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Deadeye Dic IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 91	Posted - 2013.06.02 00:56:00 - [1] - Quote Templars everywhere are suiciding, either by biomass, MCC suicide jumps, or suiciding before players can get the kill on them. Several threads complaining about the Templar event, both by Templars and Hunters. It's the Dust equivalent to the EvE Jita event, or so it seems. I can appreciate the purpose of the event, but both sides of this argument have cause for concern. Templars with BPO gear that can't compete in proto matches, entire teams of players out to stomp one or two Templars in a match. Public matches aren't even a fair match, even if the team with Templars win the match, why? Because 16 players are hunting Templars for 2.5 million ISK. Templars are easy kills. I'm not saying that those who signed up didn't know what was coming, as far as the match types were concerned, it was clearly defined and laid out, however CCP failed to properly think this event out. This event should have been Hunters against Templars 200 vs 200 in private matches, with perhaps the side getting the most kills winning the spoils of war. CCP clearly failed to view this event with any seriousness and it is nothing more than a promotional event, as seen in the PS scroll at the top of our Home Screens. Additionally, this event is also just for some backstory that players get to participate in, like the other events. Only, will the results of the event be the backstory or was it determined when Templars were gimped from the start against proto players? Sure some great players might do ok against proto players, but when you start off a new character with having to farm ISK just to train, then I'm afraid the honest truth is that Templars were setup by the masters. Hunters have a valid argument as well when Templars are suiciding or not logging in because they feel gimped. Hunters can't get their part of the event or their 2.5 million ISK. I propose that this event be reconsidered, both with new players and a new system where Hunters and Templars are in a Private event with the same starting attributes and rules put into place or systems put into place that prevent MCC afking, suicides, and disabling Biomass. Additionally, I would recommend that should any Hunter or Templar quit a match more than 5 times over the event or fail to login to the character for more than 24 hours after the start of the event, then that player be disqualified and the DQ count as a death for that team and a win for the other. All that being said Templars, including myself, should feel ashamed for our behavior. Hunters should also be ashamed. Anyone of us have complained about proto-stomps, gear issues, and everything else under the sun, but in this particular case, the poor planning and layout of this event was not clearly thought out by CCP. This is not an issue of Tac ARs or Caldari Logis, this is an issue of a community event, hosted and setup by CCP that clearly doesn't meet the expectations of the community of player who have vested an interests in this event.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 362	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:01:00 - [2] - Quote Biomass LOL. Stay classy Dust.
Baldr Grimm OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 33	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:05:00 - [3] - Quote The lack of any ISK seems like a major oversight.
Templar Renegade217 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:05:00 - [4] - Quote inb4protostomp
Templar Renegade217 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:06:00 - [5] - Quote Baldr Grimm wrote: The lack of any ISK seems like a major oversight. It only took me one match to get militia mods for my non bpo slots
Templar Renegade217 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:09:00 - [6] - Quote Quote: This is not an issue of Tac ARs or Caldari Logis I disagree. The TACS still take out my 1200 HP Sentinel before I can say "kitten me"
Templar Renegade127 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:11:00 - [7] - Quote My k/d is slightly positive and i have great fun doing silly manuevers because, other than doing my best, i don't care. We are walking and shooting easter eggs, designed to be picked up at random by all grades of players. If someone doesn't like to be hunted by protos...well, he shouldn't have applied. Everyone who cared to read the announcement knew what awaits him. It's simply too late for throwing a hissy fit.
Templar Renegade225 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:14:00 - [8] - Quote I was thinking that CCP should have given us a higher SP multiplier. So at the beginning we suck and the lower level players can get their kills in and highers ones too, but by the end of the event we would be able to play against protos. At the very least they should have given us the bonus SP and a bit of isk to start off with would have been nice but im ok without it. I played for several hours this morning and alot of people definitely got their kills in. Ill finish out the event as planned, even beyound the 20 matches and 20k wp. I want people to get their 2.5 million isk but i wont make it easy :).
Declan Dayne The Unsullied. 2	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:16:00 - [9] - Quote If you haven't been playing this game for months you get protostomped anyways. So who cares if they are whining about having militia gear.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 718	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:19:00 - [10] - Quote This is CCP's way of showing a portion of their players how the newbies feel when they leave the academy.

