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fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:31:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Honestly I don't think the devs don't deserve the hate. Whomever laid out the 5/14 deadline does.
Huge mistake... Huge I agree another year in beta wouldn't hurt dust 514, HOWEVER CCP does has its reasons for releasing it officially. Why don't they OPENLY COMMUNICATE about it instead of frustrating the player base?
They will SOON |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
955
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:31:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:RKKR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Just be glad CPM don't have moderator powers I know a select few individuals that another CPM member would erase off the boards. Eeeh? Isn't CPM supposed to represent the community? Don't get me wrong I can imagine that some individuals deserve it...but really a post like this from a CPM member.... I saw some post of you in the Nanite Injector bug thread that DEVs are working on it. I saw you create a thread about plates (while there was already a great armor discussion thread) for a DEV that was on vacation. Now you would like to have moderator powers. Shouldn't you just give the DEVs a hint to take 5min off to make a post on the forums? Shouldn't you just elaborate in the existing thread and take notes to give to the DEV? Shouldn't you just warn the GMs of said individuals? I'm starting to believe you just want to be part of the DEV team instead of CPM. This is what happens when they just pick people from IRC rather than letting the community vote on who we want to be our CPMs And yeah yeah I know we cant do it yet because they dont think we are ready for some reason *Looks at the list of forum topics*
*Looks back at Delta*
Yea, we're not ready. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
631
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:33:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Just be glad CPM don't have moderator powers I know a select few individuals that another CPM member would erase off the boards. Eeeh? Isn't CPM supposed to represent the community? Don't get me wrong I can imagine that some individuals deserve it...but really a post like this from a CPM member.... I saw some post of you in the Nanite Injector bug thread that DEVs are working on it. I saw you create a thread about plates (while there was already a great armor discussion thread) for a DEV that was on vacation. Now you would like to have moderator powers. Shouldn't you just give the DEVs a hint to take 5min off to make a post on the forums? Shouldn't you just elaborate in the existing thread and take notes to give to the DEV? Shouldn't you just warn the GMs of said individuals? I'm starting to believe you just want to be part of the DEV team instead of CPM.
IWS doesn't actually work for CCP so it isn't mandatory that you hate on him, y'know?
At least figure out what he actually said before you mangle it up and find reasons to get upset by the mangling.
No, if devs are busy developing they should not be interrupted every time a cryhard feels they deserve personal attention from them... what a joke! |
Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
290
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:34:00 -
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The beatings will continue until morale improves. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
368
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:34:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Delta 749 wrote:RKKR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Just be glad CPM don't have moderator powers I know a select few individuals that another CPM member would erase off the boards. Eeeh? Isn't CPM supposed to represent the community? Don't get me wrong I can imagine that some individuals deserve it...but really a post like this from a CPM member.... I saw some post of you in the Nanite Injector bug thread that DEVs are working on it. I saw you create a thread about plates (while there was already a great armor discussion thread) for a DEV that was on vacation. Now you would like to have moderator powers. Shouldn't you just give the DEVs a hint to take 5min off to make a post on the forums? Shouldn't you just elaborate in the existing thread and take notes to give to the DEV? Shouldn't you just warn the GMs of said individuals? I'm starting to believe you just want to be part of the DEV team instead of CPM. This is what happens when they just pick people from IRC rather than letting the community vote on who we want to be our CPMs And yeah yeah I know we cant do it yet because they dont think we are ready for some reason *Looks at the list of forum topics* *Looks back at Delta* Yea, we're not ready.
Please explain how we are not ready to vote on a group to represent us and how a majority of threads being displeased with CCP supports that |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5245
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:35:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Just be glad CPM don't have moderator powers I know a select few individuals that another CPM member would erase off the boards. Eeeh? Isn't CPM supposed to represent the community? Don't get me wrong I can imagine that some individuals deserve it...but really a post like this from a CPM member.... I saw some post of you in the Nanite Injector bug thread that DEVs are working on it. I saw you create a thread about plates (while there was already a great armor discussion thread) for a DEV that was on vacation. Now you would like to have moderator powers. Shouldn't you just give the DEVs a hint to take 5min off to make a post on the forums? Shouldn't you just elaborate in the existing thread and take notes to give to the DEV? Shouldn't you just warn the GMs of said individuals? I'm starting to believe you just want to be part of the DEV team instead of CPM.
