currently you have 2 options for taking out lav's. kill the driver or blow the thing up. fair enougth

well thats all well and good unless he is in a heavy suit weilding a heavy machinegun. shoot the driver and he has enougth ehp to just carry on regardless, blow the vehicle up and he just jumps out and kills the guy who blew it up then calls in a new free lav

heavys are meant to be slow heavy damage and lav's are meant to be fast with bad damage. combine the 2 and these things are damd near indestructable. i have dodged lav's many times only for a heavy to jump out and mow me down and then just jump back in and drive off looking for the next guy to run over.

i have no problem tbh with people running people over. we can jump behind walls, barriers, box's etc and the threat is minimised giving me an opportunity to either shoot the driver in his seat, when he switches to turrets or when he dismounts or he just drives off. but when a heavy does this he always has the upperhand. he stays mounted and drives away, he jumps on the turret and fires back with relatively no risk due to high ehp or he dismounts and kills you with his heavy machinegun. if your a heavy yourself he mows you down by ramming you as you cant dodge nothing. if your in any other suit then your just dead either way.

there is a big imballance there which needs to be fixed somehow.

my suggestion is make heavys unable to drive any type of vehicle. they would then have to rely on others to speed them across the map and drop them off. they should not be allowed to 1 man army their way through every game

No, Heavies should still be allowed to drive, though I do think it would be a good idea to have the weight of their added armor slow down the LAV.

Make it cumulative too, one Heavy should slow it down a little, three should make a significantly noticeable difference.

I use this combo and it's very effective. For players that are dodgy. No one can survive a heavy 1vs1.

currently you have 2 options for taking out lav's. kill the driver or blow the thing up. fair enougth

well thats all well and good unless he is in a heavy suit weilding a heavy machinegun. shoot the driver and he has enougth ehp to just carry on regardless, blow the vehicle up and he just jumps out and kills the guy who blew it up then calls in a new free lav

heavys are meant to be slow heavy damage and lav's are meant to be fast with bad damage. combine the 2 and these things are damd near indestructable. i have dodged lav's many times only for a heavy to jump out and mow me down and then just jump back in and drive off looking for the next guy to run over.

i have no problem tbh with people running people over. we can jump behind walls, barriers, box's etc and the threat is minimised giving me an opportunity to either shoot the driver in his seat, when he switches to turrets or when he dismounts or he just drives off. but when a heavy does this he always has the upperhand. he stays mounted and drives away, he jumps on the turret and fires back with relatively no risk due to high ehp or he dismounts and kills you with his heavy machinegun. if your a heavy yourself he mows you down by ramming you as you cant dodge nothing. if your in any other suit then your just dead either way.

there is a big imballance there which needs to be fixed somehow.

my suggestion is make heavys unable to drive any type of vehicle. they would then have to rely on others to speed them across the map and drop them off. they should not be allowed to 1 man army their way through every game

Of course you use this method, you adapted to the range limitation.

I use this combo and it's very effective. For players that are dodgy. No one can survive a heavy 1vs1.

Cept a scout standing right next to you, gotta love that turn speed eh? ;)

my suggestion is make heavys unable to drive any type of vehicle. they would then have to rely on others to speed them across the map and drop them off. they should not be allowed to 1 man army their way through every game

i just want some ballance. previously you had long range/high dps and then they nerfed the range so you all jumped into lav's to get in close. thats fair enough

but when people just roam around in lav's with an aim to run people over and then if they cant they just dismount that high dps at close range then there is no ballance.a player can spec to take out a vehicle or spec to take out a heavy but you cant spec to take out both at the same time unless your a heavy yourself. in that case your likely to be run over or shot while your reloading. if i fire swarm at you and av grenades you know im antitank spec so you just dismount and mow me down because i have no dps against heavy. if i shoot at you with anything else you still dismount and mow me down because im still at a disadvantage no matter the situation.

currently you have 2 options for taking out lav's. kill the driver or blow the thing up. fair enougth

well thats all well and good unless he is in a heavy suit weilding a heavy machinegun. shoot the driver and he has enougth ehp to just carry on regardless, blow the vehicle up and he just jumps out and kills the guy who blew it up then calls in a new free lav

heavys are meant to be slow heavy damage and lav's are meant to be fast with bad damage. combine the 2 and these things are damd near indestructable. i have dodged lav's many times only for a heavy to jump out and mow me down and then just jump back in and drive off looking for the next guy to run over.

