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Aetos Vahara Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.06 16:54:00 - [1] - Quote Even though they're going to fix the Armor Tanking for Gallente (here,) I honestly don't think they should have armor tanking at all due to the cosmetic appearance they have unless they bring in the placeholder heavy for Gallente. It should really belong to the Amarr. I think Gallente should have moderate shielding like the Caldari with speed like the Minmatar, but not armor. The Gallente armors look scrawny, however sleek they look. Maybe give them higher armor repairer instead of armor bonus. My first character is a Gallente and I love him, but I think it's a silly idea being heavily armored while running around in a thin suit.
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 103	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:00:00 - [2] - Quote You're so silly!
Striker Battalion Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:02:00 - [3] - Quote Mass doesn't always equal strength, impact resistance, or penetration resistance. In this day and age advanced compounds can provide better results with less space and materials used than old style "mass" type protections. It may be that the Gallente are more advanced in this area than the other factions.
Aetos Vahara Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:02:00 - [4] - Quote Zekain K wrote: You're so silly! Wow, thank you for the brilliant input! I just learned something new!
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 147	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:04:00 - [5] - Quote its fine nothing matters that much to change 1 vehicles stats because it doesn`t look right.
Denak Kalamari BurgezzE.T.F 178	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:04:00 - [6] - Quote You obviously have not played EVE Online at all, let me give you a quick breakdown: Gallente ships are designed to have really strong armor but not very much in terms of hitpoints, focusing on armor hardeners and the like. Caldari focus on shields, having a lot and quite strong shields on their ships. Amarr focus on having a ****-ton of armor but not much resistance. Minmatar are the mid-ground, being able to do a little bit of everything.
Aetos Vahara Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:05:00 - [7] - Quote Striker Battalion wrote: Mass doesn't always equal strength, impact resistance, or penetration resistance. In this day and age advanced compounds can provide better results with less space and materials used than old style "mass" type protections. It may be that the Gallente are more advanced in this area than the other factions. How can that be? The Amarr is the oldest and the most advanced race in EVE, so therefore they should have this technology too.
Aisha Ctarl The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 208	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:10:00 - [8] - Quote Aetos Vahara wrote: Striker Battalion wrote: Mass doesn't always equal strength, impact resistance, or penetration resistance. In this day and age advanced compounds can provide better results with less space and materials used than old style "mass" type protections. It may be that the Gallente are more advanced in this area than the other factions. How can that be? The Amarr is the oldest and the most advanced race in EVE, so therefore they should have this technology too. Exactly, and for some reason we also get a speed and movement penalty to make us even slower if we decide to run plates.
Aetos Vahara Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:11:00 - [9] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: You obviously have not played EVE Online at all, let me give you a quick breakdown: Gallente ships are designed to have really strong armor but not very much in terms of hitpoints, focusing on armor hardeners and the like. Caldari focus on shields, having a lot and quite strong shields on their ships. Amarr focus on having a ****-ton of armor but not much resistance. Minmatar are the mid-ground, being able to do a little bit of everything. I guess that makes sense now. Gallente has armor, but low HP and therefore can die when the armor is penetrated. Amarr has more HP and that makes them more like the Paladins.
Corpse Raider Hateocracy2 6	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:13:00 - [10] - Quote Gallente have always been the main armour tankers in New Eden. Their equipment also has the most 'organic' design. Bulk doesn't always correspond to mass, they could be using high density materials. Amarr has more 'flamboyant' design, but don't let the bulky heavy suit confuse you. Currently the only heavy suit in the game is Amarr design. The other racial variants will be released eventually. Gallente heavy will be an armour beast.