Just we're players too and some players have their own drama that follows them into the CPM despite best efforts and a big sign saying leave your Drama Lamas at home. |
Sleepy Zan
Shape Entirety
2300
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:36:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Happiness is mandatory, all citizens not showing happiness will report for reeducation and execution
Have a nice day Why would you spend resources to reeducate before you educate. Now coming from experience it is best to execute insubordinance as needed and maintain regular subtle education of your chose of doctrines throughout the populous. |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
146
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:38:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I agree another year in beta wouldn't hurt dust 514, HOWEVER CCP does has its reasons for releasing it officially.
Not asking for what the reasons are specifically, but does this mean that you know something about this that we don't? Again, not prying for information, but if they have reasons aside from "5/14 would be a cool day", that'd be nice to know. Yeah, I have my own theory's as well too. If you have anything you can safely state on the subject, it'd be nice to know it wasn't all about that cute release date.
How about "stroking upper management ego"?
Surely not.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5245
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:41:00 -
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J-Lewis wrote:Cosgar wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I agree another year in beta wouldn't hurt dust 514, HOWEVER CCP does has its reasons for releasing it officially.
Not asking for what the reasons are specifically, but does this mean that you know something about this that we don't? Again, not prying for information, but if they have reasons aside from "5/14 would be a cool day", that'd be nice to know. Yeah, I have my own theory's as well too. If you have anything you can safely state on the subject, it'd be nice to know it wasn't all about that cute release date. How about "stroking upper management ego"? Surely not.
It's a theory on my end as well. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
368
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:42:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Happiness is mandatory, all citizens not showing happiness will report for reeducation and execution
Have a nice day Why would you spend resources to reeducate before you educate? Now coming from experience it is best to execute insubordinance as needed and maintain regular subtle education of your chose of doctrines throughout the populous, only my opinion of course.
When has fascist bureaucracy ever made sense? |
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RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:44:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:RKKR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Just be glad CPM don't have moderator powers I know a select few individuals that another CPM member would erase off the boards. Eeeh? Isn't CPM supposed to represent the community? Don't get me wrong I can imagine that some individuals deserve it...but really a post like this from a CPM member.... I saw some post of you in the Nanite Injector bug thread that DEVs are working on it. I saw you create a thread about plates (while there was already a great armor discussion thread) for a DEV that was on vacation. Now you would like to have moderator powers. Shouldn't you just give the DEVs a hint to take 5min off to make a post on the forums? Shouldn't you just elaborate in the existing thread and take notes to give to the DEV? Shouldn't you just warn the GMs of said individuals? I'm starting to believe you just want to be part of the DEV team instead of CPM. IWS doesn't actually work for CCP so it isn't mandatory that you hate on him, y'know? At least figure out what he actually said before you mangle it up and find reasons to get upset by the mangling. No, if devs are busy developing they should not be interrupted every time a cryhard feels they deserve personal attention from them... what a joke!
Do you see me posting "OMG IWS NEEDS TO BE KICKED FROM CPM!!!1!!"-threads? No I'm not hating, I'm just starting to ask myself some questions...and are we only allowed to hate on CCP? I'm sure IWS can speak for himself so there is no need to white-knight for him.
Obviously I missed the point so why don't you try to explain it to me?
If CCP promises more open communication and keeps asking for feedback...then yes they have to...I'm sure they are having meetings,... and more person than the coding DEVs can post on the forums. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
631
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:47:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Obviously I missed the point so why don't you try to explain it to me?
Okay, perhaps I was being subtle.
Learn to read before you blame people for crap they didn't actually say or do.
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Kinky Burrito
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
23
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:56:00 -
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The best way to fix the forums is fixing the servers so people can actually play the game without getting disconnected every match. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1753
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:01:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:J-Lewis wrote:Cosgar wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I agree another year in beta wouldn't hurt dust 514, HOWEVER CCP does has its reasons for releasing it officially.
Not asking for what the reasons are specifically, but does this mean that you know something about this that we don't? Again, not prying for information, but if they have reasons aside from "5/14 would be a cool day", that'd be nice to know. Yeah, I have my own theory's as well too. If you have anything you can safely state on the subject, it'd be nice to know it wasn't all about that cute release date. How about "stroking upper management ego"? Surely not. It's a theory on my end as well. !!!!! |
Rusty Shaklefurd
Couch Legion
69
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:05:00 -
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Remember that suicide in the hallways is strictly prohibited... |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
147
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:10:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:J-Lewis wrote:How about "stroking upper management ego"? Surely not. It's a theory on my end as well. !!!!!
Pretty close actually. I've been saying it all over the forum, but CCP Shanghai feels like :greedisgood: all over again.
It's just a gut feeling, but that's scary enough in and of itself.
