Shield's need their own detriment to balance with armor plating's movement penalty.

I would say having each module tack on a % increase in a player's hitbox would be a start. None of this skin tight super shield stuff. Stronger armor makes you a larger target by slowing you down so stronger shields make you a larger target by literally making you a larger target.

I'm pretty sure they increase profile scan radius...

I'm pretty sure they increase profile scan radius...

Nah, it's only balanced if I can role 600+ armor with 22HP/s repair rate on a Gallente Logistics without movement penalty.otherwise, still an imbalance in favor shields.

Exaggerating but come on, this should have been seen by internal QA at some point.

Nah.
We got a nice idea that allows armor users to rep at a decent speed, but still take longer to lick their wounds outside of combat.
The idea revolves around that:
Shield = Skirmishers
They dictate range and when to engage, can get in and out of combat quickly and regenerate

Armor = Brawlers
They're tanky, they're slow and if you're caught near one, you better run.
Can't get in and out of combat quickly, and regenerate very slowly outside of combat.

You will see Soon(TM)

I keep seeing "flux" and "scrambler" but I have yet to see someone explain how there's balance in having 600 shields without penalty when you can't perform the same with armor. If it was armor with 600 HP with 22HP/s repair, with no movement penalty, you wouldn't have much of an argument would you?

So, next build. Gotcha.

Got Caldari Logistics players running around with 500-600 Shields and they don't receive a mobility penalty like we armor tankers - yet you tack on 60% HP on Free LAVs? Why do we have to wait months for a new build for you to start adding balance features but you can suddenly form a unanimous decision to "fix" vehicles and turn this into Wacky Races?

Also, took a look at the fused locus grenades. Who's bright idea was it to make them Grenadier 1 and the isk variant Grenadier 5 with the CPU/PG intensiveness associated with it? Its always "we forgot to add the script" or some other BS excuse, GET IT TOGETHER CCP SHANGHAI

I'm a caldari logi (aka a bumblebee) and I agree we have a certain advantage to a degree. Honestly, it's hard to feel badass when even a militia flux grenades reduces us to wet cardboard. Six hundred shields mean nothing when even the freshest of noobs can effectively take us out of the game. Same thing can be said for the scrambler rifle.

I'd say rather than call for a nerf, you might do better just changing up your playstyle a little.

I'm a caldari logi (aka a bumblebee) and I agree we have a certain advantage to a degree. Honestly, it's hard to feel badass when even a militia flux grenades reduces us to wet cardboard. Six hundred shields mean nothing when even the freshest of noobs can effectively take us out of the game. Same thing can be said for the scrambler rifle.

I'd say rather than call for a nerf, you might do better just changing up your playstyle a little.

Haven't you got the memo? it's beyond their mental capacity to find a counter on their own, so they need the dev's to hold their hand...

A. Militia flux doesn't exist so I know you're BSing.

lol



Good catch. I was wrong, I meant entry level flux and AV. Seeing as death by flux blast is what kills me most often, I think it's a perfectly valid argument.

So you want me to react to your complaining about locus grenades? I don't see the point. Locus for armor, flux for shields. I see balance, but since you're an armor user, I don't expect to sway you.

Then why should I react to your advocating the use of flux grenades? You're a shield tanker, I don't expect to sway you.

But I don't see a bunch of threads on how armor tanking (infantry) is OP.

So you want me to react to your complaining about locus grenades? I don't see the point. Locus for armor, flux for shields. I see balance, but since you're an armor user, I don't expect to sway you.