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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.06 05:18:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Once there are speeder bikes (or w/e CCP calls them) I guarantee there will be no free LAVs.
They said they're coming either next build or the one after that. Until then learn to use AV. I don't think they ever said that. Racial variants of existing vehicles are coming in the next 5-11 months, new vehicle types are coming after 17 months or more. This is the time frame provided at the Advancing The Core presentation of Fanfest. They talked about it during fanfest. The bottom right 2 are the speeders. http://i.imgur.com/4xNAmjj.png
I know, but I'm saying they never said its coming next build, or in the near future at all. They gave a time frame for near future (6 to 12 months) and far future (18 months or more) changes/additions, and new vehicle types (like speeders, jets, MAVs. etc) were in far future.
I said 17 instead of 18 in my original reply because fanfest was over a month ago. |
bacon blaster
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
41
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Posted - 2013.06.06 05:26:00 -
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The free lav is to help people get around. This is really important for heavies. Now, consider the import for when they start giving use bigger maps, which are coming.
Now, I agree that the murder taxi problem needs to be fixed. Rather than destroying the free lav, NERF THE CRAP OUT OF IT. Slow it down and cut it's hp so that it's painfully vulnerable to av nades. Watch it now get used only to truck people around the map, specially heavies.
I've been playing for a while, and even when the mlt lav could get taken out if the driver sneezed too hard, people still used them, just mostly for getting around. Murder taxi still happened in them, but not nearly to this degree, and they died often when it did happen. Leave the other lavs alone, just focus on the mlt ones. |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
Orion Empire
364
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Posted - 2013.06.06 05:28:00 -
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There's really only one option left that will satisfy both drivers and those getting run over: CCP should convert LAV's into indestructible "Happy True-Friend Ubervehicles" (though we'll just use the new acronym) equipped with front and rear inertial dampeners that gently push aside mercs to ensure that no one ever gets hurt. No more lore issues, no murder, no need to pay attention when you hear a truck heading your way, and no need to bother bringing along someone equipped to dispatch vehicles in your squad.
Problem solved.  |
Immortal Solder Alpha
Cyberdyne Systems and Technology
The Universal Accord
5
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Posted - 2013.06.06 05:36:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:XiBravo wrote:Their should be no OHK LAV Vs. Dropsuit either .
The Solution Enemy LAV damage is replaced with the current friendly LAV damage (No damage). Explain your denial of physics.
Because we deny all other physics in this game, why not? |
EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
57
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Posted - 2013.06.06 06:25:00 -
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Noobtards you guys suck at this game if your still butthurt about LAV's...
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Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
254
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:24:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Why no free tanks and dropship starter fits? same reason why no free specialized suits (assaults, logis, sentinels, scouts), or other basic frames in the infantry starter fits. Medium basic frame dropsuit starter fits are only a starting point, just like LAVs are just a starting point. "If you want to use vehicles outside of academy, then buy them" That isn't really logical reasoning, its just your opinion of how things should be. It doesn't explain why things should be that way, or why LAVs shouldn't be free. That BS can just as easily apply to infantry starter fits also, "If you want to use dropsuits and infantry gear outside of academy, then buy them". If starter LAVs shouldn't be free after the academy, neither should infantry fits. I'm done arguing with you now, I'm starting to think you're trolling; seriously, you're the one who's complaining to change the game, yet anyone anyone who doesn't agree with you should STFU? lol. You must be trolling. By the power invested in me by my obscene amount of likes, I judge myself the winner of this argument  This is another post of a free LAV abuser.
Suits are needed in this game. Vehicles are a luxury. If you want that luxury you should have to purchase it with ISK. What are you afraid of? The fact that you will lose the ability to spawn LAV after LAV and get them blown up at no cost to you?
You are done arguing with me because you lost the argument. Your points are weak, you have faulty logic and the only thing you can do is try to twist my words into something that they are not. And it doesn't matter how many likes you got because in this thread I am getting more than you are with your faulty logic. So hurry up and have a legion drones +1 your bad ideas.
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hooc order
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:30:00 -
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The solution is the rename Murder Taxi to Death Cab for Cutie....
Or Van Full of Candy
either one. |
EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:32:00 -
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http://memegenerator.net/instance/38469716
http://memegenerator.net/instance/38469873 |
EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
59
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:35:00 -
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http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/38492159.jpg |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:51:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:No, actually I think mine is the best way to counter it. If you want to use it buy it, if not then STFU.
1st of all u sound like a D bag/head pick your poison.
2nd your idea: raging war on the weakest / easiest to counter LAV. Even if it did cost isk ,it certainly wouldn't be enough to stop the masses from calling them in. Also I like the idea of free lavs and the fact hey are not made of glass. It is the fact that they can roadkill any dropsuit at any speed on 90%of the battlefield. If they remove the impact damage, they are fixed. Plain and simple. Players would need to use the turrets or get out to kill players. Imagine that, a novel idea ain't it? |
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Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
403
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:56:00 -
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No, the solution is an HP nerf to MLT LAVS so they get OHK'd by everything OR to remove mlt lavs completely. Honestly, mlt tanks would be easier to deal with. |
WAITIN 4 420
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:57:00 -
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I don't really care enough to read to whole thread so I dont know if this has been suggested yet,
How about changing the impact damage from a ohk to low impact damage and a constant damage while being pushed by the lav? This would do two things make scouts easier targets then heavys, and give people the remote chance to get away. Also the type of suit you hit should determine an amount of damage to the lav.
