DUST Search - Lets give the vets somewhere to go

Eris Ernaga wrote:

medomai grey wrote:

Eris Ernaga, mercs will always face other mercs with more SP than them. I've been there. You've been there. We've all been there. New players are going to have to learn to deal with enemies with more SP than them.

If the problem you have is facing off against too many players who use proto gear as a crutch, I agree. People should be allowed to run their proto fit whenever they feel like it; but losing their proto fit should cost them enough to consider the risk of losing it. This just isn't the case at the moment. Players are just too rich and proto gear too cheap. Even if a player runs out of isk from burning through too many proto fits, they can always fall back on their unlimited supply of starter fits. We as players have no consequence for being without isk and are not discouraged in the least from running our most expensive gear.

PS: I have around 8mil SP at the moment, only run standard/militia gear, and have killed and have been killed by people running proto gear many times.

I have 10.1 mill skill points and have been playing for a year since June 2 this month. I would like to keep around instant battles for the randomness of it but expanding the academy would be great and giving a vets match only would not only be fun for vets but smart.

Thank you
Eris Ernaga


Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
medomai grey Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 24	Posted - 2013.06.09 07:14:00 - [1] - Quote Eris Ernaga, mercs will always face other mercs with more SP than them. I've been there. You've been there. We've all been there. New players are going to have to learn to deal with enemies with more SP than them. If the problem you have is facing off against too many players who use proto gear as a crutch, I agree. People should be allowed to run their proto fit whenever they feel like it; but losing their proto fit should cost them enough to consider the risk of losing it. This just isn't the case at the moment. Players are just too rich and proto gear too cheap. Even if a player runs out of isk from burning through too many proto fits, they can always fall back on their unlimited supply of starter fits. We as players have no consequence for being without isk and are not discouraged in the least from running our most expensive gear. PS: I have around 8mil SP at the moment, only run standard/militia gear, and have killed and have been killed by people running proto gear many times.
medomai grey Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 24	Posted - 2013.06.09 20:41:00 - [2] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: medomai grey wrote: Eris Ernaga, mercs will always face other mercs with more SP than them. I've been there. You've been there. We've all been there. New players are going to have to learn to deal with enemies with more SP than them. If the problem you have is facing off against too many players who use proto gear as a crutch, I agree. People should be allowed to run their proto fit whenever they feel like it; but losing their proto fit should cost them enough to consider the risk of losing it. This just isn't the case at the moment. Players are just too rich and proto gear too cheap. Even if a player runs out of isk from burning through too many proto fits, they can always fall back on their unlimited supply of starter fits. We as players have no consequence for being without isk and are not discouraged in the least from running our most expensive gear. PS: I have around 8mil SP at the moment, only run standard/militia gear, and have killed and have been killed by people running proto gear many times. I have 10.1 mill skill points and have been playing for a year since June 2 this month. I would like to keep around instant battles for the randomness of it but expanding the academy would be great and giving a vets match only would not only be fun for vets but smart. Thank you Eris Ernaga This is New Eden, a ruthless place where those who threaten to commit suicide are the butt of jokes. I never liked the notion of academy battles because It creates false expectations for new players. They will have to learn how to face other mercs with more SP than them eventually and coddling them further will be counter productive to that end. Also, the reason for me mentioning my accumulated SP, the gear I run and how I fair in matches against proto fits is not to compare e-peens with you but rather to point out that I'm one of those that you wish to coddle and I do ok against your "vets".
medomai grey Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 25	Posted - 2013.06.09 21:08:00 - [3] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Can't really like this post because I know if you had joined this game yesterday and there was no academy you would change up your tune quick. It comes down to fairness you simply don't put someone whos never played before up against a very old player if it was up to me it would be like this... Tutorial/Boot Camp Academy Tier 1, tier 2, tier 3, tier 4, tier 5 full access to mercenary battles and infantry battles vet battles at 10 mill sp I started playing during Chromosome, open beta, before academy battles where implemented and my opinions during that time were pretty much the same as they are now. What you "know" of me is not fact. Fairness is not in the culture of New Eden. medomai grey wrote: Eris Ernaga, mercs will always face other mercs with more SP than them. I've been there. You've been there. We've all been there.
medomai grey Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 25	Posted - 2013.06.09 21:24:00 - [4] - Quote TcuBe3 wrote: You speak of "New Eden" like it is your religion, go outside and get some fresh air... We must all prey that the EVE Gate opens a path to New Eden for our predecessors! Our sins have consumed all resources in the known universe, leaving nothing for our children! Pray to New Eden and the EVE Gate for the salvation of your children! :P
medomai grey Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 26	Posted - 2013.06.11 10:34:00 - [5] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Yes and I have been playing since closed beta your not a old player your views and opinion doesn't direct the way CCP will shape and make their game especially if that opinion is unfair. You should be stripped of all your skill points and ran in instant battles until you can't take it anymore and quit. Thanks Eris Ernaga Again, you have intentionally ignored and taken out of context the content of my post and turned your thread into a who has the biggest e-peen contest. It may cause your e-peen to shrivel to know this, but countering every argument with "my e-peen is bigger than yours" is not a valid counter. And it may shock you to know that CCP does in fact shape its game based off opinions and other factors. It's why CCP is has a good rep and it's why you bothered to even start this thread in the first place. Put your e-peen back in your pants because no one gives a kitten how big you say it is. Eris Ernaga wrote: Can't really like this post because I know if you had joined this game yesterday and there was no academy you would change up your tune quick. It comes down to fairness you simply don't put someone whos never played before up against a very old player if it was up to me it would be like this... In open-beta as a neophyte, I fought mercs with much more SP than I and understood why I was getting slaughtered. I did not begrudge the system for starting me at level 1 and pitting me against higher leveled players. Sound similar to joining the game fresh without academy battles and having to face off against older players? It should. You, me, and most of the current player base went through this. Why are we still here playing the game if we could never get past that "terrible" new player experience? Now back to the topic of the thread that you like to keep digressing from to admire your e-peen. No, we should not coddle new players by expanding academy battles. Players improve when faced with a challenge. Who are you to try and deny them the opportunity for self improvement? If you take issue with proto stomping, I've already discussed this in your thread. Go back and look for it because I doubt you bothered to read it all the way through. Your welcome, Grey
medomai grey Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 26	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:51:00 - [6] - Quote I feel like I'm talking to a little boy when I have to constantly remind you that you are still taking my posts out of context because you lack the ability of comprehension. It's not that I can't walk you though each sentence and explain the logic and how it relates to the thread as a whole, you're simply not worth it. Every shoddy attempt of a rebuttal you make relies on misinterpretation, pure assumptions, personal attacks, comparing apples to oranges, e-peen stroking, and a holier-than-thou attitude that make religious extremist look sane. On this note, you are a complete disgrace to the State and should participate in the tea Makers ceremony. If one were to bother searching for your past posts, they would see that you are incapable of taking criticism and respond to anyone that disagrees with you by throwing tantrums like a little boy. So rage on little firecracker boy. Your tears fill my cup with sweet nectar and your rage warms it.
medomai grey Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 26	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:09:00 - [7] - Quote After I blatantly tell you that I'm going to troll you from now on to your face, you immediately respond in tears and rage. I wonder how long I can milk you little firecracker boy?
medomai grey Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 26	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:34:00 - [8] - Quote More tears and rage while knowing your being trolled.... BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Little firecracker boy! By the way, you still crying that you spent more isk than you actually had and then went negative?