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DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3945	Posted - 2013.06.23 02:54:00 - [1] - Quote I haven't been playing too much these days, a few matches here and there rolling solo for the most part. I don't see too many pilots in general these days, but I'm curious; what game type do you prefer when you're actually up in the sky, blasting things away?
EternalRMG ZionTCD 302	Posted - 2013.06.23 02:56:00 - [2] - Quote Domination A lot of people in a small area Fragmented Missile turrets like that
forteXVI 89th Infantry Division 0	Posted - 2013.06.23 03:11:00 - [3] - Quote Dom and Skirmish :P providing air support at an instant and pick ups for objective counter hacks :)
Cody Sietz Tritan's Onslaught 226	Posted - 2013.06.23 03:14:00 - [4] - Quote Without a squad? Ambush. Squad? Dom and skirmish. Sadly, my aim needs work, so I'm more of a distraction/troop transport.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES EoN. 70	Posted - 2013.06.23 18:09:00 - [5] - Quote i will say wait until the guys at ccp learn how to balance stuff before you use this dropship. main reason being you can get one shot by a regular forge gun.
Judge Rhadamanthus Kapow Heavy Industries 169	Posted - 2013.06.23 18:13:00 - [6] - Quote Domination and Ambush. With it's red line rail tanks abusing a poor game mechanic, ground turrets, proto forge with huge range it's hard to stay alive in Skirmish. Even in Ambush and Domination a singe millita forge anywhere on the map means landing at the back and putting it away. I am assuming CCP is deep in the fixes and is keeping it quite because there is no way they really think drop ships are balanced in any metric right now.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 703	Posted - 2013.06.23 18:13:00 - [7] - Quote Domination by far is the best mode for Dropships. Be aware though that once you stay in the air for a long time while pissing the enemy team off everyone and their grandmother will pull out their AA. Of course this only makes it easier for your boys on the ground to take the objective.
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 80	Posted - 2013.06.24 08:44:00 - [8] - Quote I prefer Skirmish. More objectives and avenues of approach for ground troops makes it interesting. There might be miracles such as somebody wanting transportation, too. Domination, on the flip side, dictates only one area of interest with highest concentration of potential AV; red zones are bigger, limiting airspace on already cramped maps even more. Regular Ambush is occasionally fun for thrill-seeking pancake-and-run action and hunting blaster tanks.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2140	Posted - 2013.06.24 09:25:00 - [9] - Quote Domination, in my experience you tend to run into less redline tanks though there are always exceptions, skirmish is good but too many turrets and redline tanks/forge gunners imo. And ambush is terrible due to the lack of safe places to call in a dropship.
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 80	Posted - 2013.06.24 10:41:00 - [10] - Quote gbghg wrote: Domination, in my experience you tend to run into less redline tanks though there are always exceptions, skirmish is good but too many turrets and redline tanks/forge gunners imo. And ambush is terrible due to the lack of safe places to call in a dropship. When I warm up before squadding up, I usually rail snipe in Domination. Most of the infantry and vehicles are congested around one objective, and red line is harder to access for AV other than other rail tanks. Plus, fewer spawn points that are generally situated closer to the hot zone than in Skirmish. From what I could tell, it's the map that dictates the amount of railgun threat. Two out of three variations of both Skim Junction and Iron Delta are suitable for aerial operations, as well as Line Harvest. Manus Flat, Spine Crescent, and Ashland are practically a shooting gallery.

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3976	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:35:00 - [11] - Quote Thank you all, I've got this Gorgon with an afterburner and some plates and no one to crash it into Now I have a better idea of where to look
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 80	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:03:00 - [12] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Thank you all, I've got this Gorgon with an afterburner and some plates and no one to crash it into Now I have a better idea of where to look I won't lie if i tell that you made sure pretty much every specimen of our endangered species on these forums took note of your tactic.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3978	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:16:00 - [13] - Quote Klark Morrigan wrote: I won't lie if i tell that you made sure pretty much every specimen of our endangered species on these forums took note of your tactic. Take all the notes you like, you won't see my fat little bird until it's too late Seriously though, militia vehicles have got to go This is how I cope with forfeiting my pilots license, btw.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 178	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:21:00 - [14] - Quote I do all modes since they all have pros and cons but its been a while since I played, PS3 was unplugged while the update went through. Also I`m not doing pub team support innless its for a coordinated squad so I won`t be triaging random tanks till it pays me the cost when I`m effective.
