DUST Search - Battered Merc Syndrome: Cronos

trollsroyce wrote:

VEXation Gunn wrote:

trollsroyce wrote:

Solidify the win by taking all of the sandbox before the plug is pulled on dust. I'd say you have 2 years :)

That's not winning it's stupidity

Guess that depends on your perspective. If you see potential in dust keeping it alive at all costs is winning. I believe dust is inevitably going towards a quick failure - pulling the CCP super move that made eve sandbox won't ever work with the dust framework. It's not the devs fault; fps sandbox can only work with open world mechanics that allow the usage of numbers (planetside and dust mechanics cross bred into a sandbox with both depth and area).

The core fps game in dust is doomed to never reaching even mediocrity, because another game will do it better and all the competitive gamers will move there shortly.

EVE sandbox works, because spreadsheets are unhindered by bad core gameplay and lack of fluidity. An FPS game is unforgiving on those. EVE sandbox works because numbers matter and you have room for players of all skill levels in the blob. Dust 16vs16 battles are very unforgiving in that regard, letting average players in PC matches will decimate your morale and kill your alliance sooner or later.

Now, if you feel this is the case and consider dust a dying game, winning it in an uncontested way can make some sense. Take all of the sandbox and be remembered in the next game you move on to :)

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SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2437	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:37:00 - [1] - Quote One hundred. That's when I stopped counting SI's deployments into battle and that was some time ago. Now Cronos stands against everyone. A fight to hold the 35 districts we have is simply not sustainable and not something that would be good for us anyways. The aim for Molden HEath was always to gain experience, have fun and gain some funds if possible and that we have done but the fun parts has certainly started to slip away 1 frame per second on each laggy battle. We are surrounded by enemy's all who have bent the knee to the Negative Feedback in fear. We bent our knee to no one and never will so hold your heads high because ** isn't over (well maybe as a fat landlords lolz). It's been one hell of an experience that's for sure and damn did we burn bright. Hell what was our record something like 17 CB's in 1 day? It's been epic but it's time for a change. We will be under sustained attacks until our last district is gone and thank ** to be honest its more weak then a real job that's for sure. So from here on out we will defend the districts we feel like and use them to get some good fights as for the rest feel free to be heroes and enter any of them just to be a pain in the ass if you like. Si will be moving on but in a way that lets up pick the when, where, and why of the fight. Some of you might want to move on and be with the winning side and no hard feelings to you it's been a blast fighting with you and good luck but I can tell you this. I won't be an Imperfects pet it's just not for me. Time to put some fun back in the game so chill have fun turn to the organized CBs if you like but mostly have a rest you earned it. So ends chapter 1. I think Seraphim's going to be a real pain in the ass next chapter so in a few weeks let's turn the page. Sha K
Twisted202 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 54	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:41:00 - [2] - Quote Reversed that stereotype
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 947	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:41:00 - [3] - Quote He seriously posted that?
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2440	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:46:00 - [4] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: He seriously posted that? Yup
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 947	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:49:00 - [5] - Quote I'm glad he is willing to take the booty pillaging that awaits him.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2178	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:50:00 - [6] - Quote Disappointed.
VEXation Gunn Imperfects Negative-Feedback 91	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:50:00 - [7] - Quote So #OperationButtSex was successful even if there was very little actual butt sex. This is expected, yet disappointing all at once. Anyways Cheers cronos go have a beer and enjoy your freedom from this crap game
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2629	Posted - 2013.06.08 21:55:00 - [8] - Quote dude! I want more fights! Your all a bunch of quitters. This will go on your permanent record!
TYRlON LANNISTER Imperfects Negative-Feedback 17	Posted - 2013.06.08 22:02:00 - [9] - Quote The fact that SI is walking away from PC and possibly Dust shows they clearly they have won because so far they are the only ones to have truly beaten Dust and simply stop logging on. Kudos, im getting there myself.
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 277	Posted - 2013.06.08 22:08:00 - [10] - Quote Cronos quitting PC just goes to show that this game is in bad shape. PC was supposed to give this game longevity, but became one of the many disappointments with uprising.

