He seriously posted that?

The fact that SI is walking away from PC and possibly Dust shows they clearly they have won because so far they are the only ones to have truly beaten Dust and simply stop logging on.

Kudos, im getting there myself.

The fact that SI is walking away from PC and possibly Dust shows they clearly they have won because so far they are the only ones to have truly beaten Dust and simply stop logging on.

Kudos, im getting there myself.

Well that was quick

Summer time, Ladies, family, friends, holidays & Sun. Priories guys and girls.

Summer time, Ladies, family, friends, holidays & Sun. Priories guys and girls.

Personally (not speaking on behalf of the corp or alliance):
I hold EoN in very high regard for stomping Orion out of Dust514 and getting the morale momentum to take all CRONOS US timed districts one by one. The loss of those districts made room for a morale drop which resulted in a cascading failure of morale, feeding worse battlefield performance. You are tough.

I can't but help wonder though, are some in EoN leadership actually N-F plants? The coalition bonds seem surprisingly strong with all the talk of being unaffiliated from EoN. Will ROFL get ROFLstomped by the coalition next, or will ROFL and EoN join forces to deter N-F from the inevitable looking control of Molden Heath?

In any case, well played to both EoN and N-F from my behalf.

Solidify the win by taking all of the sandbox before the plug is pulled on dust. I'd say you have 2 years :)

That's not winning it's stupidity

Guess that depends on your perspective. If you see potential in dust keeping it alive at all costs is winning. I believe dust is inevitably going towards a quick failure - pulling the CCP super move that made eve sandbox won't ever work with the dust framework. It's not the devs fault; fps sandbox can only work with open world mechanics that allow the usage of numbers (planetside and dust mechanics cross bred into a sandbox with both depth and area).

The core fps game in dust is doomed to never reaching even mediocrity, because another game will do it better and all the competitive gamers will move there shortly.

EVE sandbox works, because spreadsheets are unhindered by bad core gameplay and lack of fluidity. An FPS game is unforgiving on those. EVE sandbox works because numbers matter and you have room for players of all skill levels in the blob. Dust 16vs16 battles are very unforgiving in that regard, letting average players in PC matches will decimate your morale and kill your alliance sooner or later.


Now, if you feel this is the case and consider dust a dying game, winning it in an uncontested way can make some sense. Take all of the sandbox and be remembered in the next game you move on to :)

like i was saying after i dropped out of betamax, PC is just a second job its not enjoyable and needs to go back to the drawing board. gameing is meant to be fun but its not PC is a second where only the A-team gets to take part so they burn out and everyone quits.

being back the modru trails fun back to EvE the game has gotten to serious business and its killing it, if i wanted EvE style **** i would go play EvE, all we want to do is shoot **** in the face, let the EvE empires worry about taking over stuff and just let us worry about what the next contract.

ALL WE WANT TO KNOW IS WHERE THE NEXT FIGHT IS.

its not a hard concept

Its all just the meta game







Or is it '

Congrats?

Beware this be some kind of master plan to make you think they stopped playing but are actually forming aome kind of defense.... or possibly awox NF..... but I doubt it.

Is the problem really that we are just moving away, a long way away, from the concept of Mercenaries?

We are now becoming little spaceholding corporations. There is almost no genuine 'hiring' of Mercenary forces, its just like little galactic empires fighting over stuff, repeatedly.

I just want to be a Mercenary, and have it mean something. Being stuck repeatedly fighting over timers for land we should have captured on behalf of someone else and then handed over to them, isn't it.

This isn't what modern mercenaries do.

dude! I want more fights! Your all a bunch of quitters. This will go on your permanent record!

Is the problem really that we are just moving away, a long way away, from the concept of Mercenaries?

We are now becoming little spaceholding corporations. There is almost no genuine 'hiring' of Mercenary forces, its just like little galactic empires fighting over stuff, repeatedly.

I just want to be a Mercenary, and have it mean something. Being stuck repeatedly fighting over timers for land we should have captured on behalf of someone else and then handed over to them, isn't it.

This isn't what modern mercenaries do.