Someone please prove me wrong. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
96
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RKKR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Just be glad CPM don't have moderator powers I know a select few individuals that another CPM member would erase off the boards. Eeeh? Isn't CPM supposed to represent the community? Don't get me wrong I can imagine that some individuals deserve it...but really a post like this from a CPM member.... I saw some post of you in the Nanite Injector bug thread that DEVs are working on it. I saw you create a thread about plates (while there was already a great armor discussion thread) for a DEV that was on vacation. Now you would like to have moderator powers. Shouldn't you just give the DEVs a hint to take 5min off to make a post on the forums? Shouldn't you just elaborate in the existing thread and take notes to give to the DEV? Shouldn't you just warn the GMs of said individuals? I'm starting to believe you just want to be part of the DEV team instead of CPM. Just we're players too and some players have their own drama that follows them into the CPM despite best efforts and a big sign saying leave your Drama Lamas at home. The worst thing is that we're trying to play catch up with the current Eve side CSM. CSM is a culmination of 6 years of work and we're trying to get on their level in 6 months or less and we only been in term for one month so far. You have no idea how massive of an uphill fight this has been, CPM 0 is probably going to be the most challenged CPM on the books.
No I have no idea what kind of work you have to put into the whole CPM-thing, but it probably is something to respect you and all CPM members for...but the main thing I was trying to get across is that I thought that CPM was more for CPM (representing us) VS CPP communication. The thing is that these forums seem to become more of a CPM (representing CCP) VS community communication or atleast that's how I feel.
There has been some major issues with the game and almost none or vague communication about it. Even an official message that CPM and CPP are to busy with fixing stuff (what stuff would be nice),..... at the moment for open communication and how you are going to tackle the communication later on (a estimated datewould be nice) would be even better than just waiting at this point.
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Ignatius Crumwald
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
566
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:17:00 -
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J-Lewis wrote:Cosgar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:J-Lewis wrote:How about "stroking upper management ego"? Surely not. It's a theory on my end as well. !!!!! Pretty close actually. I've been saying it all over the forum, but CCP Shanghai feels like :greedisgood: all over again. It's just a gut feeling, but that's scary enough in and of itself. Someone please prove me wrong.
I don't think it's to that degree just yet, but when the most innovative ideas and features to be added to the game in months are 31 flavors of micro transaction and 5 psn bundles, you have to wonder.
When someone mentioned there was a bundle that came with drop ships I thought it was a joke - I mean it is a joke, but not the kind I thought it was. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1754
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:20:00 -
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Rusty Shaklefurd wrote:Remember that suicide in the hallways is strictly prohibited... These forums are depressing enough to make Paris Jackson finish herself off. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5256
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:12:00 -
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Depends on your view of yourself once you become a CPM. The whole idea of needing a dropship pilot or tank pilot is very silly because there is so much that the CPM doesn't really touch on. Sure in our idle time we help out with the Thread Hunting on possibly missed ideas or concerns (which is why I am beginning to hate bad posters because they're really hurting the game the most as they drown out the real stuff CCP or CPM is after.) and also being well versed in an aspect helps out with certain aspects of feedback but rarely does that expertise needs tapping on less so than the experience and familiarity of the people and the potential responses to changes.
For example one minor small but awesome feature of the 1.2 I have highlighted as probably the best new feature being added in 1.2 has nothing to do with anyone being experts in anything. Yet being players in the game has made all the CPM know how important that feature is.
I mean I would love to update you guys more often but I am restricted to what is or has not been said yet by developers most of the time. All I can do is point out broken and obvious stuff that somehow managed to scrape through the developer's own reading of the forums and they don't miss much which says quite a bit considering how often I trawl through the forums. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
188
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:13:00 -
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ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:Be positive or get locked/banned.
Makes sense to me. Last thing I want to hear is player bitching about the game with no real point. |
Golda Go
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:18:00 -
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lOl I saw that 6 locked threads in page 3. |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Depends on your view of yourself once you become a CPM. The whole idea of needing a dropship pilot or tank pilot is very silly because there is so much that the CPM doesn't really touch on. Sure in our idle time we help out with the Thread Hunting on possibly missed ideas or concerns (which is why I am beginning to hate bad posters because they're really hurting the game the most as they drown out the real stuff CCP or CPM is after.) and also being well versed in an aspect helps out with certain aspects of feedback but rarely does that expertise needs tapping on less so than the experience and familiarity of the people and the potential responses to changes.
