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Nova Fortis
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:11:00 -
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This is my first shooter (unless Tomb Raider sort of counts?) so I'm pretty bad. I had a .06 KDR which doubled after lots of practice at the Academy. I know it's really low, but I was feeling proud of it, considering it's my first and all. I bought my logi suit, upgraded my shields, and started to feel like I was really improving. Then came "graduation."
Honestly I'm doing better than expected, but it's nothing like Academy battles! I'm barely able to whip out the repair tool before I'm sniped from what seems like out of nowhere. I know I've got to work on checking my surroundings, self-preservation first, etc. Does anyone have any tips? Any help is much appreciated.  |
Tyrn'gog
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
42
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:16:00 -
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Well done and keep on it!
Some tips:
Keep moving. Always.
Stay with your squad - never go alone - and especially never run across wide open areas if you can help it
Keep optimistic - even in the worst matches you are still gaining SP
Have suits available for all situations - militia suits are key at this point
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Taurion Bruni
Nightingale Logistics Pty Ltd
24
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:53:00 -
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Staying in a squad is key, squads that communicate are even better. If you need a squad Join the channel LFSquad. you can find many good players there. |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
252
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Posted - 2013.05.31 05:24:00 -
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Great tips guys. Let me add something else that's a factor for this game.
In EVE, there is a saying: "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose." Basically, in EVE, since it's a sandbox game, anything can happen and losing a ship can be devestating to a new player not accustomed to the destruction of a ship, modules, ammo, etc when you are blown up.
In Dust, it's very similar. "Don't drop what you can't afford to lose." In other words, be mindful of the market. Sure, better gear means better survivability/ability to kill/ability to better equip your team but if you are dying on the battlefield, that is ISK that is lost.
Many FPS vets have learned this the hard way, believing that running the best gear would yield the best results. However, when they died, they would be set back a lot of ISK and have to start all over (if their main goal was earning lots of ISK).
Monitor your progress each battle. Were you successful in taking down enemies? Did you supply your team effectively? Now ask, was it economically viable?
Basic level modules may lower the CPU and PG but don't be afraid to fit militia modules on your fit. If you see that you die a lot, fit something that best suits your play style (do you more more attack? More defense? More speed?) and then keep it cheap. You can't buy items if you are broke.
Dying is inevitable in New Eden. On the ground, it's a given. Learn to figure out when is a good time to bring expensive fits to the field and don't feel inferior just because your running free or militia items. |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries
161
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:34:00 -
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whilst dont use what you cant afford kinda makes sense you are still playing an RPG. Therefore, you need to get out of basic gear to compete otherwise you will find the game frustrating. (unless you really cant make money this way, but to be honest the game rewards logis more than any other playstyle so you should be fine)
Even if you are going logi, I would still recommend you dont forget about the shooting part. A good logi can help surpress/ kill the enemy while supporting the team. Find what weapon works for you assault/ tac/ mass driver and practice, |
Somin Krais
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
55
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:09:00 -
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Cover is your friend. Even if you are supporting your team, are following your squad, you are still a target. If you are standing in the open running a repair tool, you have a big bright shiny line pointing to a free kill (YOU). You can still run your repper from behind cover.
As many people have mentioned, using militia gear is a perfectly fine thing to do. Plenty of veterans in Proto (prototype level) suits have been taken down by militia guns. Likewise, plenty have been saved by new logis with militia reppers and entry level needles (nanite injectors). I would recommend just putting on some militia gear until you get a good amount of SP and ISK. By then, you'll have a better idea of what you enjoy, how to play that role, and how to survive on the field. |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
Gentlemen's Agreement
3
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:10:00 -
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As this everyone has mentioned your best friend is your squad right now. Really think about joining a Corporation. You'll find the same guys to squad with and you'll learn how they fight and what your role is.
Stick close to others and try to avoid one v ones. I know this one is tough, but distance yourself from or even forget about your KDR. It'll only lead to frustration if you focus on it.
If you're a medic Logi you'll be appreciated no matter your level. Plus if you are really good at laying traps might I suggest Remote Explosives? Even at STD lvl they will 1 shot a PRO, just takes a little brains and time. People are overly aggressive when they see Militia as everyone thinks they are EASY kills. Use this to your advantage. |
Telleth
DUST University
Ivy League
24
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Posted - 2013.06.03 22:07:00 -
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Taurion Bruni wrote:Staying in a squad is key, squads that communicate are even better. If you need a squad Join the channel LFSquad. you can find many good players there.
Ditto, the emphasis on squadding and teamwork are the major differences between DUST and other FPS. Joining a corp is also handy for regular squad mates and figuring out where you want to go in DUST |
Naedeus
DUST University
Ivy League
50
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Posted - 2013.06.04 07:55:00 -
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Nova Fortis wrote: I'm barely able to whip out the repair tool before I'm sniped from what seems like out of nowhere.
Snipers tend to be nasty business on the battlefield. Don't move in a straight line and change your path as much as possible. Zig-Zagging works against most snipers. If you don't drop immediately when you're hit by the first sniper round, it's probably best to be mindful of where the shot hit you from and move out of their line of sight ASAP. Keep in mind most patient snipers will wait for you to come out of cover if it's the only hiding place you have near you.
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
95
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:51:00 -
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If you are willing to ignore your KDR then put on the starter assault suit or sniper suit and go round the outside of the map. Find where the snipers like to set up and use your sniper rifle to see what they see. Do this enough and you will start to learn where the best places for cover from snipers is.
You will also start to instinctively start looking for sniper nests before you move out.
Explore the map in general and if you are squading with vets and have a mic then chat about the best routes and locations to avoid. |
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FALLON Jace
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:23:00 -
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KDR isn't as important as helping the team. If you never make a single kill but repeatedly capture supply depots and NULL cannons, you'll be infinitely more valuable. Except on a straight-up deathmatch, killing enemies and blowing up vehicles is merely the means to make capturing objectives easier. Making 200 kills in Domination can make it easier to win, but it doesn't win it for you. A lot of people in multiplayer games forget about the teamwork aspect and selfishly focus on their own personal bragging rights. It's worse in Dust when the course of a battle can actually affect other people and future battles. |
Angelic Purity
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.06.05 01:27:00 -
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FALLON Jace wrote:KDR isn't as important as helping the team. If you never make a single kill but repeatedly capture supply depots and NULL cannons, you'll be infinitely more valuable. Except on a straight-up deathmatch, killing enemies and blowing up vehicles is merely the means to make capturing objectives easier. Making 200 kills in Domination can make it easier to win, but it doesn't win it for you. A lot of people in multiplayer games forget about the teamwork aspect and selfishly focus on their own personal bragging rights. It's worse in Dust when the course of a battle can actually affect other people and future battles.
Likewise, even in a pure deathmatch type Ambush game, if you're running a Logistic suit and keep reviving people, dropping uplinks, dropping nanohives and repairing armor, even if you don't get a kill, you can still contributing a lot to the battle. |
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