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 81	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:28:00 - [15] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Take all the notes you like, you won't see my fat little bird until it's too late Seriously though, militia vehicles have got to go This is how I cope with forfeiting my pilots license, btw. That's the point. I always check names before devising my "battle plans", you just won't see me in the air. =) Speaking of which, I cope by shooting dropships down with railguns. As a bonus, I get to ruin RDVs' day.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3979	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:30:00 - [16] - Quote Klark Morrigan wrote: Speaking of which, I cope by shooting dropships down with railguns. As a bonus, I get to ruin RDVs' day. Lmao railguns are the lulz >_< My backup AV is a militia railgun tank lmfao, and my primary AV is a militia forge gun... I'm so ghetto, even online
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 84	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:32:00 - [17] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Lmao railguns are the lulz >_< My backup AV is a militia railgun tank lmfao, and my primary AV is a militia forge gun... Militia tanks are tasty.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3979	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:33:00 - [18] - Quote Klark Morrigan wrote: Militia tanks are tasty. You're more than welcome to come to the red line for it, I still haven't figured out how to drive it over that mystical barrier
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 84	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:34:00 - [19] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Klark Morrigan wrote: Militia tanks are tasty. You're more than welcome to come to the red line for it, I still haven't figured out how to drive it over that mystical barrier That means we'll never see each other.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3979	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:37:00 - [20] - Quote Klark Morrigan wrote: That means we'll never see each other. They need to hurry up and release artillery

gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2142	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:39:00 - [21] - Quote Dust when I start playing again I'll make sure to look out for you, if I see your tank I'll make sure to kamikaze into it.
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 86	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:40:00 - [22] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Klark Morrigan wrote: That means we'll never see each other. They need to hurry up and release artillery Oh boy, that'll be fun. Both teams rush to deploy their artillery first so they can glass the enemy red zone before they do the same. I can't imagine what bomber dropships will turn out to be like, bearing ADS camera in mind.
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 86	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:42:00 - [23] - Quote gbghg wrote: Dust when I start playing again I'll make sure to look out for you, if I see your tank I'll make sure to kamikaze into it. The ways you want to cope with it are up to you, I guess.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3980	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:42:00 - [24] - Quote gbghg wrote: Dust when I start playing again I'll make sure to look out for you, if I see your tank I'll make sure to kamikaze into it. From my testing that actually doesn't do anything anymore You might scratch my shields, maybe. I actually have only called it in once or twice, the militia forge gun has been far more than enough for all but assault dropships, which my Gorgon handles exceptionally well. And the fact that they want to make a bomber variant of the dropship....just....actually say that out loud to yourself..... It hurts the brain. Just make a freaking bomber if you want a bomber >_<
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 86	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:44:00 - [25] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: gbghg wrote: Dust when I start playing again I'll make sure to look out for you, if I see your tank I'll make sure to kamikaze into it. From my testing that actually doesn't do anything anymore You might scratch my shields, maybe. I actually have only called it in once or twice, the militia forge gun has been far more than enough for all but assault dropships, which my Gorgon handles exceptionally well. I've specced into forges along the way, and there are some instances when they are more fun to wield than using rail tanks. Tower defence, for example. Or ambushing tanks that come to assault the red zone.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3980	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:48:00 - [26] - Quote Klark Morrigan wrote: I've specced into forges along the way, and there are some instances when they are more fun to wield than using rail tanks. Tower defence, for example. Or ambushing tanks that come to assault the red zone. I can't buy boosters so I have to be super stingy with my SP, and I'm only 1/5 of the way to prototype commando if it's any good, so I have to keep on saving. My build is built around the fact that it's going to take me a long time to finish it, so as it stands, weaponry level 5 isn't a possibility. The militia forge works just fine.
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 87	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:53:00 - [27] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I can't buy boosters so I have to be super stingy with my SP, and I'm only 1/5 of the way to prototype commando if it's any good, so I have to keep on saving. My build is built around the fact that it's going to take me a long time to finish it, so as it stands, weaponry level 5 isn't a possibility. The militia forge works just fine. I was able to skill into all I wanted to have after the respec, including a basic DPS forge fit, then slowly started to improve it. Had to halt the progress just to stock up on SP, in case Pilot suits are worth it at all. If not I'll just dump it into finalising my infantry AV fit.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1739	Posted - 2013.06.24 16:15:00 - [28] - Quote My corp has had a hell of a time with an assault dropship on the other team. Full methana trying to get away from the damn thing while I'm in the turret firing at it. It chased us half a lap around the map (iron delta, around the north side) before it blew us up. I only managed to down the shields, and it was an armor dropship.
Felix Faraday KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 96	Posted - 2013.06.24 17:14:00 - [29] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: My corp has had a hell of a time with an assault dropship on the other team. Full methana trying to get away from the damn thing while I'm in the turret firing at it. It chased us half a lap around the map (iron delta, around the north side) before it blew us up. I only managed to down the shields, and it was an armor dropship. Such an easy fix for this. Run a MLT Swarm fit while in your tank. Jump out, fire a shot or two at the DS, watch it run away. Watch it blow up as it runs if it's a railtank.