i have no problem tbh with people running people over. we can jump behind walls, barriers, box's etc and the threat is minimised giving me an opportunity to either shoot the driver in his seat, when he switches to turrets or when he dismounts or he just drives off. but when a heavy does this he always has the upperhand. he stays mounted and drives away, he jumps on the turret and fires back with relatively no risk due to high ehp or he dismounts and kills you with his heavy machinegun. if your a heavy yourself he mows you down by ramming you as you cant dodge nothing. if your in any other suit then your just dead either way.

there is a big imballance there which needs to be fixed somehow.

my suggestion is make heavys unable to drive any type of vehicle. they would then have to rely on others to speed them across the map and drop them off. they should not be allowed to 1 man army their way through every game

Heavies want balance too. You think we enjoy that our HMG bullets magically disappear after 20m? Lol

i just want some ballance. previously you had long range/high dps and then they nerfed the range so you all jumped into lav's to get in close. thats fair enough

Why do we even still have FREE LAVs? Aren't we past the point where players can either spec into them or buy their own darn militia LAVs?

currently you have 2 options for taking out lav's. kill the driver or blow the thing up. fair enougth

well thats all well and good unless he is in a heavy suit weilding a heavy machinegun. shoot the driver and he has enougth ehp to just carry on regardless, blow the vehicle up and he just jumps out and kills the guy who blew it up then calls in a new free lav

heavys are meant to be slow heavy damage and lav's are meant to be fast with bad damage. combine the 2 and these things are damd near indestructable. i have dodged lav's many times only for a heavy to jump out and mow me down and then just jump back in and drive off looking for the next guy to run over.

i have no problem tbh with people running people over. we can jump behind walls, barriers, box's etc and the threat is minimised giving me an opportunity to either shoot the driver in his seat, when he switches to turrets or when he dismounts or he just drives off. but when a heavy does this he always has the upperhand. he stays mounted and drives away, he jumps on the turret and fires back with relatively no risk due to high ehp or he dismounts and kills you with his heavy machinegun. if your a heavy yourself he mows you down by ramming you as you cant dodge nothing. if your in any other suit then your just dead either way.

there is a big imballance there which needs to be fixed somehow.

my suggestion is make heavys unable to drive any type of vehicle. they would then have to rely on others to speed them across the map and drop them off. they should not be allowed to 1 man army their way through every game

currently you have 2 options for taking out lav's. kill the driver or blow the thing up. fair enougth

well thats all well and good unless he is in a heavy suit weilding a heavy machinegun. shoot the driver and he has enougth ehp to just carry on regardless, blow the vehicle up and he just jumps out and kills the guy who blew it up then calls in a new free lav

heavys are meant to be slow heavy damage and lav's are meant to be fast with bad damage. combine the 2 and these things are damd near indestructable. i have dodged lav's many times only for a heavy to jump out and mow me down and then just jump back in and drive off looking for the next guy to run over.

i have no problem tbh with people running people over. we can jump behind walls, barriers, box's etc and the threat is minimised giving me an opportunity to either shoot the driver in his seat, when he switches to turrets or when he dismounts or he just drives off. but when a heavy does this he always has the upperhand. he stays mounted and drives away, he jumps on the turret and fires back with relatively no risk due to high ehp or he dismounts and kills you with his heavy machinegun. if your a heavy yourself he mows you down by ramming you as you cant dodge nothing. if your in any other suit then your just dead either way.

there is a big imballance there which needs to be fixed somehow.

my suggestion is make heavys unable to drive any type of vehicle. they would then have to rely on others to speed them across the map and drop them off. they should not be allowed to 1 man army their way through every game

@DJINN Nukem

I actually want you Heavies to be significantly buffed, I just want it done with some logic.

heavys are meant to be slow heavy damage and lav's are meant to be fast with bad damage. combine the 2 and these things are damd near indestructable. i have dodged lav's many times only for a heavy to jump out and mow me down and then just jump back in and drive off looking for the next guy to run over.

i just want some ballance. previously you had long range/high dps and then they nerfed the range so you all jumped into lav's to get in close. thats fair enough

but when people just roam around in lav's with an aim to run people over and then if they cant they just dismount that high dps at close range then there is no ballance.a player can spec to take out a vehicle or spec to take out a heavy but you cant spec to take out both at the same time unless your a heavy yourself. in that case your likely to be run over or shot while your reloading. if i fire swarm at you and av grenades you know im antitank spec so you just dismount and mow me down because i have no dps against heavy. if i shoot at you with anything else you still dismount and mow me down because im still at a disadvantage no matter the situation.

