DUST Search - Do you have faith in Dust?

Rogue Saint wrote:

Yeva Kalsani wrote:

On the fence, because: it has potential. But the rate at which it's being developed towards that potential is ridiculously slow. I don't care about EVE taking ten years to become great by comparisonGÇöthat's not a good track record to be proud of. All it shows is tenacity, not quality development. And if this game was supposed to advertise EVE to new players, it totally dropped the ball. At least for me: Slow-as-hell character advancement, tedious grinding, meta-game shenanigans, subscription fees, and development taking so long that you could leave for a year and come back to hardly any changes... after DUST, you couldn't get me to touch EVE with a ten-foot-pole unless you paid me money to play it.

EVE didn't take 10 years to become great, its not like all of a sudden EVE is awesome, its been a natural, gradual progression to what it is today and baring a few faux pas releases its been awesome from day one.

Clearly you're one of those that wants everything now so you can move on to the next game, EVE/DUST isn't for you, move along.

As for the OP. Yes I have faith, yes I'm a CCP fan boi, they do things differently, which set them apart from the rest of the developers chugging out releases and DLC's just for profitz. The only other developer I can compare them to is EGOSoft, who also listen to their player base to make their singular product better and better.

For those that have lost faith why the hell are you still here then? I've read your reasons, but you still persist to comment here and QQ. "I just login to perform corp duties" lmfao.

As for PS4, won't be for at least 2 years IMO.

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Acturus Galaxy Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 54	Posted - 2013.06.12 05:40:00 - [31] - Quote Yes, development progess is good with regular updates. I do not expect huge updates considering this is a free to play and depending on the players willingness to buy ingame items. I am entertained and enjoy comming back to Dust.
howard sanchez DUST University Ivy League 552	Posted - 2013.06.12 05:41:00 - [32] - Quote Yes
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES EoN. 59	Posted - 2013.06.12 06:12:00 - [33] - Quote I do, but it is dwindling. If only CCP would update faster.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 138	Posted - 2013.06.12 06:25:00 - [34] - Quote Yes. I see a wealth of potential in this game. I really enjoy EVE and like the lore and aesthetic of dust. However I am not going to turn the blind eye to the imbalances and seemingly lack of future console forethough, also the lack of Racial gear and updates being months a part on a game that clearly isn't finished yet. However soooooo sooooo much potential here, destiny looks good but will be shallow, Planetside 2 has the gameplay but lack of story, and I don't even know what to say about warframe but.....looks like garbage.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 35	Posted - 2013.06.12 07:27:00 - [35] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Do you have faith in CCP still? Respond yes if you do or no if you don't. You're free to explain your reasons but it's not needed. You may reply with being on the fence - but such replies means your faith has taken a hit. My answer is yes - but it hangs on a very thin thread and I'd be willing to walk away for a better game that offers PvP and territorial conquest for clans/corps/leagues. Yes they will probably eventually get it right, but who can wait around for 5-15 years to play the finished product on a Playstation 6 Neural VR? That's like having a goddamn mortgage on a house. Actually, in gamer years that's like asking if you think the world will be a better place for your great grand children. Who the hell knows?
hooc order Deep Space Republic 310	Posted - 2013.06.12 07:31:00 - [36] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Do you have faith in CCP still? Respond yes if you do or no if you don't. You're free to explain your reasons but it's not needed. You may reply with being on the fence - but such replies means your faith has taken a hit. My answer is yes - but it hangs on a very thin thread and I'd be willing to walk away for a better game that offers PvP and territorial conquest for clans/corps/leagues. no idea. It really depends on how much money they have to burn. If it is infinite then they can just keep plugging away at it until they get it right. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.... Bu considering they had to restructure like a year or two ago i am pretty sure they don't have a pile of money to dump on the game. My guess is no they will not succeed....but not knowing their finances it is a wild guess.
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 30	Posted - 2013.06.12 07:33:00 - [37] - Quote Yes I do. Because I still see around six thousand people on every day, just like me. Despite all the QQ here and all the doom speakers. Six thousand people every day. Your here because you like this game. You post because you like this game,... it has you. If it didn't you would have left . Simple as that.
Solia Breton Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 1	Posted - 2013.06.12 07:34:00 - [38] - Quote yes ccp does everything they need to over time... i just pray enough players have enough patience
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 190	Posted - 2013.06.12 07:35:00 - [39] - Quote I'm waiting for CCP to make a good game out of this. I basically only stay because the vision has potential. Right now, I barely play. I only log in for my corporate responsibilities.
ReGnYuM Imperfects Negative-Feedback 157	Posted - 2013.06.12 07:41:00 - [40] - Quote No Come this fall I am moving to PS4. If Dust is not on PS4 then I will just assume it is like PS3... outdated