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EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.06.06 22:05:00 -
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A car that cant run people over................more like stupid idea |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.06.06 22:08:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:No, the solution is an HP nerf to MLT LAVS so they get OHK'd by everything OR to remove mlt lavs completely. Honestly, mlt tanks would be easier to deal with.
Again, MLT LAVs are the not the problem. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.06.06 22:10:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:A car that cant run people over................more like stupid idea
I'll reply an awesome forum technique I learned here.
"Go play... GTA..." |
EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
59
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Posted - 2013.06.06 22:14:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:A car that cant run people over................more like stupid idea I'll reply an awesome forum technique I learned here. "Go play... GTA..."
why am i the one who has to play a diffrent video game, i think this one is fine just the way it is.
They are the ones not happy with it |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.06.06 22:31:00 -
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http://youtu.be/GuucNO45NsY
You are fine with this^^^ |
Wolfgang Erikson
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.06 22:45:00 -
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First of all, I agree with all those saying to use Swarm Launchers and AV Grenades. That is what they are there for, and hunting down murder-taxis provides lots of easy kills using these. Tanks are also very effective. Personally I don't see a huge problem with this. It seems like once LAV drivers are shot down enough times with AVs or Swarms, they give up (at least for a few minutes)
Second. I would like to suggest a way to reduce the problem somewhat. (Forgive me if this has already been mentioned). Taking a lesson from real-life, a car cannot infinitely run over people without taking damage. Pretty much after 1 hit at high speeds, the car will be totaled. Granted, a truck will fare better, but eventually it too will sustain a certain level of damage.
Running over people could cause damage. Maybe slight damage, maybe medium damage, maybe based on speed of vehicle and size of dropsuit, I don't know. This would have to be balanced in some way to allow some sort of way to keep this in check without making it more dangerous to be in an LAV than on foot.
You could make the argument that LAVs are advanced futuristic vehicles and running over people would be as easy as squashing a bug. I would counter with the fact that these are not squishy pedestrians you are running over, but people wearing full body suits... made of metal. I think eventually that would take it's toll. LAVs are not invincible.
Note: I don't know 100% that running over people doesn't already cause damage, so don't flame me if it does. I would suggest that this damage is increased to a noticeable level (if it does already do some damage), since I have never noticed it. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.06.06 22:51:00 -
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Good lavs repair so fast that taking damage while running over hoards would not be a problem. |
EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
60
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Posted - 2013.06.06 22:59:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:http://youtu.be/GuucNO45NsY You are fine with this^^^
Having fun destroying LAV'S
Hell yeah im fine with that....maybe if the guy with the forge gun knew how to aim hed kill some more.
Learn how to aim use more AV grenades and why are you a heavy is what id tell the guy who was playing....Hes using a weapon ment for tanks on Lavs
He won the round; He never died; He got kills; whats the fckn problem?
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TV Repair Guy
DUST University
Ivy League
10
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Posted - 2013.06.06 23:02:00 -
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Murdercabs are fine, they add some variety to the game that is saturated with mediums/assault rifles. I also get a lot of WP repeatedly blowing up militia LAVs. |
EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.06.06 23:17:00 -
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http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/38469716.jpg |
EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
62
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Posted - 2013.06.07 00:26:00 -
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Anybody like the OP solutions?
Emp Grenades?
Or the revolutionary idea of dodging? |
EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.06.07 01:19:00 -
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http://bit.ly/11vN2LS |
Wolfgang Thor
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:52:00 -
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They could allow dropsuits to activate inertial dampeners all the time with cooldown). Thus allowing protection from LAV when you see it coming, and still allow taxi kills when victim is unprepared or unable to escape before cooldown is ready.
would make sense that dampener could be used this way.
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Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
255
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Posted - 2013.06.07 10:21:00 -
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Wolfgang Thor wrote:They could allow dropsuits to activate inertial dampeners all the time with cooldown). Thus allowing protection from LAV when you see it coming, and still allow taxi kills when victim is unprepared or unable to escape before cooldown is ready.
would make sense that dampener could be used this way.
How would you handle melee attacks while the dampener is on? |
Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
256
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Posted - 2013.06.09 02:03:00 -
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Back into the limelight.
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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
791
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Posted - 2013.06.09 02:10:00 -
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Solution: hitting a player results in equal amounts of hitpoints getting taken away. Aka if you hit and kill a heavy with 800hp, then your LAV is subtracted 800 hitpoints from its own total. Easy. Hit two heavies and your dead. |
Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.09 02:54:00 -
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The solution to paper : scissors.
You are welcome. |
Jaleyn Sadur
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.06.09 03:20:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:XiBravo wrote:Their should be no OHK LAV Vs. Dropsuit either .
The Solution Enemy LAV damage is replaced with the current friendly LAV damage (No damage). Explain your denial of physics. Spark u
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