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 88	Posted - 2013.06.24 17:33:00 - [30] - Quote Felix Faraday wrote: Run a MLT Swarm fit while in your tank. Jump out, fire a shot or two at the DS, watch it run away. Watch it blow up as it runs if it's a railtank. The swarm trick didn't work on me, although only used once. A guy hopped out of his rail tank, fired off a volley and tried to recall the tank after an oh-crap moment. Didn't take me much time to recover my aim, but he lost time he could spend just to recall his tank. Burned the tank and shot the operator in the back. Then he came back. This time he just recalled the tank after I opened up on him. I still got to shoot the guy in the back. Forges do a much better job, of course there are downsides.

Felix Faraday KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 96	Posted - 2013.06.24 18:08:00 - [31] - Quote Klark Morrigan wrote: Felix Faraday wrote: Run a MLT Swarm fit while in your tank. Jump out, fire a shot or two at the DS, watch it run away. Watch it blow up as it runs if it's a railtank. The swarm trick didn't work on me, although only used once. A guy hopped out of his rail tank, fired off a volley and tried to recall the tank after an oh-crap moment. Didn't take me much time to recover my aim, but he lost time he could spend just to recall his tank. Burned the tank and shot the operator in the back. Then he came back. This time he just recalled the tank after I opened up on him. I still got to shoot the guy in the back. Forges do a much better job, of course there are downsides. He should have just kept firing. It's pretty hard to maintain aim when getting hit by swarms, they can jump you around quite a bit.
Klark Morrigan Molon Labe. League of Infamy 88	Posted - 2013.06.24 18:18:00 - [32] - Quote Felix Faraday wrote: He should have just kept firing. It's pretty hard to maintain aim when getting hit by swarms, they can jump you around quite a bit. He probably should have, although I would still try to nail him with a missile before bugging out.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2143	Posted - 2013.06.24 23:02:00 - [33] - Quote Yeah I actually winched the first time I read the words bomber dropship, I get that by shoving everything onto dropships you can avoid the bottleneck that is the art department, but this trend is lending less and less credence to the idea that dropships should be the transport aircrafts. If your going to make dropships the do all vehicle... He'll I can't even finish that thought, the introduction of assualt dropships and the stats change of the logi DS show how you can balance dropships into proper tiers, this works perfectly fine in balance to one another, it doesn't work however when you compare them to the weaponry that's out there right now. As it stands dropships stand up perfectly fine to light AV fire, as a medium vehicle light AV is something to be wary off and to respect, but it won't overpower you unless combined with another form of AV fire. This is how it's supposed to work, and it's fine. Heavy AV is built to take on heavy vehicles and to demolish light vehicles and be a huge threat to medium vehicles, again the things are balanced relatively well, far from where it should be, but untill you get to advanced and proto levels it's a fair enough DPS. The problem is we only have a medium aircraft available, a light aircraft should be manuavetable enough to avoid heavy AV fire but weak enough that huge damage should be inflicted if a hit is landed, and light AV should offer the best chances to hit them. A heavy aircraft (such as the RDV's) should have the ability to take multiple heavy hits, but with reduced manuoverablity as a cost, this would mean that while all AV could hit it heavy AV would be the best option for taking it down quickly. Medium aircraft should sit in the middle of this, tank enough that they can stand up to some light AV fire but manoeuvrable enough that it has a chance to avoid heavy AV fire. It's that last bit that's the problem, back in chrome before they needed the handling you had a good hance if you flew well to avoid forge gun fire, and with the chassis mods you could make an extremly untanky but very fast dropship that was a ***** to hit. I'm not saying that it should be taken that far but at the very least handling should shift some way back towards pre uprising days, currently everything bit the ADS flies like such a brick that you might as well be sitting still as far as those shooting at you are concerned. Now after a slight ramble back to my main point. Dropships are being turned into the be all aircraft, and considering how crap they are right now there's just no point, and if by some miracle the bomber dropship turns out not to be a POS you can bet those on the ground will QQ about it. Honestly this is something I've actually noticed, the only time I can begin to talk objectively and not just rage post about dropships is when I'm taking a break from flying, things are just so bad overall the only time I can feel like I can post objectively and get some good ideas out is when I'm not flying, if that doesn't show that something is wrong, wait I'm not even going to bother finishing that sentence, we know something OS wrong, we have told you something is wrong repeatedly, we have even pointed out what the main sticking points are and offered ideas to help fix it, and part from one or two posts (being literal here) we have gotten very little feedback apart from the usual range of promises, the same ones we've been recording from months. We don't need much, just a post or so everynow and then, maybe even an idea or two you guys are bouncing around. We don't need dev blogs or huge posts (though those are nice) we just need to see that you guys are about and listening to the community. Wow, that was way longer and rambled onto topics I didn't know wanted airing.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2143	Posted - 2013.06.24 23:06:00 - [34] - Quote Sorry about the above post, just had stuff that I needed to get off my chest that I didn't know I had, it was also way longer than I expected it to be, and rambled onto things that don't really apply to the current topic. And I also apologise for the Walls of texts, the fact that I'm typing on my iPod mean editing it is a ***** I just can't be bothered to deal with.


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