Akurabis Dark Force Katana General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2013.06.12 07:45:00 - [41] - Quote Yes. They're creating an awesome game, and trying to do just that (although probably getting distracted by all the QQs), unlike the bland and overly-market-researched crap that other studios have on repeat. Let them do their job, and cease the psy-ops.
Panther Alpha Lone Wolf Going Solo 493	Posted - 2013.06.12 07:45:00 - [42] - Quote I had faith to the Uprising launch.. then my faith started to banish with every passing week.... now is just a small light of HOPE.
James-5955 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 200	Posted - 2013.06.12 07:51:00 - [43] - Quote Not really, I feel they've had enough time to make this a good game and it's still not there IMO. I feel like it got worse when chromosome ended. At this point I can no longer hit the weekly cap because playing just doesn't sound interesting usually, and if I think about playing Dust instead of doing it out of habit I'll usually decide not to. Playing other games sounds better actually.. I just play here and there to keep gaining some SP in hopes that it does get better, but no longer spending money on it.
James-5955 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 200	Posted - 2013.06.12 07:54:00 - [44] - Quote Nope. Only play it here and there to gain some SP and even then more often than not I end up regretting it and thinking about how I could've played another game. With the PS4 coming and all these other games coming up I don't really feel like continuing with Dust. I feel like its gotten worse since they moved on from chromosome and it still feels like a mediocre game at best. I've already decided to not spend money on it anymore.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission 177	Posted - 2013.06.12 08:00:00 - [45] - Quote CCP needs to start publishing a roadmap that also shows possible mechanics for game modes etc. If we had PC mechanics published way before PC was launched people would have shown where the errors were. At the moment I feel like a lot if the development is on the fly. I am not convinved they have a roadmap bit a project document of ideas. None of this is my real concern. I am inclined to think that the underlying code used to develop this game is already set in stone hence everytime they try and fix moment / aiming etc. they can't really. And there is going to be no way of going back and rewriting it all due to the amount of time and money that would take. I will play until another clan based shooter comes along and that one starts to take over my time.
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 191	Posted - 2013.06.12 09:01:00 - [46] - Quote What we need is CCP to put this on PS4 ASAP.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 430	Posted - 2013.06.12 09:58:00 - [47] - Quote everything is good about this game: -Story -Meta -Aesthetics The only problems are the FPS mechanics, too archaic.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 340	Posted - 2013.06.12 10:15:00 - [48] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: What we need is CCP to put this on PS4 ASAP. NOOOOOOOOO don't spoil the launch of the ps4 with this tedious, boring game, And no I dont have faith
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1384	Posted - 2013.06.12 10:21:00 - [49] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: PS4 or GTFO
Allah's Snackbar Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 153	Posted - 2013.06.12 10:43:00 - [50] - Quote No faith left whatsoever. It's inconceivable to me that a game could go through such an interminable beta to transform into an arguably worse game upon release. As well as DUST 514 just being a poor, poor game (metacritic 59) CCP's lack of communication, organisation and solely reactive approach to issues demonstrates to me this is no longer a game to be investing myself in. With the arrival of the PS4 you can only expect in DUST a core rusted on group of EVE types happy for "potential" in a sub-par FPS game with some kind of Soviet era FIVE YEAR PLAN to guide the way. Yeah, life might be too short to be honest because if the main player base has those low expectations, expect only those to be delivered to. Underlying this though is a basic annoyance I have for the way that players (many of them also customers) are being treated by CCP. The lack of information, the questionable quality, the moderation here among other things is a real real disgrace. This annoyance is somewhat professional. I've been involved in the development of several notable game titles. One of which was pulled during in-house beta to be completely reworked adding well over a year to the date because that company had one overriding principle. Don't deliver crap to the player and expect them to call it roses.