For example one minor small but awesome feature of the 1.2 I have highlighted as probably the best new feature being added in 1.2 has nothing to do with anyone being experts in anything. Yet being players in the game has made all the CPM know how important that feature is.
I mean I would love to update you guys more often but I am restricted to what is or has not been said yet by developers most of the time. All I can do is point out broken and obvious stuff that somehow managed to scrape through the developer's own reading of the forums and they don't miss much which says quite a bit considering how often I trawl through the forums.
Instead of trawling through the forums for useful threads, why not encourage more devs to post (and sticky) pre-release feedback threads. Have the devs outline the change they're in charge of, then ask for first glance feedback. Then once it hits the server, iterate if required before moving on.
A test server would be a great tool for this too. |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
183
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:39:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:You have got to be trolling.
Anybody can discuss pretty much anything if they just put a little work into their post.
If I were CCP I'd be busy banning entire PSN accounts -- not because of being threatened but so that people who do actually enjoy the game can do so without being harassed all the time. Cheer up Buttercup.
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Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
183
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:42:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Depends on your view of yourself once you become a CPM. The whole idea of needing a dropship pilot or tank pilot is very silly because there is so much that the CPM doesn't really touch on. Sure in our idle time we help out with the Thread Hunting on possibly missed ideas or concerns (which is why I am beginning to hate bad posters because they're really hurting the game the most as they drown out the real stuff CCP or CPM is after.) and also being well versed in an aspect helps out with certain aspects of feedback but rarely does that expertise needs tapping on less so than the experience and familiarity of the people and the potential responses to changes.
For example one minor small but awesome feature of the 1.2 I have highlighted as probably the best new feature being added in 1.2 has nothing to do with anyone being experts in anything. Yet being players in the game has made all the CPM know how important that feature is.
I mean I would love to update you guys more often but I am restricted to what is or has not been said yet by developers most of the time. All I can do is point out broken and obvious stuff that somehow managed to scrape through the developer's own reading of the forums and they don't miss much which says quite a bit considering how often I trawl through the forums. Honestly I think we need to get the little tiny violin out for you.
Where's the CPM statement saying, "CCP, get your crap sorted"? |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1759
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:43:00 -
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J-Lewis wrote: Instead of trawling through the forums for useful threads, why not encourage more devs to post (and sticky) pre-release feedback threads. Have the devs outline the change they're in charge of, then ask for first glance feedback. Then once it hits the server, iterate if required before moving on.
A test server would be a great tool for this too.
I'm +1ing this so hard right now!
Seriously, if the devs posted some topics in feedback/requests on "I'm currently working on X and would like to see some suggestions on how you think it should operate?" or "It seems that not many players are using Y, what do you think would be a good way to make it more attractive?" Would go a long way. It A) gives us an idea of what they're working on and B) will open up more communication. (Which is seriously lacking as of late) Also, they can filter out all the **** posts within that topic. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5257
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:48:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Depends on your view of yourself once you become a CPM. The whole idea of needing a dropship pilot or tank pilot is very silly because there is so much that the CPM doesn't really touch on. Sure in our idle time we help out with the Thread Hunting on possibly missed ideas or concerns (which is why I am beginning to hate bad posters because they're really hurting the game the most as they drown out the real stuff CCP or CPM is after.) and also being well versed in an aspect helps out with certain aspects of feedback but rarely does that expertise needs tapping on less so than the experience and familiarity of the people and the potential responses to changes.
For example one minor small but awesome feature of the 1.2 I have highlighted as probably the best new feature being added in 1.2 has nothing to do with anyone being experts in anything. Yet being players in the game has made all the CPM know how important that feature is.
I mean I would love to update you guys more often but I am restricted to what is or has not been said yet by developers most of the time. All I can do is point out broken and obvious stuff that somehow managed to scrape through the developer's own reading of the forums and they don't miss much which says quite a bit considering how often I trawl through the forums. Honestly I think we need to get the little tiny violin out for you. Where's the CPM statement saying, "CCP, get your crap sorted"?
Shows you how much you pay attention. Hans already wrote that. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
98
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:49:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Depends on your view of yourself once you become a CPM. The whole idea of needing a dropship pilot or tank pilot is very silly because there is so much that the CPM doesn't really touch on. Sure in our idle time we help out with the Thread Hunting on possibly missed ideas or concerns (which is why I am beginning to hate bad posters because they're really hurting the game the most as they drown out the real stuff CCP or CPM is after.) and also being well versed in an aspect helps out with certain aspects of feedback but rarely does that expertise needs tapping on less so than the experience and familiarity of the people and the potential responses to changes.
