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Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:11:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:The solution to paper : scissors.
You are welcome. When scissors cost ISK and paper is free, paper is OP. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.09 05:55:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Duran Lex wrote:The solution to paper : scissors.
You are welcome. When scissors cost ISK and paper is free, paper is OP.
^ war on mlt gear. So pointless. It's the roadkills that are the problem. |
Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.09 22:26:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Duran Lex wrote:The solution to paper : scissors.
You are welcome. When scissors cost ISK and paper is free, paper is OP. ^ war on mlt gear. So pointless. It's the roadkills that are the problem. And the fact that the MLT LAV is free is what is causing the roadkill problem. Lack of loss for the destruction of an asset IS THE PROBLEM. Add loss to the equation and everything else will work itself out. |
Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:21:00 -
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Jammer Jalapeno
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:27:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Charge ISK for LAVs. Once you get out of academy, all vehicles should cost ISK. They charge for MLT tanks so why are MLT LAVs still free in the game? Get'em outta here. Free suits and whatever BPOs you have is all that should be ISK free. It is silly that a vehicle would just be given to someone with no repercussions in the EVE universe.
And if someone brings up noobships, well that is a different game where you need a ship. In Dust drop suits are the IBIS, Impairor, Velator and Reaper. Sniper, Medic, Assault and AV. No need for a free LAV.
Boo Hoo
Get some AV grenades...free 90 points / LAV
Plus an additional 50 for every passenger |
Schalac 17
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:47:00 -
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Jammer Jalapeno wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Charge ISK for LAVs. Once you get out of academy, all vehicles should cost ISK. They charge for MLT tanks so why are MLT LAVs still free in the game? Get'em outta here. Free suits and whatever BPOs you have is all that should be ISK free. It is silly that a vehicle would just be given to someone with no repercussions in the EVE universe.
And if someone brings up noobships, well that is a different game where you need a ship. In Dust drop suits are the IBIS, Impairor, Velator and Reaper. Sniper, Medic, Assault and AV. No need for a free LAV. Boo Hoo Get some AV grenades...free 90 points / LAV Plus an additional 50 for every passenger How about you pay ISK for your LAV instead. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.11 03:33:00 -
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Can ADV/PRO packed/standard AV nades OHK a MLT or poorly fit STD LAV?
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Esper Shadows
Savage Arms INC
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Posted - 2013.06.11 03:50:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Duran Lex wrote:The solution to paper : scissors.
You are welcome. When scissors cost ISK and paper is free, paper is OP.
BPO militia anti-armor suit can 2-shot BPO militia LAVs easily. Both are free. So, yes you too can use free $hit to blow up free $hit.
Death taxis have obvious weaknesses, but instead of spawning with AV to match the LAV you're up against, you come to the forums and whine to CCP for a nerf.
Starting to think it might be better if CCP didn't listen to players. Sheesh. |
Esper Shadows
Savage Arms INC
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Posted - 2013.06.11 03:53:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:Can ADV/PRO packed/standard AV nades OHK a MLT or poorly fit STD LAV?
Easily. |
Jammer Jalapeno
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:22:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Jammer Jalapeno wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Charge ISK for LAVs. Once you get out of academy, all vehicles should cost ISK. They charge for MLT tanks so why are MLT LAVs still free in the game? Get'em outta here. Free suits and whatever BPOs you have is all that should be ISK free. It is silly that a vehicle would just be given to someone with no repercussions in the EVE universe.
And if someone brings up noobships, well that is a different game where you need a ship. In Dust drop suits are the IBIS, Impairor, Velator and Reaper. Sniper, Medic, Assault and AV. No need for a free LAV. Boo Hoo Get some AV grenades...free 90 points / LAV Plus an additional 50 for every passenger How about you pay ISK for your LAV instead.
Ummm no lol...I rarely use cars and I also love the fact that they are free. People order them like crazy and I just love blowing them up. It's easy and it's profitable. You should give it a try.
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Jammer Jalapeno
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:24:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:Can ADV/PRO packed/standard AV nades OHK a MLT or poorly fit STD LAV?
Ohh Heck YES!!! I'm rocking the Hacked EXO's bought a few thousand of those mothers. It's the same as the LvL 3 grenades.
2 for a cheepo jeep 3 for a nicer car 3 for a militia tank LOL!!! |
Schalac 17
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:12:00 -
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Esper Shadows wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Duran Lex wrote:The solution to paper : scissors.
You are welcome. When scissors cost ISK and paper is free, paper is OP. BPO militia anti-armor suit can 2-shot BPO militia LAVs easily. Both are free. So, yes you too can use free $hit to blow up free $hit. Death taxis have obvious weaknesses, but instead of spawning with AV to match the LAV you're up against, you come to the forums and whine to CCP for a nerf. Starting to think it might be better if CCP didn't listen to players. Sheesh. Well then let me change fittings on the fly without having to go to a supply depot. Because you can call in an LAV at anytime and recall it at anytime, I should be able to do the same for suits.
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Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:33:00 -
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Esper Shadows wrote:Colonel Killar wrote:Can ADV/PRO packed/standard AV nades OHK a MLT or poorly fit STD LAV?
Easily.
I didn't think I'd be able to look in the game today but I was and you're right heck one Lai-Dai Packed can turn a vehicle unaltered methana or saga into a burning wreck on the side of the road Adv packed and normal Proto AV nades I belive can OHK a militia starter fit too. but still my standard packed AV nades will two hit a starter fit and three hit a standard poorly fit this really tempts me to start investing in AV nades.
I like 90 easy points a LAV 140 with a Gunner.
Tanks need to either be fast moving attack tanks 55mph (1750pg armor, 1650pg shield EHP without Hardeners 2.5k standard) moderately armored tanks with fair HP/PG (2kPG armor 1.9kPG shield, EHP without hardeners 4K) and(or if you want more options and diversity, or) Slow Beasts 25mph max (2.2kPG armor, 2.1kPG shield 5.5k EHP without hardeners)
Here is a better way to show each proposed tank (standard variants only) Light Tank 1main turret 1 gunner Armor Variant 3 low slots 1 high slot ?180 CPU 1750 PG 450 base shields 1800 armor Max speed 45mph
Shield Variant 1 low slots 3 high slot ?210 CPU 1650 PG 1400 base shields 900 armor Max speed 55mph
Medium tanks same turret setup as now
Armor Variant 4 low slots 2 high slot ?200 CPU 2000 PG 650 base shields 3400 armor Max speed 35mph
Shield Variant 2 low slots 4 high slot 230 CPU 1900 PG 3100 base shields 1200 armor Max speed 40mph
Heavy Tanks same turret design as now Armor Variant 5 low slots 2 high slot ?210 CPU 2200 PG 750 base shields 5000 armor Max speed 15mph
Shield Variant 2 low slots 5 high slot 250 CPU 2000 PG 4100 base shields 1700 armor Max speed 20mph
Questions? Comments? I'll be happy to explain anything or go into greater detail
On a side note LAV's need MLT 1k total health no free LAV unless replaces a starter fit STD 1.3k total healthother wise keep the same Logi make acceleration slower and remover high damage resistance but make healing powerful give bonuses to users who are logis 2k total health Scout add a built in nitrous module 1k total health |
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