Yeva Kalsani Reckoners 126	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:10:00 - [51] - Quote On the fence, because: it has potential. But the rate at which it's being developed towards that potential is ridiculously slow. I don't care about EVE taking ten years to become great by comparisonGÇöthat's not a good track record to be proud of. All it shows is tenacity, not quality development. And if this game was supposed to advertise EVE to new players, it totally dropped the ball. At least for me: Slow-as-hell character advancement, tedious grinding, meta-game shenanigans, subscription fees, and development taking so long that you could leave for a year and come back to hardly any changes... after DUST, you couldn't get me to touch EVE with a ten-foot-pole unless you paid me money to play it.
CrotchGrab 360 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 112	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:26:00 - [52] - Quote I have faith, which is dwindling but faith nonetheless. Tbh I'm stoked about the PS4 and the amount of games for it... Written a list of games already and dam... it's gonna be expensive but I'm not missing out next-gen; gonna buy games brand new for once. Unless they really will cost -ú54.99....................
Rogue Saint Limited Liability 33	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:27:00 - [53] - Quote Yeva Kalsani wrote: On the fence, because: it has potential. But the rate at which it's being developed towards that potential is ridiculously slow. I don't care about EVE taking ten years to become great by comparisonGÇöthat's not a good track record to be proud of. All it shows is tenacity, not quality development. And if this game was supposed to advertise EVE to new players, it totally dropped the ball. At least for me: Slow-as-hell character advancement, tedious grinding, meta-game shenanigans, subscription fees, and development taking so long that you could leave for a year and come back to hardly any changes... after DUST, you couldn't get me to touch EVE with a ten-foot-pole unless you paid me money to play it. EVE didn't take 10 years to become great, its not like all of a sudden EVE is awesome, its been a natural, gradual progression to what it is today and baring a few faux pas releases its been awesome from day one. Clearly you're one of those that wants everything now so you can move on to the next game, EVE/DUST isn't for you, move along. As for the OP. Yes I have faith, yes I'm a CCP fan boi, they do things differently, which set them apart from the rest of the developers chugging out releases and DLC's just for profitz. The only other developer I can compare them to is EGOSoft, who also listen to their player base to make their singular product better and better. For those that have lost faith why the hell are you still here then? I've read your reasons, but you still persist to comment here and QQ. "I just login to perform corp duties" lmfao.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 659	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:29:00 - [54] - Quote Yes. Its still too early to throw the dummy out of the pram. If you feeling frustrated go out and have a BBQ. Organise a game of 40K or have a lan party. Dust can wait for the moment.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 724	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:39:00 - [55] - Quote xAckie wrote: CCP needs to start publishing a roadmap that also shows possible mechanics for game modes etc. If we had PC mechanics published way before PC was launched people would have shown where the errors were. At the moment I feel like a lot if the development is on the fly. I am not convinved they have a roadmap bit a project document of ideas. None of this is my real concern. I am inclined to think that the underlying code used to develop this game is already set in stone hence everytime they try and fix moment / aiming etc. they can't really. And there is going to be no way of going back and rewriting it all due to the amount of time and money that would take. I will play until another clan based shooter comes along and that one starts to take over my time. Actually True Grit did release the mechanics in detailed blogs and posts. The initial iteration was changed and updated after feedback before PC launched and once we had our hands on it and could actually find the errors and pitfalls with hands on experience we gave more feedback and are updating PC as we go. PC is actually been one of the areas of the game that is making strides because of it. Unfortunately its foundation is still a boring game with lousy core shooter mechanics, game instability and bugs and errors (Freaking terrain glitches).
Yeva Kalsani Reckoners 126	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:46:00 - [56] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Yeva Kalsani wrote: On the fence, because: it has potential. But the rate at which it's being developed towards that potential is ridiculously slow. I don't care about EVE taking ten years to become great by comparisonGÇöthat's not a good track record to be proud of. All it shows is tenacity, not quality development. And if this game was supposed to advertise EVE to new players, it totally dropped the ball. At least for me: Slow-as-hell character advancement, tedious grinding, meta-game shenanigans, subscription fees, and development taking so long that you could leave for a year and come back to hardly any changes... after DUST, you couldn't get me to touch EVE with a ten-foot-pole