500 direct damage on the flaylock?
Are you completely insane?

The only balancing it needs is bringing PG usage in line with other sidearms. Its drawbacks (range, small clip size, only 3 shots, slow flight time of bullets, not all that effective against shields, ...) make up for its advantages. If you compare DPS with other sidearms, you'll notice it's already really well balanced. High damage per shot, but due to more frequent reloading, its DPS is in line with other sidearms....which is something a lot of whiners conveniently forget

hardly, scrambler pistol requires perfect accurate to generate any real DPS, smg requires bullets to hit, which isnt the guns style, nova knifes require sleeping enemies, flaylock requires a shot in the general direct.

I'd like to see it be more like a sawnoff shotgun, 1 very powerful shot, effective within say 10m, but then a reload.

it does need additional pg requirements to bring it in line, i agree with that

hardly, scrambler pistol requires perfect accurate to generate any real DPS, smg requires bullets to hit, which isnt the guns style, nova knifes require sleeping enemies, flaylock requires a shot in the general direct.

I'd like to see it be more like a sawnoff shotgun, 1 very powerful shot, effective within say 10m, but then a reload.

It requires more than "a shot in the general direction". Do you understand splash damage? also scrambler pistol is not hard to use effectively at all.

But it still is too easy to get a kill just by shooting the feet.

The Flaylock is the silliest weapon in the game at the moment. No question about it.

hardly, scrambler pistol requires perfect accurate to generate any real DPS, smg requires bullets to hit, which isnt the guns style, nova knifes require sleeping enemies, flaylock requires a shot in the general direct.

I'd like to see it be more like a sawnoff shotgun, 1 very powerful shot, effective within say 10m, but then a reload.

But it still is too easy to get a kill just by shooting the feet.

Scrambler pistols are easy to use effectively

So ok, The flaylock some love it some hate it.

I personally find that it needs a rebalance just a slight one though.

So heres my experience with it, and keep in mind i'm a heavy, i use it as my sidearm. It's pretty easy to get kills with it, too easy some would say, and this is because the splash damage is just too high. When compared to a Mass Driver or missle turrets there better then both.

I suggest increasing direct hit damage to around 500 maybe? Rough guess, thats proto level btw. Reducing splash damage by 30-50%

Increasing CPU and PG requirements to make it in line with SMG's and Scrambler pistols. I don't know if the extra 25% splash makes it really good or not, i only have ADV level currently

Heres how these weapons should work

Flaylock very high direct hit damage low splash damage. Medium splash radius

Mass Driver medium direct hit damage medium splash damage Huge splash radius, it is a support weapon

Missle turrets medium direct damage, medium-high splash damage medium-high splash radius.


Feel free to share your own balancing opinions
Thanks
-N1ck

The fact that a militia shotgun does the same thing for (mostly) free is clearly lost on people hating on the flaylock.

Those are the people who've never actually fired it of course.

P.S. Militia shotty's get 6 rounds to OHKO you with. = )

...but by all means, remove the flaylock and give my my SP back. When I'm shooting your face off with a protopistol, do the same with that.

I'll move to the SMG... eventually we won't have sidearms.

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Scrap splash damage all together

even with prof 3 and a proto flaylock i can't drop the shields on most caldari assault. even militia gear takes two shots, what weapon in the game at proto level takes 2/3rds a magazine to kill a militia suit?

All flaylocks should be 1m blast radius, 2 is pushing it just drop a compact nano hive and se how big 2m is..

Fix hit detection and you can have your meter back.

You do realize how small a meter is right?

Still not big enough to actually HIT until hit detection's fixed. That's why you don't see and std or adv flaylocks.

I think the damage is OK the way it is, but I agree with the rest of the post. RoF also needs to be toned down.

with only 3 shots, rof can stay the same, but make reload time longer

Scrambler pistols are easy to use effectively

Scrambler > Flaylock

Oh and sawed off shotguns have two shots.

And there we have it, the real reason people hate flaylocks, not because they're "too good", but because splash damage = noob tube = no skill weapon

Whah, it's so hard to aim my AR

Says the guy who wants claymores

"My HMG is bad, its the AR users fault"

So you think the Flaylock is on equal terms compared to other side arms in the game or are you here doing what you do best.. Trolling?