I think the best move would be for all major corps to abandon their districts and allow smaller corps to take over an the larger corps can be actual corps who have skilled mercs who are hired by the small corps to protect their land. The larger corp or band of mercs would have no allegence to each other only isk. The benefits would include free weapons armor modules and vehicles for the hired mercs and the smaller corps wont have to be burdened with constantly trying to defend their districts. Also bragging rights and competiveness between the mercs within the larger corps would give them more incentive to play.

hindsight is a hell of a thing.
%100 on the button as far as I'm concerned, had been thinking the same about every increasing pack cost based on number of districts held, you are still open to dummy corps not sure what could be done about that.

I think if PC had gone out as CCP had intended (1 clone pack per a corp) things would have been more fun, with more corps involved, all the for want of a better term "super powers" would have slowly grown expanding through clone moves it would have been more strategy and you would natural reach you corps hold limit. battles would be along borders with maybe A teams going in for 4-6 jump attacks at ether low clones or having less left at home to defend.

as it is we don't need to think about stuff like that for the most part, if you want to attack a corp at their home all you have to do is spend some isk. there is no higher level of strategy you are simple choosing the scenery and that you want to fight proto.

we kinda only have are self to blame. so where now well ether CCP can patch in ether only one clone pack or ever increasing prices ASAP and see how that goes or wait and do it along with opening up more space, not sure which would be best. i would maybe even slow down the isk gen from PC to make pack attacking less attractive but that one im not sure about don't know how profitable it currently is or would be with 1 pack system

i would actually support this idea does sound fun and could help save this game

i would actually support this idea does sound fun and could help save this game

To bad CCP didn't put corp or players merc contracts into dust. Its like a 15 step process to get paid for mercing

going to draw more attention to the "PC is a Failure" thread but pacifically Deluxe Editions post and my reply


now the ASAP bit might keep CHONOS in the game but at this point probably not and I think we would be happy to wait til more land opened up and start again if at all, I think at lest trying PC with out clone packs is worth a shot.

Seems like a 3 step process to me idk why CCP has to lay everything out for people.

At this pace even corps that are winning will quit PC.

One hundred.
That's when I stopped counting SI's deployments into battle and that was some time ago. Now Cronos stands against everyone. A fight to hold the 35 districts we have is simply not sustainable and not something that would be good for us anyways.

The aim for Molden Heath was always to gain experience, have fun and gain some funds if possible and that we have done but the fun parts has certainly started to slip away 1 frame per second on each laggy battle. We are surrounded by enemy's all who have bent the knee to the Negative Feedback in fear.

We bent our knee to no one and never will so hold your heads high because **** isn't over (well maybe as a fat landlords lolz).

It's been one hell of an experience that's for sure and damn did we burn bright. Hell what was our record something like 17 CB's in 1 day?

It's been epic but it's time for a change.

We will be under sustained attacks until our last district is gone and thank **** to be honest its more work then a real job that's for sure. So from here on out we will defend the districts we feel like and use them to get some good fights as for the rest feel free to be heroes and enter any of them just to be a pain in the ass if you like.

Si will be moving on but in a way that lets up pick the when, where, and why of the fight.
Some of you might want to move on and be with the winning side and no hard feelings to you it's been a blast fighting with you and good luck but I can tell you this. I won't be an Imperfects pet it's just not for me.

Time to put some fun back in the game so chill have fun turn to the organized CBs if you like but mostly have a rest you earned it.

So ends chapter 1.
I think Seraphim's going to be a real pain in the ass next chapter so in a few weeks let's turn the page.

Sha K

(This message was forwarded to all of CRONOS)

I find it funny that the post shows that it was edited. You should really work on your propaganda. Stop being a rookie and pay attention to the fact that this is obviously a trolling post coming from someone (both individually and as a group) that cannot be trusted as for what comes from their collective mouthes.

While some points (as we are all aware of) may be true (i.e., the laggy PC matches that has driven a core of players across the board of DUST 514) I find it interesting on how you got this SUPPOSED Cronos email (funny Sha doesn't sign his emails like that) from and who's **** you had to suck to get it?

