ya i think there's been people talking about this on the forums already

Sounds like a good idea. The match should have an extra feature though to give veterans incentive to earn more ISK and play as proto to get the higher ISK rewards.

Perhaps the top 5 players on the 'end of match leaderboards' (for each team) should be rewarded significantly more ISK based on there WP earned. Maybe 800 000 ISK more for coming 1st, and 700 000 ISK more for coming 2nd, 600 000 ISK for coming 3rd, 400 000 ISK for coming 4th, 350 000 ISK for coming 5th if all these players get more than 1300 WP for each individual player.

Eris Ernaga, mercs will always face other mercs with more SP than them. I've been there. You've been there. We've all been there. New players are going to have to learn to deal with enemies with more SP than them.

If the problem you have is facing off against too many players who use proto gear as a crutch, I agree. People should be allowed to run their proto fit whenever they feel like it; but losing their proto fit should cost them enough to consider the risk of losing it. This just isn't the case at the moment. Players are just too rich and proto gear too cheap. Even if a player runs out of isk from burning through too many proto fits, they can always fall back on their unlimited supply of starter fits. We as players have no consequence for being without isk and are not discouraged in the least from running our most expensive gear.

PS: I have around 8mil SP at the moment, only run standard/militia gear, and have killed and have been killed by people running proto gear many times.

Your "idea" is what PC and FW are supposed to be doing now. The problem is the rewards don't satisfy, and the lag renders the game unplayable. If CCP can fix those two game types, then you'll get your wish.

First off you are not a "vet"this word should be reserved for people who fight in actual battle in real life not a video game.

This game is horribly unbalanced and not really fun for new players unless they are in the academy. I am finding myself more and more capping my active sp and letting the game sit until wedsnday. I don't have fun getting owned by 10 mil sp players every match and I cannot imagine anyone else does either. How many people actually see newer players sticking around anymore? I don't, this game is becoming more unbalanced every week as newer players are simply quoting or afk farming so they can stand a chance against the proto horde.

Lol getting angry over a word alright then I'll switch it to long term video game player. lmao

You are clueless dude...

You are clueless dude...

I have 10.1 mill skill points and have been playing for a year since June 2 this month. I would like to keep around instant battles for the randomness of it but expanding the academy would be great and giving a vets match only would not only be fun for vets but smart.

Thank you
Eris Ernaga

This is New Eden, a ruthless place where those who threaten to commit suicide are the butt of jokes. I never liked the notion of academy battles because It creates false expectations for new players. They will have to learn how to face other mercs with more SP than them eventually and coddling them further will be counter productive to that end.

Also, the reason for me mentioning my accumulated SP, the gear I run and how I fair in matches against proto fits is not to compare e-peens with you but rather to point out that I'm one of those that you wish to coddle and I do ok against your "vets".

Can't really like this post because I know if you had joined this game yesterday and there was no academy you would change up your tune quick. It comes down to fairness you simply don't put someone whos never played before up against a very old player if it was up to me it would be like this...

Tutorial/Boot Camp
Academy Tier 1, tier 2, tier 3, tier 4, tier 5
full access to mercenary battles and infantry battles
vet battles at 10 mill sp

Eris Ernaga, mercs will always face other mercs with more SP than them. I've been there. You've been there. We've all been there.

I started playing during Chromosome, open beta, before academy battles where implemented and my opinions during that time were pretty much the same as they are now. What you "know" of me is not fact. Fairness is not in the culture of New Eden.

You speak of "New Eden" like it is your religion, go outside and get some fresh air...

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1. This is the real world where people invest their time into games that provide a little bit of gratification and they aren't destroyed every match. Furthermore, this community is built of people that have lives and obligations other than building an imaginary character in a video game.

2. This is a world of highly competitive business where the consumer has multiple choices in titles and can leave a game whenever he or she chooses. This includes leaving a free to play game that the consumer has little time invested in because they aren't obligated in recuperating $59.99 for a title. A world of low profit margins, especially considering the game being free 2 play. I would imagine the thought of so many new players leaving would worry ccp, since this is going to be the bulk of their revenue.

3. The fact is at this moment, I don't see this game growing in the direction that CCP wants it to. To most businesses the prospect of limited growth is a killer. CCP probably has obligations to investors to turn some kind of gain. This will require them to bring in new revenue aka new players. I just don't see more new players coming in, especially with how unbalanced the game is coming out of the Academy.

4. Players need the ability of choosing where they want to play and who they want to play with. More experienced players need to be matched up against each other. Until these systems are in place i'm gonna keep building my passive SP unemployment and wait until I can fare up against the proto horde.

bring on the haters ;).

I started playing during Chromosome, open beta, before academy battles where implemented and my opinions during that time were pretty much the same as they are now. What you "know" of me is not fact. Fairness is not in the culture of New Eden.

As all of the veterans are quitting PC because playing that is miserable, vets are back roaming pub games making everyone there feeling miserable

kinda funny...

Yes and I have been playing since closed beta your not a old player your views and opinion doesn't direct the way CCP will shape and make their game especially if that opinion is unfair. You should be stripped of all your skill points and ran in instant battles until you can't take it anymore and quit.

Thanks
Eris Ernaga

Can't really like this post because I know if you had joined this game yesterday and there was no academy you would change up your tune quick. It comes down to fairness you simply don't put someone whos never played before up against a very old player if it was up to me it would be like this...