Templar Renegade217 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 14	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:19:00 - [11] - Quote After the 20,000 WP I still plan on being a walking target for peeps. I am going from a Min speed scout into a sentinel fat suite.. So different.
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 705	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:21:00 - [12] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: This is CCP's way of showing a portion of their players how the newbies feel when they leave the academy. But I dont think even CCP knows how the newbies feel when they leave the Academy.
Templar Renegade245 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:21:00 - [13] - Quote Deadeye Dic wrote: Sure some great players might do ok against proto players, Aww that's aweful nice of you to say but I wouldn't call myself "great". Also, holy crap this community is self entitled! are you all just raised spoiled by your parents and can't make your own fun with what you're given or am I the only adult among a bunch of 14 yearolds? Bit of light hearted "event" fun. Treat it like that and move on. Do you complain at carnival rides on your soap box that the Ferris wheel didn't have the best possible view and you demand the ride operators fix this IMMEDIATELY?
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1521	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:23:00 - [14] - Quote gee, who would have ever expected a Dust 514 event to be halfassed? It's such a surprise.
Cass Barr Red Star. EoN. 119	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:26:00 - [15] - Quote Templar Renegade127 wrote: It's simply too late for throwing a hissy fit. You must be new here! Let me be the first to welcome you to the Dust forums, where it's always the right time to throw a hissy fit.
Templar Renegade217 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 14	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:26:00 - [16] - Quote Templar Renegade245 wrote: Deadeye Dic wrote: Sure some great players might do ok against proto players, Aww that's aweful nice of you to say but I wouldn't call myself "great". Also, holy crap this community is self entitled! are you all just raised spoiled by your parents and can't make your own fun with what you're given or am I the only adult among a bunch of 14 yearolds? Bit of light hearted "event" fun. Treat it like that and move on. Do you complain at carnival rides on your soap box that the Ferris wheel didn't have the best possible view and you demand the ride operators fix this IMMEDIATELY? Someone else can see the light too! +1
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 39	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:38:00 - [17] - Quote We finally have proof that the first batch of clones was deeply flawed after all.
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 185	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:40:00 - [18] - Quote meh I have not even seen a Templar today. I really do not care if i ever see one...let alone if they suicide every match.
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 185	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:43:00 - [19] - Quote Templar Renegade217 wrote: Quote: This is not an issue of Tac ARs or Caldari Logis I disagree. The TACS still take out my 1200 HP Sentinel before I can say "kitten me" So your complaint is that your "carry me" 10 million SP/gear build is less OP then you want it do be.... Cry a river scrub.
SuperKing BigNuts Contract Hunters 83	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:44:00 - [20] - Quote Anarchide wrote: We finally have proof that the first batch of clones was deeply flawed after all. they must have quit the game and waited for CCP to fix things...

Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1668	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:45:00 - [21] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: This is CCP's way of showing a portion of their players how the newbies feel when they leave the academy. lol at people complaining cause they finally know what it's liked to get protostomped.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 217	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:46:00 - [22] - Quote I haven't event participated because my weapon was ninja nerfed along with being bugged and I'm still waiting on my respec. I've found replaying Borderlands 1 more fun because it ****ing works. And guess what? It's the same engine as Dust 514.
SuperKing BigNuts Contract Hunters 83	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:50:00 - [23] - Quote Cosgar's Alt wrote: I haven't event participated because my weapon was ninja nerfed along with being bugged and I'm still waiting on my respec. I've found replaying Borderlands 1 more fun because it ****ing works. And guess what? It's the same engine as Dust 514. dark souls here, but yes... afk farmed my weekly skill cap and im out like a fat kid in dodgeball, trolling the forums or something more fun than getting stomped because i screwed up with my SP allocation at the start of this new build...
Templar Renegade219 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.06.02 02:36:00 - [24] - Quote I'm an idiot specing into scrambler rifles. can't even fit the proto on the suits they gave me. Going to try out dual advanced scrambler pistol for the lols.
Templar Renegade217 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2013.06.02 04:00:00 - [25] - Quote hooc order wrote: Templar Renegade217 wrote: Quote: This is not an issue of Tac ARs or Caldari Logis I disagree. The TACS still take out my 1200 HP Sentinel before I can say "kitten me" So your complaint is that your "carry me" 10 million SP/gear build is less OP then you want it do be.... Cry a river scrub. LoL I was being playful about it not crying. I have actually enjoyed the event so far. Sounds like someone has a sore bum.. Let me guess you are one of those SKILLED L33T TAC users. Sorry I made ya cry sweety. /hug
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 185	Posted - 2013.06.02 04:04:00 - [26] - Quote Quote: Let me guess you are one of those SKILLED L33T TAC users. You guessed wrong.
Akurabis Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.06.02 04:06:00 - [27] - Quote 2.5 million isk isn't even enough to make me think about them. \what kind of a reward is that? and ya - why couldn't we all have the option to sign in to a 3 day character to try out some cool sets of gear in contained academy style matches?
Templar Renegade217 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2013.06.02 04:11:00 - [28] - Quote hooc order wrote: Quote: Let me guess you are one of those SKILLED L33T TAC users. You guessed wrong. You're a nub TAC user? So why does your bum hurt? Maybe because you didn't get picked? I edited my previous post to collect more tears from ya, thanks for reading!
True Adamance Ametat Security Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.06.02 04:12:00 - [29] - Quote I'm just disappointed now that CCP didn't forseer the douchebaggery only a select few people can bring... so other people who are fans of the Amarr or who wanted to get in on this event got shut out. Would have been much better to host multiple 300 Templar events for each region.
D legendary hero One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 57	Posted - 2013.06.02 04:19:00 - [30] - Quote Baldr Grimm wrote: The lack of any ISK seems like a major oversight. if i recall, templars only get basic standard gear, and weapons. and only 500,000 sp. 0isk. that makes no sense. i mean you'd think that the original clones that went renegade to earn cash, would have tons of cash, weapons, and SP as they were the first. they should have chosen more templars, and made them harder to kill. given them proto gear, and proto weapons (expect proto ARs) basically they should have had access to all proto weapons (except proto ARs because we have just seen enough of them). there should have been at least 1,000 chosen. there are 1000s of players on dust you need a decent number. the final point is that yes they would be OP, but that is the point to the 2.5 million isk reward, and have entire teams come after you. finally, they dnt keep the accounts, and the event is only a few days. (again I know this sounds really OP a dude with blue print proto armor, dropsuits, mods, weapons [except the ARs], and 10 million spare SP to be speced into whatever they want [except ARs] IS OP. but when your the only templar on a team, and the entire enemy team is coming after just you, and they are all running proto gear [which has happened], you need to be able to fight back. plus it tells that story well, because they were the original clones you'd think they'd be very skilled therefore havng tons of sp)



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