This seems to me to be another wasted place of space on the forums by yet another individual playing rookie PSYOP without ever looking at the manual. Great Job! (notice the sarcasm in that?!?!?) Why they let kids play this game is beyond me.

Hang on

So PC is opened up, day 1 CRONOS = massive land grab

They bragged about it because clicking on a button = skill

Eventually over time made enemies with everyone

Over more time CRONOS starts getting its **** pushed in big time and starts to lose more districts because they dont have the skill/players to cover all districts that they bought on day 1

So they pull out of PC altogether because they think everyone is with NF when in reality everyone is just against CRONOS and also blame it on massive amount of lag and low framerates which EVERY CORP IN PC HAS SUFFERED FROM


Pretty much sounds like they got beaten badly and have quit and run off to lick ther wounds

If you hadn't noticed SI have been holding 14% of Molden Heath - to an extent they have been winning and are quitting and to an extent winning again.

Guess it's soon time for my corp of 1 to take a district or 2. Won't be anyone left to stop me.

Pretty much spot on, except for the "think everyone is with NF" part.

You have that tinfoil hat on pretty tight

Anyway your not in SI, have you jumped ship in fear of it sinking?

You have that tinfoil hat on pretty tight

Anyway your not in SI, have you jumped ship in fear of it sinking?

It was long overdue in any case. I'm not gonna elaborate about it here on the forums

I'm backing out of PC and possibly Dust altogether. They say everyone gets lag in PC, and they do, I do however honesly believe that I'm mostly getting the short end of it. Its funny how I can shoot and shoot without anything happening and then I get more or less 1-shotted in return. I get stomped even by the guys I normally stomp in pub games where my bullets actually register....

The only thing holding me here is the ingame trolling I do with my RE's.

Here's what I find extremely amusing...

CRONOS bragged about taking all those districts Day 1. We were mocked for only taking two districts on Day 1. (hello dark cloud, where are you?)

We had a gameplan, they had one as well (it resembled STBs).

Now CRONOS is giving up all their districts without a fight and basically going to the plan NF had at the beginning.

Hold least amount possible and attack who we want...

Please stop copying us CRONOS.

Bad aim and having to compensate for lag is pretty hard huh?

Its impossible to compensate for my bullets not registering or when I lose half my hitpoints without any notice, creating the "1-shotted" effect that was so very frequent in MAG. Its nothing I can do about it short of playing it safe and camp moar, not my preffered way of playing.

I'm sorry Babar, but you're not getting lag any worse than anyone else, you just need to adjust to the lag.

EDIT: have you also considered you can beat those people in publics because they dgaf about pubs? I know I'm like that. even lordchaos manages to kill me a few times in pubs.

Hang on

So PC is opened up, day 1 CRONOS = massive land grab

They bragged about it because clicking on a button = skill

Eventually over time made enemies with everyone

Over more time CRONOS starts getting its **** pushed in big time and starts to lose more districts because they dont have the skill/players to cover all districts that they bought on day 1

So they pull out of PC altogether because they think everyone is with NF when in reality everyone is just against CRONOS and also blame it on massive amount of lag and low framerates which EVERY CORP IN PC HAS SUFFERED FROM


Pretty much sounds like they got beaten badly and have quit and run off to lick ther wounds

I'm sorry Babar, but you're not getting lag any worse than anyone else, you just need to adjust to the lag.

EDIT: have you also considered you can beat those people in publics because they dgaf about pubs? I know I'm like that. even lordchaos manages to kill me a few times in pubs.

Here's what I find extremely amusing...

CRONOS bragged about taking all those districts Day 1. We were mocked for only taking two districts on Day 1. (hello dark cloud, where are you?)

We had a gameplan, they had one as well (it resembled STBs).

Now CRONOS is giving up all their districts without a fight and basically going to the plan NF had at the beginning.

Hold least amount possible and attack who we want...

Please stop copying us CRONOS.

Here's what I find extremely amusing...

CRONOS bragged about taking all those districts Day 1. We were mocked for only taking two districts on Day 1. (hello dark cloud, where are you?)

We had a gameplan, they had one as well (it resembled STBs).

