Please CCP lets give the vets somewhere to go how about a match labeled veterans battle this is for 10 mill skill points and above players only. Everyone here will have a chance because they will all obviously be specialized into something. I can only imagine what strategys these players would come up with and what they would loose on the battlefield. Instant battles are plagued with veterans in EVE would you put a trial account up against a 1 or 2 year player? Thanks for reading on my idea guys.

Eris Ernaga

I think the mode you are looking for is PC battle...

I've been playing for around a week now, I know I hold absolutely no clout, and i'm not really making any suggestions cause my knowledge is so limited, but here is what i'm seeing:

It's rough for new players. I'm sure it has always been pretty rough for new players. At first I thought a gear based tier system would be good for matchmaking, but I understand now that is not the solution. I don't know what the solution is. Regardless of that, the feeling I get right now is, __ out of every 10 matches I will be utterly worthless. __ out of every 10 matches I will be unable to kill ANYONE at all, __ out of 10 matches almost any weapon from almost any range will kill me in well under a second. Now i'm saying "__ out of 10" because based on the day, the time, and who all is on the same team as me, things do get better or worse. I've found the later it gets at night (i'm on Eastern Standard Time) the more stout the opposition. Also, with today being my first REAL Wednesday, I've found today particularly rough, as i'm guessing everyone is trying to cap out. I don't know how many noobs are AFKing, but if any are, I wanna say I can't blame them, even though I won't, and do not approve. I personally don't AFK (and I have the sh1tty stats to prove it lol). I'm not complaining. If this is what everyone goes through, then I should have to go through it as well. But when you're worried about adding new players and, more importantly, retaining new players, to say "yeah, you can't really do **** until you're a couple months in at least", that seems to be a pretty self destructive business model. Especially when your income counts on people saying "ok, I like and or enjoy this game, i'll throw down some cash" as opposed to "well I spent 60 bucks on the game, it sucks, moving on". Would you buy an oven from Sears if they told you that it wouldn't work right for 2 or 3 months? It'll turn on, you just can't cook anything with it. You'd go to Brandsmart and spend an extra 60 bucks to buy an oven you could use right then. I won't lie, I've vented (borderline complained lol) on a few posts here in the forum, but sometimes that's the only thing I am able to do. I am in it for the long haul good or bad, for now at least, and hopefully, sooner rather than later, I hit the point where i'm able to compete with seasoned, well equipped Dust members in meaningful battles. That being said, once I finally do become a seasoned, well equipped member of the Dust community, if my only options for battle are laggy, crappy PC battles (<---I know nothing at all of these ATM) or continually ass raping Rookies, i'm not sure I would want to play anymore.

Eris Ernaga, mercs will always face other mercs with more SP than them. I've been there. You've been there. We've all been there. New players are going to have to learn to deal with enemies with more SP than them.

If the problem you have is facing off against too many players who use proto gear as a crutch, I agree. People should be allowed to run their proto fit whenever they feel like it; but losing their proto fit should cost them enough to consider the risk of losing it. This just isn't the case at the moment. Players are just too rich and proto gear too cheap. Even if a player runs out of isk from burning through too many proto fits, they can always fall back on their unlimited supply of starter fits. We as players have no consequence for being without isk and are not discouraged in the least from running our most expensive gear.

PS: I have around 8mil SP at the moment, only run standard/militia gear, and have killed and have been killed by people running proto gear many times.

I'm giving the input i'm able to give based on my experience. I COULD start making sweeping suggestions based on absolutely nothing if you want. Or I could go and quote every last sentence that applies to my statements from this thread and have a novel for everyone to read. Or you could try and avoid +1ing my posts if you're gonna turn around and bash them.

Plus, there were some who didn't agree with the general idea you are discussing. I was merely stating your point in a different light. Not to say others are wrong, as I stated, I hold no clout, just putting in my 2 cents. I was trying to back up your point.

After being in 3 complete stompings where the older players were racking up 20-30+(around 4 in one match alone) kills on people who had no idea how to fight back all I can say is wtf, how do you expect someone who can hardly even get a standard dropsuit or even standard gear to face against someone in full proto with over 10mil of sp. The matches aren't even fun anymore,....

Please CCP lets give the vets somewhere to go how about a match labeled veterans battle this is for 10 mill skill points and above players only. Everyone here will have a chance because they will all obviously be specialized into something. I can only imagine what strategys these players would come up with and what they would loose on the battlefield. Instant battles are plagued with veterans in EVE would you put a trial account up against a 1 or 2 year player? Thanks for reading on my idea guys.

Eris Ernaga

+10

I made this exact request about a week ago. See if you agree. It's in this thread.

Is there anyone who believes this would keep proto squads out of pub matches? Maybe for a while, but as soon as those precious kds start to drop... it's back to pubstomping. Given the choice, I think alot of these players would rather feel like superman than face a challenge. Even if it is an act that drives away new players and harms the game.

New players need to learn to work together and communicate. Form squads and set objectives. It doesn't take a proto suit to lay waste to unorganized solo player teams.

Is there anyone who believes this would keep proto squads out of pub matches? Maybe for a while, but as soon as those precious kds start to drop... it's back to pubstomping. Given the choice, I think alot of these players would rather feel like superman than face a challenge. Even if it is an act that drives away new players and harms the game.

New players need to learn to work together and communicate. Form squads and set objectives. It doesn't take a proto suit to lay waste to unorganized solo player teams.

This should definitely happen

I like the idea but would like it to be open for any player but provide warning for those under 10mill. Also have this as the primary battles for 10mill+. I say make it open bevause while I'm well under the 10mill I can hold myown against full proto and would like the challange

I think it might work better with wp, and what about multiple levels amateur pro vet LEGEND

Tiericide....