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TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:56:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Got Caldari Logistics players running around with 500-600 Shields and they don't receive a mobility penalty like we armor tankers - yet you tack on 60% HP on Free LAVs? Why do we have to wait months for a new build for you to start adding balance features but you can suddenly form a unanimous decision to "fix" vehicles and turn this into Wacky Races?
Also, took a look at the fused locus grenades. Who's bright idea was it to make them Grenadier 1 and the isk variant Grenadier 5 with the CPU/PG intensiveness associated with it? Its always "we forgot to add the script" or some other BS excuse, GET IT TOGETHER CCP SHANGHAI
THROW A FLUX GRENADE AND STOP CRYING |
TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.06.10 02:18:00 -
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Throw a flux grenade and stop crying Throw an AV grenade at an LAV and stop crying Pick up a TAC and stop crying
Why is it that the only ******* response to something that is obviously broken is always changing your specialization to deal with it? Locus grenades still suck for armor tankers and we can't get out of the way of the things, beyond that Flux don't kill - locus do. Either way, still come out better off with shields because you have more HP with NO MOVEMENT PENALTY
Hotfix the new plates in or reduce movement speed penalty on armor plates. Stupid that we have to wait months for something that was an issue since the dawn of the game.[/quote]
your argument is not valid, caldri logi has only 99 armor which is basically a 1 bullet kill if you hit it with flux.
The tac was fine, you guys are bad.
The caldari logi suit is fine, you guys are bad.
I don't come on forums and cry for nerfs, that's what bad players do, I don't come on the forum and ask for buffs, thats what bad players do.
Someone is always going to be better then you, someone is always going to have a better suit then you, someone is always going to have more sp then you.
How I choose to make my suit is up to me, and how you counter it, is up to you, GET BETTER.
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TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.06.10 02:39:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:TheMarkOf22 wrote: Throw a flux grenade and stop crying Throw an AV grenade at an LAV and stop crying Pick up a TAC and stop crying
Why is it that the only ******* response to something that is obviously broken is always changing your specialization to deal with it? Locus grenades still suck for armor tankers and we can't get out of the way of the things, beyond that Flux don't kill - locus do. Either way, still come out better off with shields because you have more HP with NO MOVEMENT PENALTY
Hotfix the new plates in or reduce movement speed penalty on armor plates. Stupid that we have to wait months for something that was an issue since the dawn of the game.
your argument is not valid, caldri logi has only 99 armor which is basically a 1 bullet kill if you hit it with flux. The tac was fine, you guys are bad. The caldari logi suit is fine, you guys are bad. I don't come on forums and cry for nerfs, that's what bad players do, I don't come on the forum and ask for buffs, thats what bad players do. Someone is always going to be better then you, someone is always going to have a better suit then you, someone is always going to have more sp then you. How I choose to make my suit is up to me, and how you counter it, is up to you, GET BETTER.
Lmfao coming from Internal Error that is HILARIOUS - how about them grenade changes a few months back? Didn't ***** about those did you? [/quote]
? Nope....
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TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.06.10 02:44:00 -
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I would never complain about grenade's I personally don't like them and think their cheap kills in all shooters.
Here's a link to my MAG stats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24oELW2zEKk
At that time I had 137,000 kills and out of all that only 3000 grenade kills(lowest of any weapon), Almost never ran with grenades.
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TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.06.10 04:29:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Even still the argument here is that CCP can 'hotfix' all of the the HP values on vehicles but they stall whenever there's a very obvious imbalance like Caldari Logis rolling with 600+ shields or Fused Locus grenades having no ISK equivalent. I just find this amazing.
you can put almost 600 hp shield on every logi suit....
use a flux, that's the counter... |
TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.06.10 04:30:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:scrambler rifle says hi
you can't use that or flux grenades, clearly.... |
TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.06.10 04:31:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Even still the argument here is that CCP can 'hotfix' all of the the HP values on vehicles but they stall whenever there's a very obvious imbalance like Caldari Logis rolling with 600+ shields or Fused Locus grenades having no ISK equivalent. I just find this amazing. It is not even the shields and health.... 5 highs 4 lows...that alone shoulg throw a red flag up. I like the Caldari Logi, but demanded a respec due to knowing it would be buffed. I tried to choose a class and race that would not be buffed for a long time due to it having 5 highs 2 lows minni assault. and to top it of i said screw it and Im stick with proto smg. When picking what you spend SP into, thry to make sure that it is NOT the Flavoe of the month.....or you will regret it......known fact.
they all have equal slots, every single logi just about.
If none of the top players used this suit, would we even be talking about it? probably not... |
TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.06.10 04:41:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:Shield's need their own detriment to balance with armor plating's movement penalty.
I would say having each module tack on a % increase in a player's hitbox would be a start. None of this skin tight super shield stuff. Stronger armor makes you a larger target by slowing you down so stronger shields make you a larger target by literally making you a larger target.
I'm pretty sure they increase profile scan radius... |
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Posted - 2013.06.10 04:57:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I keep seeing "flux" and "scrambler" but I have yet to see someone explain how there's balance in having 600 shields without penalty when you can't perform the same with armor. If it was armor with 600 HP with 22HP/s repair, with no movement penalty, you wouldn't have much of an argument would you?
they give up fire power for extra slots dummy |
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Posted - 2013.06.10 05:04:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Got Caldari Logistics players running around with 500-600 Shields and they don't receive a mobility penalty like we armor tankers - yet you tack on 60% HP on Free LAVs? Why do we have to wait months for a new build for you to start adding balance features but you can suddenly form a unanimous decision to "fix" vehicles and turn this into Wacky Races?
Also, took a look at the fused locus grenades. Who's bright idea was it to make them Grenadier 1 and the isk variant Grenadier 5 with the CPU/PG intensiveness associated with it? Its always "we forgot to add the script" or some other BS excuse, GET IT TOGETHER CCP SHANGHAI I'm a caldari logi (aka a bumblebee) and I agree we have a certain advantage to a degree. Honestly, it's hard to feel badass when even a militia flux grenades reduces us to wet cardboard. Six hundred shields mean nothing when even the freshest of noobs can effectively take us out of the game. Same thing can be said for the scrambler rifle. I'd say rather than call for a nerf, you might do better just changing up your playstyle a little.
Haven't you got the memo? it's beyond their mental capacity to find a counter on their own, so they need the dev's to hold their hand... |
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