I agree with the OP completely. The disadvantage of the heavy => mobility. A LAV means they effectively have no disadvantage. Last build before all the super LAV roadkill bullsht this was a problem (known as murder taxi), now it's even worse and murder taxi means roadkills now. How do you people not see the imbalance here?

I hate dealing with heavy suits, but it isn't very fair to expect them to hoof it to and form every objective.

make dead bodies do damage to these jeeps. I'm sure there's lots of armor on these jeeps, but we aren't talking about hitting a squishy pedestrian. These are clones wearing hundreds of pounds of armor themselves. They should mess up a LAV in a manner perhaps not dissimilar to a deer hitting your car. The deer may die, but it usually does a good amount of damage to the car.

i did not get hatemail sadly

that wouldv been the best part....

i just want some ballance. previously you had long range/high dps and then they nerfed the range so you all jumped into lav's to get in close. thats fair enough

but when people just roam around in lav's with an aim to run people over and then if they cant they just dismount that high dps at close range then there is no ballance.a player can spec to take out a vehicle or spec to take out a heavy but you cant spec to take out both at the same time unless your a heavy yourself. in that case your likely to be run over or shot while your reloading. if i fire swarm at you and av grenades you know im antitank spec so you just dismount and mow me down because i have no dps against heavy. if i shoot at you with anything else you still dismount and mow me down because im still at a disadvantage no matter the situation.

Honestly, I think the issue is LAV HP. Plenty of Heavies used the Battle Segway (ALL HAIL THE BATTLE SEGWAY!) to get into range prior to the LAV HP buff and it worked just fine.

The danger was that you had to get close enough to spew bullets, but to be damn careful about someone popping you with AV nades or something on the way in.

With the free LAVs as built up as they are now, you can just roll all over the map until you find someone who's good at dodging your bumper and then pop out and mow him down.


Full disclaimer: I am and people in my "Heavy heavy" corp are contributing to this problem. Nixnova in particular is heavy specced and plays this game like it's Grand Theft Auto. The lower tiers of LAVs probably need their HP tweaked back in the direction they came from.

currently you have 2 options for taking out lav's. kill the driver or blow the thing up. fair enougth

well thats all well and good unless he is in a heavy suit weilding a heavy machinegun. shoot the driver and he has enougth ehp to just carry on regardless, blow the vehicle up and he just jumps out and kills the guy who blew it up then calls in a new free lav

heavys are meant to be slow heavy damage and lav's are meant to be fast with bad damage. combine the 2 and these things are damd near indestructable. i have dodged lav's many times only for a heavy to jump out and mow me down and then just jump back in and drive off looking for the next guy to run over.

i have no problem tbh with people running people over. we can jump behind walls, barriers, box's etc and the threat is minimised giving me an opportunity to either shoot the driver in his seat, when he switches to turrets or when he dismounts or he just drives off. but when a heavy does this he always has the upperhand. he stays mounted and drives away, he jumps on the turret and fires back with relatively no risk due to high ehp or he dismounts and kills you with his heavy machinegun. if your a heavy yourself he mows you down by ramming you as you cant dodge nothing. if your in any other suit then your just dead either way.

there is a big imballance there which needs to be fixed somehow.

my suggestion is make heavys unable to drive any type of vehicle. they would then have to rely on others to speed them across the map and drop them off. they should not be allowed to 1 man army their way through every game

This threads a joke and OP should feel bad. "Oh no - heavies now have a way to get to me!" Lol

honestly you guys crying "nerf the heavy!!" had this coming, you killed their effectiveness from mid to long range now they are adapting and finding way to still do their job, this wouldn't be happening if you assaulters didn't whine about what you think heavies should be used for. so now what, your going to take away their ability to kill close range just because there doing what you said they should be doing along with their own adaptation and not what yours?

oohh irony

This threads a joke and OP should feel bad. "Oh no - heavies now have a way to get to me!" Lol