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3438	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:14:00 - [11] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Aetos Vahara wrote: Striker Battalion wrote: Mass doesn't always equal strength, impact resistance, or penetration resistance. In this day and age advanced compounds can provide better results with less space and materials used than old style "mass" type protections. It may be that the Gallente are more advanced in this area than the other factions. How can that be? The Amarr is the oldest and the most advanced race in EVE, so therefore they should have this technology too. Exactly, and for some reason we also get a speed and movement penalty to make us even slower if we decide to run plates. Yea but you're also a bunch of religious nutters who will do anything in the name of your God....being fat and slow is a tribute and an honor
Aetos Vahara Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:15:00 - [12] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Aetos Vahara wrote: Striker Battalion wrote: Mass doesn't always equal strength, impact resistance, or penetration resistance. In this day and age advanced compounds can provide better results with less space and materials used than old style "mass" type protections. It may be that the Gallente are more advanced in this area than the other factions. How can that be? The Amarr is the oldest and the most advanced race in EVE, so therefore they should have this technology too. Exactly, and for some reason we also get a speed and movement penalty to make us even slower if we decide to run plates. I see your point and I find it unfair now, which makes me question the Gallente even more. The Gallente gets to run around with no movement penalty and they're the armor tankers? This should be fixed.
Aisha Ctarl The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 210	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:19:00 - [13] - Quote Aetos Vahara wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Aetos Vahara wrote: Striker Battalion wrote: Mass doesn't always equal strength, impact resistance, or penetration resistance. In this day and age advanced compounds can provide better results with less space and materials used than old style "mass" type protections. It may be that the Gallente are more advanced in this area than the other factions. How can that be? The Amarr is the oldest and the most advanced race in EVE, so therefore they should have this technology too. Exactly, and for some reason we also get a speed and movement penalty to make us even slower if we decide to run plates. I see your point and I find it unfair now, which makes me question the Gallente even more. The Gallente gets to run around with no movement penalty and they're the armor tankers? This should be fixed. Someone finally understands what I've been trying to get at! That is my point EXACTLY - the Gallente are also armor tankers yet they get NO speed penalty. Yes, we Amarr have a higher base armor HP value of 180, but we get a speed penalty slapped on us while the Gallenteans get to sprint around all over the place.
Val'herik Dorn SyNergy Gaming EoN. 607	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:19:00 - [14] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: You obviously have not played EVE Online at all, let me give you a quick breakdown: Gallente ships are designed to have really strong armor but not very much in terms of hitpoints, focusing on armor hardeners and the like. Caldari focus on shields, having a lot and quite strong shields on their ships. Amarr focus on having a ****-ton of armor but not much resistance. Minmatar are the mid-ground, being able to do a little bit of everything. Amarr focuses on kittenloads of armor with high resists. Gallente focus on moderate armor but high reps.
Rynx Sinfar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 797	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:31:00 - [15] - Quote this was preordained long long ago, before dust514 was even a cell in someone's pants.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1786	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:34:00 - [16] - Quote Oldest, yes. Most advanced, no, actually, they've advanced very little. Caldari and Gallenet have advanced far more, and Gallente advanced the most out of those two.
Lilah Silverstone The Arrow Project 65	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:39:00 - [17] - Quote Pretty sure Amarr are the most advanced anyway the rundown. Gallente: active armour tanking + high close range damage + drones Caldari: Passive shield tanking (buffer) + rails and missiles typically long range Minmatar: active shield or any other form of protection + projectiles ( variable damage types wide array of ranges) + speed Amarr: Armor buffer + high resists + lasers Edit: Amarr passive armour > Gallente passive armour but gallente get speed and higher damage potential as well as better burst tank Caldari passive shield > minmatar passive shield but minmatar get speed and overall are much more dynamic
Zauis Gallente Net Warriors Z 5	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:48:00 - [18] - Quote Aetos Vahara wrote: Even though they're going to fix the Armor Tanking for Gallente (here,) I honestly don't think they should have armor tanking at all due to the cosmetic appearance they have unless they bring in the placeholder heavy for Gallente. It should really belong to the Amarr. I think Gallente should have moderate shielding like the Caldari with speed like the Minmatar, but not armor. The Gallente armors look scrawny, however sleek they look. Maybe give them higher armor repairer instead of armor bonus. My first character is a Gallente and I love him, but I think it's a silly idea being heavily armored while running around in a thin suit. Biased much? What will Gallente have left if you take away their specialty? Your suggestion of rendering them mediocre is preposterous.