VEXation Gunn Imperfects Negative-Feedback 94	Posted - 2013.06.08 22:09:00 - [11] - Quote TYRlON LANNISTER wrote: The fact that SI is walking away from PC and possibly Dust shows they clearly they have won because so far they are the only ones to have truly beaten Dust and simply stop logging on. Kudos, im getting there myself. Its said that "Not actually logging in is the only real way to win at Eve" Maybe this hold true for dust also. #OneUniverse?
2-Ton's Escrow Service Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 13	Posted - 2013.06.08 22:09:00 - [12] - Quote TYRlON LANNISTER wrote: The fact that SI is walking away from PC and possibly Dust shows they clearly they have won because so far they are the only ones to have truly beaten Dust and simply stop logging on. Kudos, im getting there myself. I have to agree, the novelty of PC as worn off, nothing left to prove and there was really little to gain in the first place.
Decimus the Feral Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.06.08 22:16:00 - [13] - Quote Well that was quick
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2629	Posted - 2013.06.08 22:18:00 - [14] - Quote Decimus the Feral wrote: Well that was quick Its all just the meta game Or is it '
Green Living PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 403	Posted - 2013.06.08 22:21:00 - [15] - Quote The last 100 hundred dudes that care about PC.
steadyhand amarr Amarr Immortal Volunteers 672	Posted - 2013.06.08 22:23:00 - [16] - Quote like i was saying after i dropped out of betamax, PC is just a second job its not enjoyable and needs to go back to the drawing board. gameing is meant to be fun but its not PC is a second where only the A-team gets to take part so they burn out and everyone quits. being back the modru trails fun back to EvE the game has gotten to serious business and its killing it, if i wanted EvE style ** i would go play EvE, all we want to do is shoot ** in the face, let the EvE empires worry about taking over stuff and just let us worry about what the next contract. ALL WE WANT TO KNOW IS WHERE THE NEXT FIGHT IS. its not a hard concept
Thin Sight Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 4	Posted - 2013.06.08 22:54:00 - [17] - Quote Summer time, Ladies, family, friends, holidays & Sun. Priories guys and girls.
VEXation Gunn Imperfects Negative-Feedback 98	Posted - 2013.06.08 23:04:00 - [18] - Quote Thin Sight wrote: Summer time, Ladies, family, friends, holidays & Sun. Priories guys and girls. #DustIsBad there is no real reason needed beyond that fact. /me goes to frig to get another beer then back to pool
Starfire Revo G I A N T EoN. 76	Posted - 2013.06.08 23:06:00 - [19] - Quote Holding more than a handful of key planets has always seemed a bit weird. Once there's some more/better EVE-Dust connectivity, you'll ideally want to hold the planets that can give the best bonuses. You could still attack people to try and bring in some money via sacked clones, but actually taking huge amounts of districts just seems like a bad plan. Hopefully this means the end of big blue donuts and more people actually getting into Planetary Conquest. Funny how that mimics Dust's older sister.
Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1078	Posted - 2013.06.08 23:13:00 - [20] - Quote Here's what I find extremely amusing... CRONOS bragged about taking all those districts Day 1. We were mocked for only taking two districts on Day 1. (hello dark cloud, where are you?) We had a gameplan, that had one as well (it resembled STBs). Now CRONOS is giving up all their districts without a fight and basically going to the plan NF had at the beginning. Hold least amount possible and attack who we want... Please stop copying us CRONOS.