For example one minor small but awesome feature of the 1.2 I have highlighted as probably the best new feature being added in 1.2 has nothing to do with anyone being experts in anything. Yet being players in the game has made all the CPM know how important that feature is.
I mean I would love to update you guys more often but I am restricted to what is or has not been said yet by developers most of the time. All I can do is point out broken and obvious stuff that somehow managed to scrape through the developer's own reading of the forums and they don't miss much which says quite a bit considering how often I trawl through the forums.
It's good to hear that the DEVs are not missing much on the forums it just doesn't seem like that when some thread get a DEV response and others threads don't or that a DEVs posts in a thread and doesn't follow up. Anyway to improve this kind of communication from DEVs to the community? I know that the community has to adjust too, but I see the current 'negativty' on the forums more like a warning-sign. I hope I'm not confusing you I'm just rambling atm.
Maybe a rating system for threads is a good idea so you guys can filter out the good stuff more easily? |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
183
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Allah's Snackbar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Depends on your view of yourself once you become a CPM. The whole idea of needing a dropship pilot or tank pilot is very silly because there is so much that the CPM doesn't really touch on. Sure in our idle time we help out with the Thread Hunting on possibly missed ideas or concerns (which is why I am beginning to hate bad posters because they're really hurting the game the most as they drown out the real stuff CCP or CPM is after.) and also being well versed in an aspect helps out with certain aspects of feedback but rarely does that expertise needs tapping on less so than the experience and familiarity of the people and the potential responses to changes.
For example one minor small but awesome feature of the 1.2 I have highlighted as probably the best new feature being added in 1.2 has nothing to do with anyone being experts in anything. Yet being players in the game has made all the CPM know how important that feature is.
I mean I would love to update you guys more often but I am restricted to what is or has not been said yet by developers most of the time. All I can do is point out broken and obvious stuff that somehow managed to scrape through the developer's own reading of the forums and they don't miss much which says quite a bit considering how often I trawl through the forums. Honestly I think we need to get the little tiny violin out for you. Where's the CPM statement saying, "CCP, get your crap sorted"? Shows you how much you pay attention. CPM Hans already wrote that. and like everything else just because we write a small 3 paragraph statement does not magically change anything overnight. And where is this buried away?
You might think in this forum maybe? In a sticky or something? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5258
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:55:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Depends on your view of yourself once you become a CPM. The whole idea of needing a dropship pilot or tank pilot is very silly because there is so much that the CPM doesn't really touch on. Sure in our idle time we help out with the Thread Hunting on possibly missed ideas or concerns (which is why I am beginning to hate bad posters because they're really hurting the game the most as they drown out the real stuff CCP or CPM is after.) and also being well versed in an aspect helps out with certain aspects of feedback but rarely does that expertise needs tapping on less so than the experience and familiarity of the people and the potential responses to changes.
For example one minor small but awesome feature of the 1.2 I have highlighted as probably the best new feature being added in 1.2 has nothing to do with anyone being experts in anything. Yet being players in the game has made all the CPM know how important that feature is.
I mean I would love to update you guys more often but I am restricted to what is or has not been said yet by developers most of the time. All I can do is point out broken and obvious stuff that somehow managed to scrape through the developer's own reading of the forums and they don't miss much which says quite a bit considering how often I trawl through the forums. It's good to hear that the DEVs are not missing much on the forums it just doesn't seem like that when some thread get a DEV response and others threads don't or that a DEVs posts in a thread and doesn't follow up. Anyway to improve this kind of communication from DEVs to the community? I know that the community has to adjust too, but I see the current 'negativty' on the forums more like a warning-sign. I hope I'm not confusing you I'm just rambling atm. Maybe a rating system for threads is a good idea so you guys can filter out the good stuff more easily?
Well the Developers are people as well, there are a few devs not well versed in forum posting similar to how there are a few members not good at it either. It's not a nice place most of the time and there are a few scared of you guys because of the hostilities being passed around, which is the ultimate reason why super negative posts are bad they chase developers away from responding in the first place. I am not saying you are not allowed to criticize the game but the more you guys sharpen the complaints like a spear tip the less the devs want to poke that.
There are some developers who are better versed in talking with the community such as CCP Logic Loop would be the most recent example he went into the nitty gritty of why the things they are on the maps and why certain things cannot work yet and what is being worked on.
There are a few that are genuinely busy and would love to post on the forums but things are more pressing than reading forums.
While the CPM is trying to encourage the devs to open up more, I really need you guys to not slam the door on their faces if/when they do. |
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