Now CRONOS is giving up all their districts without a fight and basically going to the plan NF had at the beginning.

Hold least amount possible and attack who we want...

Please stop copying us CRONOS.

Couldnt agreee more with VEXation Gunn's points on this game. Hell im gonna enjoy more freetime now. Hello summer and outside or shall I say, Hello real life

nerds...

Chronos has nobody to blame but themselves. They decided it would be a good idea to hold as many districts as they did..nobody else. Of course your going to get burnt out lol. Not to mention all the **** they talked to the community, the pioneering of AWOXING, and % of districts held put them on everyones radar. Sorry im not sorry that you guys got destroyed and are choosing to pull out of PC. Perhaps you should have thought about the moves you made both in game and on the forums before you did them.

What's destroying PC and the competitiveness of it are the Alliances. Removing alliances from the game entirely would mean that Corps would hold less districts because they cant field 16 players all throughout the day and do not have an alliance to fill those spots. Not to mention the amount of concentrated talent within the alliances would be spread out giving corps themselves an individual identity and a battle to be the best.

If there were a feature where we could 16v16 corp battle like their was in the last build..this game could get a ladder spot on gamebattles.com where wins/losses and overall rank among all registered corps could be tracked.

Is there anyone in Hellstorm who isn't a little biatch?

Says the OG nerd

Chronos has nobody to blame but themselves. They decided it would be a good idea to hold as many districts as they did..nobody else. Of course your going to get burnt out lol. Not to mention all the **** they talked to the community, the pioneering of AWOXING, and % of districts held put them on everyones radar. Sorry im not sorry that you guys got destroyed and are choosing to pull out of PC. Perhaps you should have thought about the moves you made both in game and on the forums before you did them.

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What's destroying PC and the competitiveness of it are the Alliances. Removing alliances from the game entirely would mean that Corps would hold less districts because they cant field 16 players all throughout the day and do not have an alliance to fill those spots. Not to mention the amount of concentrated talent within the alliances would be spread out giving corps themselves an individual identity and a battle to be the best.

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Didnt feel like typing it myself but this is so true. All these excuses of "PC is a job"... maybe you shouldn't of went out and taken the log in war so seriously and cap 50+ districts or whatever it was.

Theres flaws with PC dont get me wrong and a lot have been pointed out in this thread, but all the excuses about its a job, morale is gone, only can play an A Team... are all on you and whatever corp/alliance you apart of and all of these things have come from your own decisions.

I havn't once felt like PC is a job and my corp/alliance has(well was i guess now) been in a war since Day 1. Its called managing your districts,timers and having a capable Corporation.. not a capable 8-16 players, an entire corp so if you want to take day(s) off you can and your corp can still handle business.

We have EoN and LoI with us. everyone else is solodolo.

I find it funny that the post shows that it was edited. You should really work on your propaganda. Stop being a rookie and pay attention to the fact that this is obviously a trolling post coming from someone (both individually and as a group) that cannot be trusted as for what comes from their collective mouthes.

The idea of join/leaving corps many times a day and having to be accepted back just isn't doable. especially when you have players that have roles and have 24 cool down window. For this reason everyone uses alts to move isk.

lets look at how merc payments are done for imps given we normally do squads

- Merc alt applies to your corp
- Merc alt joins your corp
- Merc collects payment for all squad members
- Merc leaves corp
- Merc applies to "Kane's escrow" Corp
- Merc joins "Kane's escrow" corp to hold funds
- Merc gives isk to corp
- Merc send email saying who participated in battles and how much isk each get
- Merc alt leave corp
- Mercs get paid out from corp wallet


-Kain will send escrow alt from escrow corp every so many days to put isk back into corps wallet to balance isk that was paid to mercs.


This is a simple as we could make it. There were days that 10 different merc contracts were done. So you really think CCP doesn't need to give dust a very basic "Give isk" function?

ccp isn't going to add new districts because most of them are just being farmed and not actually fought over. Which is what ccp looks at. Like I said in another thread IMPS have been trying to get newer corps into PC to help the game. Most just don't want to be bothered with it.