XANDERBEE Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2013.06.08 23:22:00 - [21] - Quote This game went down hill quick once people were able to form corps with such a low player count. Gamers say they are a competitive bunch but in what other competition do you see your opponents looking for the cheapest and easiest win? They are quick to pick up OP items use glitches and group up into a protective bubble to keep them from losing. This game had less than 5000 thousand people during the closed beta tournament and this led to the best blueing up to roll the competition. Now with this game not growing in any significant way and more uncompetitive people join top corps to keep from losing, fun and challenging games have gone the way of the dodo. With a small player base and such an elitist attitude coming from the best, is it any wonder this game is failing hard? It is sad that some don't see that they are damaging this game more than benefiting it or they know and don't care ( why should they not their jobs or game on the line). This game would have gone much further if CCP focused on gameplay and not all this corp building and meta gaming. Now they have an in- depth game that isn't fun to play on the surface. You have corps bragging of being King **** of Poop Mountain because the player base is so small that there aren't enough competitive players that don't want to join the best and brag about being in a corp they joined that was already good with or without them. History will show that Dust 514 is how you don't make a video game.
Succendo Goonfeet 57	Posted - 2013.06.08 23:25:00 - [22] - Quote I am the only player in PC. Everyone else is an alt of mine.
Allah's Snackbar Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 83	Posted - 2013.06.08 23:26:00 - [23] - Quote Thin Sight wrote: Summer time, Ladies, family, friends, holidays & Sun. Priories guys and girls. Heh, I wonder what the odds are of anything changing for the better by the time you get back are?
trollsroyce Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 562	Posted - 2013.06.08 23:55:00 - [24] - Quote Personally (not speaking on behalf of the corp or alliance): I hold EoN in very high regard for stomping Orion out of Dust514 and getting the morale momentum to take all CRONOS US timed districts one by one. The loss of those districts made room for a morale drop which resulted in a cascading failure of morale, feeding worse battlefield performance. You are tough. I can't but help wonder though, are some in EoN leadership actually N-F plants? The coalition bonds seem surprisingly strong with all the talk of being unaffiliated from EoN. Will ROFL get ROFLstomped by the coalition next, or will ROFL and EoN join forces to deter N-F from the inevitable looking control of Molden Heath? In any case, well played to both EoN and N-F from my behalf.
VEXation Gunn Imperfects Negative-Feedback 101	Posted - 2013.06.09 00:03:00 - [25] - Quote trollsroyce wrote: Personally (not speaking on behalf of the corp or alliance): I hold EoN in very high regard for stomping Orion out of Dust514 and getting the morale momentum to take all CRONOS US timed districts one by one. The loss of those districts made room for a morale drop which resulted in a cascading failure of morale, feeding worse battlefield performance. You are tough. I can't but help wonder though, are some in EoN leadership actually N-F plants? The coalition bonds seem surprisingly strong with all the talk of being unaffiliated from EoN. Will ROFL get ROFLstomped by the coalition next, or will ROFL and EoN join forces to deter N-F from the inevitable looking control of Molden Heath? In any case, well played to both EoN and N-F from my behalf. So you are saying we won at dust? Sweet.... so now what do we do?
trollsroyce Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 563	Posted - 2013.06.09 00:16:00 - [26] - Quote Solidify the win by taking all of the sandbox before the plug is pulled on dust. I'd say you have 2 years :)
VEXation Gunn Imperfects Negative-Feedback 101	Posted - 2013.06.09 00:17:00 - [27] - Quote trollsroyce wrote: Solidify the win by taking all of the sandbox before the plug is pulled on dust. I'd say you have 2 years :) That's not winning it's stupidity
trollsroyce Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 563	Posted - 2013.06.09 00:36:00 - [28] - Quote VEXation Gunn wrote: trollsroyce wrote: Solidify the win by taking all of the sandbox before the plug is pulled on dust. I'd say you have 2 years :) That's not winning it's stupidity Guess that depends on your perspective. If you see potential in dust keeping it alive at all costs is winning. I believe dust is inevitably going towards a quick failure - pulling the CCP super move that made eve sandbox won't ever work with the dust framework. It's not the devs fault; fps sandbox can only work with open world mechanics that allow the usage of numbers (planetside and dust mechanics cross bred into a sandbox with both depth and area). The core fps game in dust is doomed to never reaching even mediocrity, because another game will do it better and all the competitive gamers will move there shortly. EVE sandbox works, because spreadsheets are unhindered by bad core gameplay and lack of fluidity. An FPS game is unforgiving on those. EVE sandbox works because numbers matter and you have room for players of all skill levels in the blob. Dust 16vs16 battles are very unforgiving in that regard, letting average players in PC matches will decimate your morale and kill your alliance sooner or later. Now, if you feel this is the case and consider dust a dying game, winning it in an uncontested way can make some sense. Take all of the sandbox and be remembered in the next game you move on to :)
VEXation Gunn Imperfects Negative-Feedback 104	Posted - 2013.06.09 00:44:00 - [29] - Quote trollsroyce wrote: VEXation Gunn wrote: trollsroyce wrote: Solidify the win by taking all of the sandbox before the plug is pulled on dust. I'd say you have 2 years :) That's not winning it's stupidity Guess that depends on your perspective. If you see potential in dust keeping it alive at all costs is winning. I believe dust is inevitably going towards a quick failure - pulling the CCP super move that made eve sandbox won't ever work with the dust framework. It's not the devs fault; fps sandbox can only work with open world mechanics that allow the usage of numbers (planetside and dust mechanics cross bred into a sandbox with both depth and area). The core fps game in dust is doomed to never reaching even mediocrity, because another game will do it better and all the competitive gamers will move there shortly. EVE sandbox works, because spreadsheets are unhindered by bad core gameplay and lack of fluidity. An FPS game is unforgiving on those. EVE sandbox works because numbers matter and you have room for players of all skill levels in the blob. Dust 16vs16 battles are very unforgiving in that regard, letting average players in PC matches will decimate your morale and kill your alliance sooner or later. Now, if you feel this is the case and consider dust a dying game, winning it in an uncontested way can make some sense. Take all of the sandbox and be remembered in the next game you move on to :) I think the imp perspective if pretty simple. We just want to be able to fight for stuff that matters and be rewarded for it. How PC is now is pretty much the opposite of that. If we fight and win we now have more districts... whooptyfkingDO. We can use those clones to attack or Farmville it. What does isk buy the corp or players that we can't already buy? Not a damn thing. Yes CCP made bad fps mechanics and it shows Yes CCP continues to make the rpg aspect of the 12 years of grinding for no good God Damned reason at all Yes CCP makes it impossible for new players to compete Yes CCP has promised and never ever delivered.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3444	Posted - 2013.06.09 00:58:00 - [30] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: like i was saying after i dropped out of betamax, PC is just a second job its not enjoyable and needs to go back to the drawing board. gameing is meant to be fun but its not PC is a second where only the A-team gets to take part so they burn out and everyone quits. being back the modru trails fun back to EvE the game has gotten to serious business and its killing it, if i wanted EvE style ** i would go play EvE, all we want to do is shoot ** in the face, let the EvE empires worry about taking over stuff and just let us worry about what the next contract. ALL WE WANT TO KNOW IS WHERE THE NEXT FIGHT IS. its not a hard concept ur in the wrong corp then



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