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Orion Empire 34	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:52:00 - [19] - Quote I kind of agree however: gallente is def armor tanked but they should be more gank/spank than tank. Amarr should ne more tank than gank.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens 152	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:53:00 - [20] - Quote Aetos Vahara wrote: Even though they're going to fix the Armor Tanking for Gallente (here,) I honestly don't think they should have armor tanking at all due to the cosmetic appearance they have unless they bring in the placeholder heavy for Gallente. It should really belong to the Amarr. I think Gallente should have moderate shielding like the Caldari with speed like the Minmatar, but not armor. The Gallente armors look scrawny, however sleek they look. Maybe give them higher armor repairer instead of armor bonus. My first character is a Gallente and I love him, but I think it's a silly idea being heavily armored while running around in a thin suit. You must hate my people :I

iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 609	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:54:00 - [21] - Quote Aetos Vahara wrote: Striker Battalion wrote: Mass doesn't always equal strength, impact resistance, or penetration resistance. In this day and age advanced compounds can provide better results with less space and materials used than old style "mass" type protections. It may be that the Gallente are more advanced in this area than the other factions. How can that be? The Amarr is the oldest and the most advanced race in EVE, so therefore they should have this technology too. The Amarr were the first revived race to emerge. Meaning they had went into the dark ages and then came back. There are several other races most of which are extinct that exist before then. One of which are the Jove. The Amarr are traditionalists and anachronistic. While they should be the most technologically advanced, they arn't because of thier traditions. In the same way the chinese culture existed unchanged for approximately 2000 years, and had a level of social sophistication millenia ahead of the west (we were litterally still living in mud huts), and yet never never discovered how to make glass.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1410	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:54:00 - [22] - Quote Infantry should have access to nanifibre plates, or whatever they're called. That's a class of armor for vehicles- it doesn't add as much to your armor as regular plates, but it doesn't slow you down as much (actually, I'm not sure if those ones slow you down at all)
Michael Cratar Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 206	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:02:00 - [23] - Quote Aetos Vahara wrote: Even though they're going to fix the Armor Tanking for Gallente (here,) I honestly don't think they should have armor tanking at all due to the cosmetic appearance they have unless they bring in the placeholder heavy for Gallente. It should really belong to the Amarr. I think Gallente should have moderate shielding like the Caldari with speed like the Minmatar, but not armor. The Gallente armors look scrawny, however sleek they look. Maybe give them higher armor repairer instead of armor bonus. My first character is a Gallente and I love him, but I think it's a silly idea being heavily armored while running around in a thin suit. Please go back to your corner now.
Aetos Vahara Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:04:00 - [24] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Aetos Vahara wrote: Even though they're going to fix the Armor Tanking for Gallente (here,) I honestly don't think they should have armor tanking at all due to the cosmetic appearance they have unless they bring in the placeholder heavy for Gallente. It should really belong to the Amarr. I think Gallente should have moderate shielding like the Caldari with speed like the Minmatar, but not armor. The Gallente armors look scrawny, however sleek they look. Maybe give them higher armor repairer instead of armor bonus. My first character is a Gallente and I love him, but I think it's a silly idea being heavily armored while running around in a thin suit. You must hate my people :I, even though our suits are "tight" our bodies are covered more than the Caldari, the Caldari seem to have Cloth under their armor plates. Although I believe the Gallente suit should look like the 2nd suit in this image http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/battlesuits.jpg. I don't hate the Gallente. In fact, I love the Gallente passionately. Gallente is #1 and Amarr is #2 for me. But I still think it's wrong for the Gallente to have superior armor bonuses. Even when playing as one, I still feel funny when others try to take me down and I'm still standing. If I role-play as one in a RPG, I will remove the armor bonuses and add some other stats to even it out. Having armored ships and tanks for Gallente is fine, but not for Gallente characters.
