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Gregor stormwalker wrote:

Deluxe Edition wrote:

Another point I would like to make is that PC isn't profitable for corps at all, it takes 18 days to recoup the isk spent. One suggestion is to increase the payout on districts so corp can recoup the starter pack money, however I don't think that is how CCP intended for PC to be fought. Starter packs where to get into PC and to expand you have to move clones. However the attrition rates on moving clones is simply too great especially considering how many districts are 2-3 jumps from the closest inhabitable system, and the low clone count leaves research facilities way to vulnerable to attack especially since transferring clones locks the district preventing the addition of new clones from a cargo hold in the same system.

CCP needs to minimize starter pack use (eg: by taking them away from corps who own districts, or by making the cost of them rise with every new district you take) and find ways to encourage attacking by moving clones.

hindsight is a hell of a thing.
%100 on the button as far as I'm concerned, had been thinking the same about every increasing pack cost based on number of districts held, you are still open to dummy corps not sure what could be done about that.

I think if PC had gone out as CCP had intended (1 clone pack per a corp) things would have been more fun, with more corps involved, all the for want of a better term "super powers" would have slowly grown expanding through clone moves it would have been more strategy and you would natural reach you corps hold limit. battles would be along borders with maybe A teams going in for 4-6 jump attacks at ether low clones or having less left at home to defend.

as it is we don't need to think about stuff like that for the most part, if you want to attack a corp at their home all you have to do is spend some isk. there is no higher level of strategy you are simple choosing the scenery and that you want to fight proto.

we kinda only have are self to blame. so where now well ether CCP can patch in ether only one clone pack or ever increasing prices ASAP and see how that goes or wait and do it along with opening up more space, not sure which would be best. i would maybe even slow down the isk gen from PC to make pack attacking less attractive but that one im not sure about don't know how profitable it currently is or would be with 1 pack system


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Gregor stormwalker Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 30	Posted - 2013.06.09 04:00:00 - [1] - Quote going to draw more attention to the "PC is a Failure" thread but pacifically Deluxe Editions post and my reply Gregor stormwalker wrote: Deluxe Edition wrote: Another point I would like to make is that PC isn't profitable for corps at all, it takes 18 days to recoup the isk spent. One suggestion is to increase the payout on districts so corp can recoup the starter pack money, however I don't think that is how CCP intended for PC to be fought. Starter packs where to get into PC and to expand you have to move clones. However the attrition rates on moving clones is simply too great especially considering how many districts are 2-3 jumps from the closest inhabitable system, and the low clone count leaves research facilities way to vulnerable to attack especially since transferring clones locks the district preventing the addition of new clones from a cargo hold in the same system. CCP needs to minimize starter pack use (eg: by taking them away from corps who own districts, or by making the cost of them rise with every new district you take) and find ways to encourage attacking by moving clones. hindsight is a hell of a thing. %100 on the button as far as I'm concerned, had been thinking the same about every increasing pack cost based on number of districts held, you are still open to dummy corps not sure what could be done about that. I think if PC had gone out as CCP had intended (1 clone pack per a corp) things would have been more fun, with more corps involved, all the for want of a better term "super powers" would have slowly grown expanding through clone moves it would have been more strategy and you would natural reach you corps hold limit. battles would be along borders with maybe A teams going in for 4-6 jump attacks at ether low clones or having less left at home to defend. as it is we don't need to think about stuff like that for the most part, if you want to attack a corp at their home all you have to do is spend some isk. there is no higher level of strategy you are simple choosing the scenery and that you want to fight proto. we kinda only have are self to blame. so where now well ether CCP can patch in ether only one clone pack or ever increasing prices ASAP and see how that goes or wait and do it along with opening up more space, not sure which would be best. i would maybe even slow down the isk gen from PC to make pack attacking less attractive but that one im not sure about don't know how profitable it currently is or would be with 1 pack system now the ASAP bit might keep CHONOS in the game but at this point probably not and I think we would be happy to wait til more land opened up and start again if at all, I think at lest trying PC with out clone packs is worth a shot.
Gregor stormwalker Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 30	Posted - 2013.06.09 16:15:00 - [2] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Hang on So PC is opened up, day 1 CRONOS = massive land grab They bragged about it because clicking on a button = skill Eventually over time made enemies with everyone Over more time CRONOS starts getting its **** pushed in big time and starts to lose more districts because they dont have the skill/players to cover all districts that they bought on day 1 So they pull out of PC altogether because they think everyone is with NF when in reality everyone is just against CRONOS and also blame it on massive amount of lag and low framerates which EVERY CORP IN PC HAS SUFFERED FROM Pretty much sounds like they got beaten badly and have quit and run off to lick ther wounds just my thoughts again not in leadership so take what you will, but we went in with a plan and day 1 everything went as we wanted, what i think we did not count on is just how much clone packs would play a role instead of having front lines, I'm not saying battles would have gone any other way but it would not just seem like a never ending battle across every planet with no strategy.