even more hilariously OP than they were & still are (If you get a chance to use missiles with a pilot who doesn't suck, dropships + missiles = hilarious OHK's errywhere) i do realize that that is why i said all they need is a buff to their splash radius. All it takes is for someone to bring out an advanced swarm lock on to my dropship keep firing and bunny hop out of my missile's radius. I usually have to run away.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 46	Posted - 2013.06.25 16:28:00 - [23] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: medomai grey wrote: "Even if the Caldari have not engaged in war for many decades, they still strive to be at the cutting edge of military technology and their vessels, weapons and fighting methods are inferior to none but the enigmatic Jove." -EVElopedia All missile turrets in the current iteration of the game are Caldari. Ergo, according to lore, Caldari missiles are better than Minmatar missles. But for the sake of balance they're really not. Funny, because minmatar stuff is superior to caldari in function, without all the use of fancy technology Winmatar duct-tape wins again huh?
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 174	Posted - 2013.06.25 16:39:00 - [24] - Quote Small Missile Turrets right now is weird to me, I know you have to lead it (if the vehicle is going forward, your reticle should be to the right of the target), but it still does weird stuff sometimes, I think it's because it's based on vehicle speed AND turret turn speed. Adjusting aim due to vehicle speed is okay, that can stay, but the turret turn speed is weird to me, maybe I'm just not used to it
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES EoN. 74	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:16:00 - [25] - Quote May a dev please tell us what the plans are for the missile turrets? because right now they are pretty worthless.
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 96	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:27:00 - [26] - Quote splash is def all they need to be more effective not damage. (i would like to see fragmented smalls get higher splash/reduced direct damage rather than more splash radius and less splash damage) [also i know comparing dust to weapons today is taboo but a simple frag grenade today has a kill radius of 5m much less a missile and its only the size of an apple]
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2928	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:29:00 - [27] - Quote I agree. As a ninja knifer, I find it laughable that I am often dancing on top of the missile tanks taunting the driver and only thing he do about it is get out of his tank and face me like a man. There was only one super rare occasion in which a missile tank killed me but that was pure luck.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES EoN. 76	Posted - 2013.06.28 15:37:00 - [28] - Quote who knows what the plan is?
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 120	Posted - 2013.06.28 15:44:00 - [29] - Quote If CCp told you they would have to Ban you
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES EoN. 76	Posted - 2013.06.29 00:00:00 - [30] - Quote guess we'll have to wait.



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