unless you paid me money to play it. EVE didn't take 10 years to become great, its not like all of a sudden EVE is awesome, its been a natural, gradual progression to what it is today and baring a few faux pas releases its been awesome from day one. Clearly you're one of those that wants everything now so you can move on to the next game, EVE/DUST isn't for you, move along. You shouldn't make silly assumptions like that, it only reflects badly on yourself. No matter how many times you bang your head against the wall, realistically speaking, DUST is lacking in early-, mid- and end-game content. Most MMOs struggle the most with the end-game part but at least get the others down and can retain players for at least a year. Judging by how many people try this game out and never return, these contents aren't even an issue, but the fundamentals of the game itself. And the reviews since 2003 of EVE online paint a different picture than being simply "awesome from day one", yes? According to reviews over the more recent years, it has indeed become gradually better, but what I'm saying is that it's not a good track record to compare DUST to EVE and the possibility of it becoming better over time in a market where most good products arrive in a solid, acceptable state and improve from there. Maybe you should move along and go try out some other MMOs just to get an idea of what most people would expect in terms of launch quality these days.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 352	Posted - 2013.06.12 12:12:00 - [57] - Quote Yes, But like someone said earlier they've got the summer for me, I hope they get their **** together.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 352	Posted - 2013.06.12 12:17:00 - [58] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Yeva Kalsani wrote: On the fence, because: it has potential. But the rate at which it's being developed towards that potential is ridiculously slow. I don't care about EVE taking ten years to become great by comparisonGÇöthat's not a good track record to be proud of. All it shows is tenacity, not quality development. And if this game was supposed to advertise EVE to new players, it totally dropped the ball. At least for me: Slow-as-hell character advancement, tedious grinding, meta-game shenanigans, subscription fees, and development taking so long that you could leave for a year and come back to hardly any changes... after DUST, you couldn't get me to touch EVE with a ten-foot-pole unless you paid me money to play it. EVE didn't take 10 years to become great, its not like all of a sudden EVE is awesome, its been a natural, gradual progression to what it is today and baring a few faux pas releases its been awesome from day one. Clearly you're one of those that wants everything now so you can move on to the next game, EVE/DUST isn't for you, move along. As for the OP. Yes I have faith, yes I'm a CCP fan boi, they do things differently, which set them apart from the rest of the developers chugging out releases and DLC's just for profitz. The only other developer I can compare them to is EGOSoft, who also listen to their player base to make their singular product better and better. For those that have lost faith why the hell are you still here then? I've read your reasons, but you still persist to comment here and QQ. "I just login to perform corp duties" lmfao. As for PS4, won't be for at least 2 years IMO. If it takes 2 years to get a PS4 release it'll be you and 10 other guys in a circle jerk talking about how everybody else is too stupid and impatient to understand the almighty CCP.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission 177	Posted - 2013.06.12 12:21:00 - [59] - Quote Gunner Nightingale wrote: xAckie wrote: CCP needs to start publishing a roadmap that also shows possible mechanics for game modes etc. If we had PC mechanics published way before PC was launched people would have shown where the errors were. At the moment I feel like a lot if the development is on the fly. I am not convinved they have a roadmap bit a project document of ideas. None of this is my real concern. I am inclined to think that the underlying code used to develop this game is already set in stone hence everytime they try and fix moment / aiming etc. they can't really. And there is going to be no way of going back and rewriting it all due to the amount of time and money that would take. I will play until another clan based shooter comes along and that one starts to take over my time. Actually True Grit did release the mechanics in detailed blogs and posts. The initial iteration was changed and updated after feedback before PC launched and once we had our hands on it and could actually find the errors and pitfalls with hands on experience we gave more feedback and are updating PC as we go. PC is actually been one of the areas of the game that is making strides because of it. Unfortunately its foundation is still a boring game with lousy core shooter mechanics, game instability and bugs and errors (Freaking terrain glitches). fair enough - responding mainly to recognise your feedback on PC, its been excellent.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1393	Posted - 2013.06.12 12:26:00 - [60] - Quote CCPs Incompetency wrote: Uh no, that was easy Here is why Actually Hell no Honestly, it looks pretty, but all I'm seeing is blob warfare and people shouting "I need a medic!" At least Dust 514 ~~has~~ had a Grenade Launcher to keep zerg rushers on their toes.



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