Xender17 Intrepidus XI 149	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:06:00 - [25] - Quote Aetos Vahara wrote: Even though they're going to fix the Armor Tanking for Gallente (here,) I honestly don't think they should have armor tanking at all due to the cosmetic appearance they have unless they bring in the placeholder heavy for Gallente. It should really belong to the Amarr. I think Gallente should have moderate shielding like the Caldari with speed like the Minmatar, but not armor. The Gallente armors look scrawny, however sleek they look. Maybe give them higher armor repairer instead of armor bonus. My first character is a Gallente and I love him, but I think it's a silly idea being heavily armored while running around in a thin suit. they are BUFFING armor tanks?!?!?!?!? What about shield tanks? They are second grade against whats suppose to be their equal. Also they are meant to be faster but obviously there is no difference.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1788	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:10:00 - [26] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Aetos Vahara wrote: Even though they're going to fix the Armor Tanking for Gallente (here,) I honestly don't think they should have armor tanking at all due to the cosmetic appearance they have unless they bring in the placeholder heavy for Gallente. It should really belong to the Amarr. I think Gallente should have moderate shielding like the Caldari with speed like the Minmatar, but not armor. The Gallente armors look scrawny, however sleek they look. Maybe give them higher armor repairer instead of armor bonus. My first character is a Gallente and I love him, but I think it's a silly idea being heavily armored while running around in a thin suit. they are BUFFING armor tanks?!?!?!?!? What about shield tanks? They are second grade against whats suppose to be their equal. Also they are meant to be faster but obviously there is no difference. Infantry
BL4CKST4R WarRavens 153	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:13:00 - [27] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Aetos Vahara wrote: Even though they're going to fix the Armor Tanking for Gallente (here,) I honestly don't think they should have armor tanking at all due to the cosmetic appearance they have unless they bring in the placeholder heavy for Gallente. It should really belong to the Amarr. I think Gallente should have moderate shielding like the Caldari with speed like the Minmatar, but not armor. The Gallente armors look scrawny, however sleek they look. Maybe give them higher armor repairer instead of armor bonus. My first character is a Gallente and I love him, but I think it's a silly idea being heavily armored while running around in a thin suit. they are BUFFING armor tanks?!?!?!?!? What about shield tanks? They are second grade against whats suppose to be their equal. Also they are meant to be faster but obviously there is no difference. Infantry tanking, as in the little people tanks run over.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 303	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:15:00 - [28] - Quote Read the description. Gallente have access to the best armor systems in the cluster. Best doesn't always mean bigger and badder, it also means more compact and lightweight. Also, this design distributes the force of the impact accross the suit, allowing for armor to take more blows in comparison to just plain mass.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens 153	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:17:00 - [29] - Quote Aetos Vahara wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Aetos Vahara wrote: Even though they're going to fix the Armor Tanking for Gallente (here,) I honestly don't think they should have armor tanking at all due to the cosmetic appearance they have unless they bring in the placeholder heavy for Gallente. It should really belong to the Amarr. I think Gallente should have moderate shielding like the Caldari with speed like the Minmatar, but not armor. The Gallente armors look scrawny, however sleek they look. Maybe give them higher armor repairer instead of armor bonus. My first character is a Gallente and I love him, but I think it's a silly idea being heavily armored while running around in a thin suit. You must hate my people :I, even though our suits are "tight" our bodies are covered more than the Caldari, the Caldari seem to have Cloth under their armor plates. Although I believe the Gallente suit should look like the 2nd suit in this image http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/battlesuits.jpg. I don't hate the Gallente. In fact, I love the Gallente passionately. Gallente is #1 and Amarr is #2 for me. But I still think it's wrong for the Gallente to have superior armor bonuses. Even when playing as one, I still feel funny when others try to take me down and I'm still standing. If I role-play as one in a RPG, I will remove the armor bonuses and add some other stats to even it out. Having armored ships and tanks for Gallente is fine, but not for Gallente characters. I love the Gallente also, but I don't think they should suffer even more just to be more "realistic" because of how their suit looks, if that's the case then change how it looks. The Gallente suits are already the weakest suits and what your suggesting is to make them weaker. Also the image on my post came from this thread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=69066, which assuming Iron Wolf Saber is correct it is a concept art image for Dust 514.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens 155	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:20:00 - [30] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: Read the description. Gallente have access to the best armor systems in the cluster. Best doesn't always mean bigger and badder, it also means more compact and lightweight. Also, this design distributes the force of the impact accross the suit, allowing for armor to take more blows in comparison to just plain mass. Also the Gallente have a thing with organic looking things, who is not to say that the suit they wear is made from an unknown organic compound, it has been shown that some organic compounds, more specifically carbon bonded compounds, have the possibility of being stronger than steel but a lot lighter and a lot thinner. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene <-- Maybe Gallente suits are made of this... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullerene <-- Bucky ball compound loved hearing about this one in organic chemistry :)



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